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Thanks to everyone who gave half-frame bag advice.
I ended up with an Alpamayo one.
http://www.alpamayodesigns.com/index.php/products/frame-bags/partial-frame-bag.html
The size #2 fits perfectly into a 54cm v1 Tripster frame.
I had to use a mount skidmore bottle cage adapter to drop the height of the rear bottle so a 750mm bottle would still fit.
Hey guys I'm moving from an XL genesis Equilibrium to a Tripster looking at size charts I'm a 60. Looking at geometry it says I need a 63 I can't believe that as I've always only ever had 58 frames. Any advice would be greatly received.
Would anyone with a 54cm Tripster V2 be interested in a frame swap for a 55.5cm V2? I'm 177cm with 83cm inseam and the frame is just a bit too big for me. Shame, because it builds into a great bike. Email is in my profile if anyone wants more details. Cheers.
Thought you'd all like this: [url= http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/singletrack-forum-informs-design-of-new-kinesis-tripster-at/ ]New Tripster AT[/url]
@stwhannah - I've been waving that flag for a month.. nobody cares..boo hoo. Woe is me
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/kinesis-tripster-at-alu#post-8505251
nobody cares
True, but only we because we have titanium versions already 🙂
Just been reading about it - looks like a great bike, especially Di2 ready. List price for the full bike raised a chuckle though, looking back to the beginning of this thread the V1 tripster was going for around the same price.
A lucky few of us were able to fondle the new Tripster at a very emotional showing of 'Inspired to Ride' at Stan's Bike Shack on the Downs Link last night.
A great evening and an interesting bike, some lovely details, not least the nod to Mike Hall on the rear dropout.
The yellow is BRIGHT.
If this thread has - in Hannah's words - "been closely followed by the people developing the new iterations of Kinesis Tripsters", can I make a plea to Kinesis that they review and revise the sizing charts, which appear to be fundamentally the same for the two frames.
I appreciate the sizing charts are only suggestions, and that people of the same height may need or prefer different frame sizes depending upon their other body dimensions, flexibility, riding style and preferred position etc., but based on the various comments on this thread (not just my own experience) it looks to me as if the height/frame size suggestions are wrong. For example just on this page alone there is mikefella's post wanting to swap for a smaller size and timeoutformike asking for advice because the suggested frame size is much larger than he has had before.
Given that many people are unable to test ride a bike before ordering a Tripster, they are going to tend to rely on the sizing chart, so it's especially important that Kinesis get the chart 'right' (by which I mean it should give the right size for 95+% of customers, which currently I don't think it does).
Looking back at many of early pages on this thread, there were a number of people who bought 54cm frames, despite supposedly being too tall based on the sizing chart, e.g. 5'10" or 5'11" or even 6' in one case. I'm 5'10" and bought a 57cm based on the chart, and although I am in the middle of the suggested height range, it is simply the wrong size, which was confirmed when I bought a 54cm.
I've posted on this thread a number of times in response to people asking about sizing, because I don't want them to make a similar expensive mistake as me, but really Kinesis need to address this and revise the chart. For the 54cm-57cm frames, I suspect that the height ranges need to be revised upwards by around 5cm.
Does anyone here run an Apidura (half) frame bag on a 54cm Tripster v1 or v2? Looking for real-life confirmation that a Medium is the right fit (am aware of the sizing charts). Thanks.
@ Vortexracing - what rack is that?
I fully agree @slowster on the sizing recommendations being (still) wrong.
I'm 5'11 (180cm), typically medium everything and very comfortable on 54cm road/cross bikes. When I bought my V1 ATR Kinesis said I should go for a 57, as I was at the very top of the range for a 55.5. This seemed suspect to me so I went with the 55.5... I eventually got comfortable on it but I think a 54 would have been much better for me.
It seems to me, that the issue with sizing charts is that a person's height is in no way an indicator of the frame size that they'll need.
In my case, despite being 6ft tall, I have a 29in inside leg and correspondingly long torso/arms, so can quite happily ride a larger bike than another 6ft person who has long legs and short torso/arms.
The size charts can only ever be used as a starting point, and must be followed up by sitting on some different size bikes.
In the case of a frameset purchase, sitting on one is not an option, so the process becomes more difficult.
When I bought my Kinesis Racelight frameset, the sizing charts had me undecided between 54 & 55.5 and a lot of hand-wringing ensued before I finally took a punt on the 55.5 and, luckily, it's perfect.
Other than stockists keeping built up bikes of each size, or having some kind of adjust "bike fit" rig, I'm not sure what the answer is.
Its a tubus ti Airy
Quick update on mine - one of the earliest of the V1s that's now almost 4 years / just over 11,000 miles old. Not long home from a four day B&B tour from Bristol back up to Cheshire, vaguely following the River Severn for a lot of it on Sustrans routes. Short first day having taken the train down south, then two 60-70 mile days and a short day today.
The two middle days were great - plenty of mixed surfaces to the point that I reckon over 50% of yesterday's route was off road. Route 45 from west of Kidderminester, up through Wyre Forest, Arley, Severn Valley Country Park, Bridgnorth and onto Coalport was really good fun.
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[/img] [i]Gravel tracks in a deserted Wyre Forest[/i]
The Tripster's now set up with Ultegra 6800 hydraulic groupset (with the much maligned cheaper shifters, that are actually comfier than they look!), Mavic Ksyrium Pro Disc Allroad wheels (spendy, but highly recommended) and for this sort of trip, I get the Specialized Trigger Pro 38mm tubeless tyres out. Bags are a motley bunch - Alpkit Koala, Blackburn Outpost that amost fills the frame and a Topeak bar bag. The Blackburn takes a 1.5 litre Camelbak bladder with the hose fed forward and hooked to the bar bag.
It was great fun to get away again and the Tripster continues to put a smile on my face - never known a bike like it.
4300 miles across the USA in 23 days on a Tripster V2 and not a single ache, this bike is indeed lush. 6 months of use and over 9000 miles on and off road, beach racing and gravel racing it's had a battering and taken it all.
For balance: I am not overly keen on the internal cable routing and the QR rear dropouts are best avoided go 16mm
I've just taken a look at the Kinesis website (prompted by the other thread asking for advice about the sizing of the Kinesis Crosslight Pro 6), and I see that Kinesis has revised its suggested frame sizes for the Tripster ATR. For the record in case any future prospective Tripster purchasers read this thread and wonder what the changes were, the old and new sizing suggestions are as follows:
48cm - was 150-160, now 154-164
51cm - was 158-168, now 164-172
54cm - was 166-176, now 172-178
55.5cm - was 170-180, now 178-182
57cm - was 174-184, now 182-186
60cm - was 182-192, now 186-192
63cm - not listed on the older size charts that I can find , now 192-202
There is no longer any overlap between the suggested heights for consecutive frame sizes. However these are only suggestions, and there is no substitute for getting a test ride if at all possible and/or comparing the geometry with your existing bike and determining what size frame would best give a similar fit to your current bike (e.g. saddle to bar drop and reach), assuming of course that you are happy with the set up of your existing bike.
Anyone running 650 wheels with 2" tyres on their tripster?
Thinking about building my new build as more of a replacement for my hardtail.
Also keen to hear experiences of running 650b (I have a v.1) after 2 and a half years of ownership I think I've finally hit a set up sweet spot for multi surface riding, but open to 650. Running an ultegra CX chainset with 46/34 and 11-32 on the back. Ritchey Venturemax bars and Surly Knard 41c tyres. Really comfy off road, enough gears to get up steep off road bits and pretty quick on tarmac. Took a day off work and did 40 mixed surface miles yesterday- great fun.
^^^
I am... Just heading out, but will write up my experiences!
DrP
^^^
I am... Just heading out, but will write up my experiences!
DrP
I have a spare set of Chris King ISO mtb Hubs. Can anyone tell me if these will fit my v1 Tripster?
Heading off on my Tripster ATR V2 and we're also taking a new Tripster AT to ride as much gravel as we find through Kazakhstan, China, Mongolia and Russia.
Thought Marion's Tripster AT build for the trip might interest a few of you and blur the lines further between MTB/CX/Gravel etc....
[url= http://welovemountains.net/kinesis-tripster-at-the-build-and-first-ride/ ]Tripster AT Flat Bar build[/url]
Good luck ed, sounds like an amazing trip and i look forward to updates as you head east. Has marion ever tried a set of jones bars?, they worked perfectly on my tripster and allow for numerous hand positions.
Good stuff that - the AT looks really nice.
Thanks, and @somafunk good shout on the Jones bars they would have been a good choice in hindsight to try! Chatted to Lee Craigie about hers a while ago and was sold on trying them.
Hello all
I am on the verge of purchasing a tripster atr v2 frameset.
however i am not a fan of there forks and would like to mate it with a fork with more mounting points for bottle cages racks egt.
i have contacted kinesis but i was fobbed off by a sales rep who was only interested in selling me kinesis forks and politely told me to seek advice elsewhere.
unfortunately i do not fully understand the internal parts for compatibility of forks with this frame and i was wondering if anyone could kindly tell me if any of these forks are compatible?
my list of forks are these..
1 Gravel RDO Thru Axle Fork
Disc Only
No rider weight limit
Full carbon 1.125" X 1.5" tapered steer tube
Fits rotors up to 180mm
15mm thru axle
Rack mid mounts and fender mounts
Axle to crown - 400mm
Rake - 45mm
Max tire size 1.75/45mm
http://www.ninerbikes.com/rdogravelfork?sc=34&category=594328
2. Sparta All Road Carbon Fork
Length: 400mm axle to crown
Rake: 45mm
Width: 100mm
Steerer: 1 1/8" straight alloy or 1 1/8 tapered
Fender Mounts
Water Bottle/Frame Bag Mounts (compatible with Blackburn Outpost Cargo Cage)
Brake Mount: Flat mount
Axle: 12mm thru axle (axle included)
https://www.fyxation.com/products/carbon-fiber-adventure-fork
Both forks seem to have the correct rake of 45mm, and axle to crown length of 400mm wich match the forks sold by kinesis.
the only thing im unsure if the compatibility to the headtube/headset of the tripsters fame any advice would be appreciated.
So I'm thinking about getting the alu version as my budget doesn't stretch this just yet.
I'm 192cm which puts in the realms of 60/63cm. ANy suggestions on what to go for? The only thing I have to compare it to is a Canyon Endurance AL. The reach on my XL is 407 which leaves me looking at either a 1.5cm shorter reach on the 60cm or 1cm on the 63cm. I think the 60cm will work but has anyone purchased a 60cm and wished they went with a 63cm at all?
Thanks.
I would be wary of focusing on just one measurement, such as reach. The Canyon has a 73.5 degree seat angle, but the 60cm Tripster is 73 and the 63cm is 72.5.
Based on my own experience, I would also look closely at your current saddle to bars drop and how that might translate to a Tripster, given its head tube length, stack, bottom bracket height, and given the limits of adjustability of stems on carbon steerers, i.e. no more than 30mm of spacers.
In my case, I had to fit a 17 degree rise stem upside down (so it is virtually horizontal) to get the bars at the right height. That suggests to me that I could probably get away with the next size smaller Tripster with the standard 5 degree rise stem, even though I am 4cm taller than the maximum suggested height for that smaller frame size (and that's based on Kinesis' new [i]higher[/i] suggested heights for the Tripster frame sizes).
[img] https://flic.kr/p/XUXcXs [/img]
[url= https://flic.kr/p/XUXcXs ]pic[/url]
Thought id share a pic of my new build atr v2. Now to give it a test
Are you unable to bend from the hips?
Mmm it seems your Sarcasm has been lost on this occasion. Care to explain?
I've a Tripster ATR V1, any recommendations for a rear carrier, was looking at the Tortec Epic (probably in Stainless) or the Tubus Cargo/Cargo Evo or Logo/Logo Evo. Are the Tubus worth the extra? Has anyone fitted one of these to a ATR?
What are you actually paying the extra for? I had the Axiom Streamliner Disc on my Tripster - it's a third of the price and only 15g heavier. I'm genuinely puzzled by the price of those Tubus ones!
I have a tubus ti Airy on mine
it matches the frame 😉What are you actually paying the extra for?
That, I can understand (almost) 🙂
I decided to go for the Tortec Epic in stainless steel. It won’t be a permanent fitting on the bike, just as and when I need to carry a load (have a clunky hybrid for day to day stuff, also fitted with a Tortec rack).
Has anyone fitted PDW guards to the new carbon tripster ATR straight fork?
There doesn't seem to be enough clearance on the drive side to connect the safety tab to the fork...the threading for the thru axle protrudes slightly. Unless I'm doing something spectacularly wrong...
It looks like the PDW tabs have quite a bit more material between the bolt hole and the end of the tab, whereas a SKS Secuclip, for example, has only about 2mm of material.
One possible solution might be to place a plastic spacer, [url= http://litebolt.com/Nylon-Plastic-Spacers-standoff-washers ]like these[/url], between the eyelet and the tab. Those spacers are also useful if you need to move the tab away from the eyelet to avoid the disc brake caliper fouling the mudguard stay.
great idea, cheers
I Have a Tubus Airy Ti rack on mine, I couldnt bring myself to put anything but a Ti Rack on a Ti Frame......
But I`m a tart like that 😀
The Tortec Epic Stainless steel rack was a big disappointment, very poorly finished, sent it back
I know it was asked on the previous page, but I'm also interested to hear thoughts on running 650b wheels on the Tripster. My v1 is quite happy on it's 700c hoops, but I'd be keen to know of alternatives and how they fit / perform etc.
cheers.
This continues to be the go to source for all things Tripster ATR, so I'll ask here. I'm just starting to build up an ATR V2 and I'm still not sure on sizing. I've bought a 54cm and still have anxiety about whether I've bought the correct size. I'm a dyed in the wool roadie but have been riding some gravel lately (hardpack, firetrail, non technical stuff). I've also been doing some touring and wanted this to be more capable off road than my current gravel/touring/bikepacking bike (54cm van Nicholas Yukon(2012)). At 173cm (5'8"), inseam 79cm (31"), and an ape index of +7cm (3"), have I got the size right? I know I won't have all that much post showing (making saddlebag placement more tricky) and the front end will be significantly higher than my Yukon, but the thought of losing frame bag size inside the front triangle and having spacers and a longer stem, steered me to the 54cm. Using various online comparators and frame geometry calculators it seems that by going with a 90mm slammed stem I should have 1" less effective reach and 1" more effective stack which actually sounds great. Does anyone of my proportions have experience with this size?
johnpeopleman, you are close to the bottom of Kinesis' (new) suggested height for a 54cm, and I suspect you probably could get a 51cm to fit you. As to which is likely to be the better fit, I think that really depends on the rider, their own personal preferences, and the use/style of riding. I think if you were looking for a bike to match an aggressive road racing set up on the road, then smaller might be better, but for touring/bikepacking etc. I suspect the 54cm may be the better bet.
the front end will be significantly higher than my Yukon
In my case, despite being at the top of the new suggested heights for my V1 54cm frame, I found that the bars with supplied stem were still significantly higher than my other bikes. I ended up switching to a 17 degree stem ([url= https://www.sigmasport.co.uk/item/Bontrager/Elite-17-Degree-Stem/CXLU ]Bontrager Elite 17 degree[/url]) flipped over (so it is virtually horizontal) to get the bars at the height I wanted. So that might be an option for you, if after building it up and riding it for a while you do find that the front end is too high on the 54cm. I used [url= http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php ]this website[/url] to work out what the effect would be of different stem lengths, rises and amount of spacers, in order to determine which stem to buy.
If you ride mostly on the hoods, changing the position of the levers on the bars can also have a significant impact on the effective height of the front end as it were, so you could just use electrical tape to secure the cables to the bars to begin with, and experiment with moving the levers before taping the bars
I'm not really wanting it to bomb single track but rather, as you say, a bikepacking and touring rig. I think I'll be happy with the 54cm. I've always used 110mm -6deg stems but the geometry on the front end being so slack looks like a 90mm would be a better option. I've got a 6deg and 17deg on order and I'll see which one I'm happy with.