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[Closed] Tubeless - where am i going wrong?

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I have a tubeless setup on one bike (cheapy Chinese carbon rims) and they pumped up with a track pump with minimal hassle.

I've now got a new set of wheels for my DH bike, namely industry nine gravity, which come all ready with rim strips etc. I'm using Minion DHFs, which I know aren't tubeless ready, but I've heard that they do work ok tubeless.

What I'm finding is I've fitted the minion to the rim, but the tyre beads are just remaining in the centre of the rim, rather than popping out into the channel. Does anyone know where I'm going wrong? Do they need a compressor to force the beads to move outwards?


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 2:17 pm
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Not using enough soapy water?


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 2:19 pm
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Soapy water will help beads slid einto place, but yeah, sometimes for big beefy sidewalls like that a compressor helps a lot

Seating the tyre with a tube first, then remove tube leaving one side seated helps too.

Or just go grab the compressor to save hassle


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 2:20 pm
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Thanks guys. I thought the soapy water was to just get the tyre on the rim, not to help the tyre inflate once on the rim. Maybe that's where im going wrong - I didn't use any soapy water at all as the tyre went on really easily!

Maybe I'll go and remove it and put some soapy water on, then try again. If all else fails there is the compressor. Thanks again


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 2:32 pm
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New tyre? I find leaving it with a tube in overnight usually helps.


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 3:05 pm
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Are you sure the rim strips are tubeless ready?


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 3:15 pm
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I find that lots of times it's pretty hit and miss with the track pump so I got a cheap co2 tool for about 5 quid off eBay and 12 canisters for 10. Just use one to inflate each tyre. No soapy water and no getting covered in tubeless solution. I reckon it's worth 1.50 a wheel and you can top up solution as you need it and regulate pressure with the track pump.

The co2 tool is a useful thing to have in your back pack too.


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 4:30 pm
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I find that heating the tyre gently, with something like a hairdryer, normally helps. Once the tyre warms up it becomes more supple and almost seems to expand to fit the rim.


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 5:54 pm
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Pull both sides of the tyre out of the well by hand , you will usually be able to get it up with a track pump after doing that .


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 8:42 pm
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Thanks for tips, will try manually pulling the beads outwards by hand.

It's a used tyre, not sure if that makes any difference.

I assume that they're tubeless strips, I would have thought that all rim strips are for tubeless tyres


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 10:54 pm
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Used is usually looser so harder to initially inflate.

Use tyre levers to lever the beads up out of the centre of the rim and tighten up any spaces for air to escape.


 
Posted : 21/02/2015 10:59 pm
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Take the valve core out and put up using a compressor. this way always works for me.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 8:33 am
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I would have thought that all rim strips are for tubeless tyres
Even the ones designed to stop the inner tube from puncturing on the spoke holes?


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 8:54 am
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I've found the only sure fire way to sort this. Put another wrap of rim tape round. The handy roll size Gorilla Tape is perfect. I now use 2 wraps of it on my wheels for this purpose.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 8:58 am
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Valve core out as above helps a lot.


 
Posted : 22/02/2015 9:04 am