Pinnacle Arkose Three (jameso to the forum please)

There's a very good review here, btw:
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Arkose 3 review.[/url]

I really like the Pinnacle - seems excellent vfm.

The Genesis Croix De Fer has been updated for next year with the rear brake in the right place at last, and the new Surly Straggler looks nice, apart from the disc placement:
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Great colour. 🙂

Don't forget the Disc Trucker too - think you'd be looking at the 26 inch version and they're not the lightest bikes.

Ignore the Evans site, sorry, some glitch there. The pinnacle site is correct, but CS is 425mm not 440mm. Must improve the sheet that creates that.. deffo an off road fun bike, wouldn't have it any other way. Group test win in cycling plus a while back, pm me if you want a copy mailed over.

I have one and its fine, I do have an issue with the headset working loose that I need to get Evans to look at but as for the ride etc its all good. I know a headset working loose is not a great advert but its probably a one off that they will sort out when I get around to getting there.

I worked on the premise that its a great spec for the money and doing a frame swap if I fancied something more glamorous and funds allowed would be easy enough but can't fault it.

What sort of rides do you use it for, Pingu?

Thanks for the reply, James. Sent you an email.

I've got one.
I did a 47 mile off/on road ride on it last week, probably 75% off road (bridleways, towpaths etc).
I'm old, fat and unfit, so you'll be fine.

I have one in small and I'm 5'5".

Although its the only CX bike I've ever ridden it seems great. I've used it for everything from off road epics (great glen way in a day) to scouting the local area for new trails to 100 mile plus road rides. Bike has always been fine so far and pretty comfortable.

I'd definitely recommend one.

I have had one for a year now, great bike. It works surprisingly well on a lot of XC stuff I ride normally on a hardtail and I find it great on the road too (with road tyres). Also sees use with a rack/kiddies seat.

Mine did suffer from stem slippage on the carbon steerer tube. After a good bit of roughing up it hasnt moved.

Mine did suffer from stem slippage on the carbon steerer tube. After a good bit of roughing up it hasnt moved.

I do have an issue with the headset working loose that I need to get Evans to look at but as for the ride etc its all good

Any word on this, jameso?

Thanks for all the replies, people. Choice is between this and an XLS, so far. All extra info is very helpful in making a decision.

I had a look at one at the weekend. Not bad at all but oh so dull. yet another of their range is a lovely bright orange.

I'm looking at similar kit. How about the new Giant TCX SLR2?
Tall, the Whyte Saxon cross is better speced but only 56cm or above TT's.T the same price there are Ridley X Bow discs or Merida's but they are not pretty. Then again some people like dull bikes.

Then again some people like dull bikes.

There is dull, and then there is understated.

Jamie the stem thing wasn't really an issue. It was being used over particularly rough ground (I'm not a great line choice rider!) and I didnt want to go too tight with the steerer bolts on the carbon steerer. Bit of coarse sand paper gave the stem a good key to grip. Also loves gravel paths and just keep changing up the gears and it keeps acclerating.

Any word on this, jameso?

Hmm might ruff up the steerer but mine is worse after I have ridden over rough ground.

As soon as I tried it it felt nice so I took it and although it may look dull/understated its a pretty good bike. With the 35mm tyres its tracks and towpaths, currently got 28s on it and ride it on the road. Not as fast as a road bike I guess, it maybe my lardy arse as well but can ride all day on it.

I think sv has it, often neither stem bung or stems are done up very tight on carbon steerers from caution

Would one of these be the ticket to getting things nicely, and safely, tight?

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ritchey-torque-key-with-interchangeable-bits/

...assuming the stem is 5nM.

I'm looking at similar kit. How about the new Giant TCX SLR2?

Not out till the end of the month, and while it has a very good spec, I'm not sure about the 15mm wheels. Would mean keeping stock, as my Kinesis CDx wouldn't be compatible.

....it does look nice with the internal cable routing, though.

The frames are half price at Evans....

This is on my shopping list now 🙂

Anyone else got one ? Opinions ? Thanks

I've got one. It's a more than capable bike. I've used it for commuting and big days out in the Pennines. I've not encountered any problems in the eight months or so I have had it.

And does anyone know how it's changed for 2014?

And does anyone know how it's changed for 2014?

Rusty - the one linked in the other thread is 2014 on Evans site and stock due Nov

Got one back in April - awesome bike, love it to bits. Spoilt somewhat by the mudguards and pannier rack that live on it, but it wasn't bought to be raced.

Commutes just fine on the Small Block 8 tyres - bit draggy on road climbs but not too bad, and I've put fat slicks on occasionally for wet weather road rides. Very competent on towpath surfaces which is most of my commute.

More comfortable to ride than I expected tbh. Think the longest ride I've done on it was 65 miles - maybe 1/3 of that was off road on the High Peak and Tissington trails. The 30 tooth cog at the back came in useful riding from the ford up to Tissington village.....

Being finicky I'd have preferred a slightly wider set of bars, I just never use the crosstop brakes, and they'll be going as soon as I can be bothered to put some more comfy bar tape on, but I've lasted this long in stock set up so it clearly isn't a huge issue for me.

Size wise, I'm 5'9" and a little bit, and got a Medium 52cm frame, which fits fine - the sticker on the frame does show it as being intended for people up to 5'9". If you are near Nottingham /Derby and want to try one for size my email is in my profile, but the staff in the Nottingham Evans were pretty good at sizing me up, if you can get into one of their stores (I know they vary!) they will get one in for you to try.

Edit:Think the cheap frames are non-disc version?

And does anyone know how it's changed for 2014?

2014 bike is not that different, gets BB7 SLs for the same RRP.

...that's from Mr Olsen when I asked the same thing.

Thanks folks.

Sorry for the thread resurrection but I'm just thinking of getting a CX bike for around £1000 and this is on the list. Any updates or fresh reviews would be appreciated. The Arkose 2 looks great in green but I'm not sure about bar end shifters.

The others on my list are a Cannondale CAADX, Boardman or Planet X. My basic requirements are for an on/off road commuter bike and something to fill the gap between mountain and road bikes. Ideally I want disc brakes and 105 gears/shifters. Mudguards would be good and I don't want it to weigh as much as a car.

I went for a Croix De Fer and could reco...

....and I don't want it to weigh as much as a car.

Ah...ok, as you were.

I've got one!
When I first received it, there were issues with the setup- gears not indexed properly and cables not routed correctly, there were also scratches on the rims and handlebars. Evans didn't offer me anything apart from getting the gears and cable routing sorted.

Anyway, the bike itself is fantastic. I've never had a CX bike but I've had a race HT and various road bikes. I would say that it's a brilliant road bike- little draggy with the stock tyres but great clearance for guards, plus lots of rack options. Feels much better than my winter road bike (which it replaced). Happily done 50+ miles in a day.

Discs took a while to bed in but are lovely in winter- quieter than rim brakes and more consistent/reliable. Full carbon fork feels very stiff compared to others I've had in the past.

Not given it proper abuse offroad yet but seems to do the trick on footpaths, etc. I can't wait for summer!

Should add, when I bought it I got £140 worth of free kit- so got shoes, shorts, top and other bits.

It feels like the wheels may be fairly weighty, potential for future upgrade there but the rest of the kit is lovely. Still not convinced by the frog leg brake leavers, they may have to go. Best value CX bike out there in my opinion.

Edit: I'm 5'8'' with the same inseam and find the 54cm size perfect with 10mm spacers below the stem and about 12-17cm of post showing.

Oomidamon, did you h give the arkose two is ten speed with single ring on the front to allow for hydraulic discs, is a bit unusual but looks great in the flesh. I used to use bar end shifters and never really found an issue with them. Arkose three is nine hundred at the moment if you would rather have stis and cake discs.

Jamie - Member

I went for a Croix De Fer and could reco...

....and I don't want it to weigh as much as a car.

Ah...ok, as you were.

Go on then - what's it like?
Give us the full review treatment - we need pictures with your best Doddyface as you nail a slightly muddy left hander.

How does it deal with hexagonally shaped hits?
Any signs of trail resurrection?
Have you bought any 1930's style handlebars as a misguided attempt at individuality?
On a scale of one to real, how real IS steel?
Have the disk brakes caused any penile shrinkage?

Enquiring minds demand the troof.
GET ON WITH IT!

Akira - hadn't spotted that it was a single ringer, cheers. I think I was drawn in by the colour...

Akira - hadn't spotted that it was a single ringer, cheers. I think I was drawn in by the colour...

If the Arkose 3 had been available in that green, I probably would have gone for one.

....as shallow as that sounds.

Jamie - If I could get a green 3 I'd have one.

Damn, the 2014 Arkose 3 is only Sora.

2014 Arkose 3 is Tiagra and 105 mainly

Frame:Pinnacle 6061-T6 double butted aluminium alloy
Fork:Full carbon, tapered steerer
Front Derailleur:Shimano Tiagra
Rear Derailleur:Shimano 105 RD-5600-SS
Number of Gears:20
Shifters:Shimano 105 ST-5600
Chainset:FSA Omega compact
Chainrings:50/34T
Bottom Bracket:FSA external
Cassette:Shimano CS-HG62-10 12-28T
Chain:KMC nickel finish
Pedals:Not Supplied
Brakeset:Avid BB7-SL cable disc
Brake Levers:Shimano 105 ST-5603
Handlebars:Pinnacle DB Aluminium shallow-drop bar, 125mm drop, 70mm reach, 440mm width
Stem:Pinnacle SL Road Ahead stem, 110mm
Headset:FSA Orbit C-40-ACB (NO.42/ACB) – integrated sealed cartridge bearing – 1-1/8 ACB top, 1.5" ACB lower (for 46/56mm Head Tubes ), W/15mm top cover
Grips:Shock-proof dual-density microfibre tape
Rims:Alex Black Dragon 32H
Front Hub:Joytech
Rear Hub:Joytech
Spokes:Stainless PG
Front Tyre:Kenda Small Block 8 35C
Rear Tyre:Kenda Small Block 8 35C
Tubes:Butyl
Saddle:FWE Race men’s, black
Seatpost:Pinnacle Aluminium
Seat Binder:Single-bolt clamp
Weight:Not Specified

Damn, the 2014 Arkose 3 is only Sora.

Naaaaah.

Edit: Wot Ian said.

You're right, I got my 1 and 3 mixed up.

If the CDF is owt like the day one then it'll be comfy, sorted geometry, tough as old boots (tho still not VW golf proof) but weigh a bastid tonne. Since got a kinesis which is almost the same geometry, lighter but not as comfy and probably not as tough at shrugging off rock/crash* damage.

I had problems with stem creep but I was running the steerer full length, once chopped and the stem bung and stem both tightened up properly (and the bung in the right place, aligned with the stem) it all seems ok.

Arkose 2 looks nice, felt light too, but I read somewhere (can't remember where maybe a label on the bike in the shop - not on the evans website) they state the gearing is [i]just[/i] enough and the shifter is a little out of the way so you only shift when you really need to so you can concentrate on the ride, which sounded like marketing spin BS of on-one levels. The shifter is there so you can spec full hydro brakes which is fair enough.

edit found it [url= http://pinnacle-bikes.co.uk/road-and-cyclocross/pinnacle-arkose-two-2014-cyclocross-bike ]"1×10 gearing is enough for most places, or all with a bit of added challenge thrown in and the bar-end shifter may encourage you to click the gears less and just ride."[/url]

*more the bike falling over onto something pointy rather than running it into a wall.

fyi y'all, there's nothing wrong with new-style* sora, it's bombproof.

(*proper sti, no thumb button)

the CDF is heavy, but there's a lot, sorry, (clears throat) [u]A LOT[/u], of weight in the wheels, which are apparently indestructible.

2014 Croix De Fer is a bit lighter than it's predecesor, partly due lighter wheels
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Notes
Continue with green Arkoses 2015, swap out the matt black or the cyan one
Copy to be more obviously not very serious, been compared to on-one so doing something right, or wrong, tbc
Steel bikes or +200g in a set of wheels still seen as heavy

Ta

Jamie - Member
Akira - hadn't spotted that it was a single ringer, cheers. I think I was drawn in by the colour...
If the Arkose 3 had been available in that green, I probably would have gone for one.

....as shallow as that sounds.

Pretty much the same here, love the green but not really taken by the silver although will end up ordering one sooner than later

Notes
Continue with green Arkoses 2015, swap out the matt black or the cyan one
Copy to be more obviously not very serious, been compared to on-one so doing something right, or wrong, tbc
Steel bikes or +200g in a set of wheels still seen as heavy

Ta

I've read that several times now, and still trying to work out what it is I am reading. Is it mardy, or am I reading it wrong? Maybe I am just tired.

That arkose 3 is up there on my list for commuting duties and exploring. The green needs to happen in that model!!!

Jamie, not meant that way at all sorry.
Read as - more colours for next year and that's good imo; a well-meaning backhanded compliment to what on-one do; the CDFs frame/wheel weight rep still suprises me a little but nothing more than that.

Long day here. CNY coming up and a lot of stuff to do by end of today (ie a good few hrs ago our time and an early morning for me).

The green needs to happen in that model!!!

No worries, James, I thought I had read it wrong.

Just to add to this there is now the On one Ti cross bike. Just acquired one and it is great.

been compared to on-one so doing something right, or wrong, tbc

Rereading it, it doesn't seem actually as bad as I first thought and as I said I do like the look of the bike as a package....and the colour 🙂