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Hi all,
I've been following this thread with interest for a few months now, while trying to find another bike frame that ticks all the boxes the tripster atr seems to have covered, but at a better price.
I've been tempted by the pickenflick, and would probably get one if it wasn't for the lack of mudguard mounts. I've looked at aluminium frames, but I've never had one I liked; carbon isn't my thing, so back to Ti where things are a bit too racy or super expensive, and nothing else seems to come close to the amazing tripster for versatility.
There are some great bikes on this thread, and I would probably buy a frame and build it up with bits I have.
Am I right in thinking that the price for the frame has gone up steadily over the last year? It still seems a lot to me, but I could probably sell three bikes, whose duties the tripster will hopefully fulfil, that should cover costs. The thing is, I'm bad at getting rid of things so it's tough! Waiting for a special offer, but prices seem to be the same wherever I look.
An old and dull question, but has anyone weighed a large frame, fork and headset as it comes when new? Interested if claimed weights are accurate.
I'd go for a large, as at 6'1" I like a 57 top tube.
Cheers.
Can someone please explain how to post photos on here?
Great thankyou
I think I paid 1350 for my frame from fatbirds.
However it does seem like it is a keeper bike, which makes the cost/vfm proposition different.
That price seems to be the best at the moment and I guess it will only go up! It's just that it is twice as much as I paid for my last titanium frame, an enigma, but that was about 7 years ago. I guess I need to re-assess things, but will it be £1200 better than my second hand surly cross check? That's one of things you can't really answer I guess.
No didn't face it. I'm not actually convinced it's the bb now.. Maybe it's the wheel.
Only does it under load and stops in the rain.
Have been looking at Ti seat posts.. But don't have a huge amount of post showing.
How much difference will Ti make? Are those J&L ones ok?
Hello Everyone. I have been drooling over this thread for weeks. I saw the tripster at the 2014 London Bike show. Since then have not been able to get it out of my mind. I ride MTB and road but have become increasingly frustrated about not being able to take carbon road bike off onto the bridleways and do some touring. Same bridleways on MTB are just to slow and tedious so ATR seems perfect to cover long distance in good time and do some bike packing.
Go easy on me but here comes the what size frame question!
I am 5 feet 69?64 inches (168cm) Inside leg of 30.7 inches, My road bike is 56cm Boardmans Team Ltd edition. Running a 100mm stem with 3T ErgoNova(42cm). Reach on the drops feels fine.
Personally it feels just bit to high for me on standover. There is space but not much. 51cm ATR seems to be just on the smaller edge for me and 54 seems the logical choice, but is it? Want to run a slightly smaller stem, 90mm with Jones Loop Bar after some of the comments about slowish steering. Somafunk your bike is a work of art! Love what you have done with the dynamo hub and steering bung. Where did you get your ESI grips from? They look like the long ones? I could only find them on the Jones website. 🙂
cloudnine
No didn't face it. I'm not actually convinced it's the bb now.. Maybe it's the wheel.
I know where you are coming from, had the same on my Rose, took everything apart, re-greased, had a new BB fitted, eventually I tracked it down to my rear quick release.
I've got a set of Mavic's on mine, changed the QR, things are much better, but not perfect.
ff29 : Cheers for the comments regarding my tripster, Work of art?….. I can only claim to stealing others ideas from around the net - it's really just a [i]mongrel[/i] bike as i've only chosen components that i wanted for it and attached them to the frame.
I bought the long ESI grips from charlie the bike monger, designed especially for the Jones bars.
You're pretty much the same height/leg length as me and i guess it depends on whether or not you want a higher front end (54cm) or you are happy with a lower front end (51cm), i made my choice for the 54cm with a higher front end as i didn't want a stack of headset spacers which is what would have happened if i went for the smaller size - where are you in the country? - there's quite a few tripster riders up n' down the country and I'm sure someone will let you swing a leg over to check for sizing.
Personally i'd go for the 54cm.
Ta Somafunk. That rings true with me. 54 it is. Not a big fan of headset spacers and tend to keep them to the minimum. Based in London.
Work of art. Yes for sure in a bikey anorak way! If you say it is a mongrel it is a very classy one. Never in a 1000 years would I have dreamed of drilling a carbon fork and dremelling the headset like that. Your bike is so sorted for climbing on and doing epic adventure touring.
Thanks for the tip on the grips. I was googling and could only find mention on the Jones website in the US. Daft considering, I got my Jones Bar from Charlie! Have ordered some grips. Intend to run the Jones bar on my 29er until I get my ATR frameset and build that up.
I have a dilemma. Last day of the on-one 15 percent off today making the Pickenflick a bargain. I know the tripster is what I really want, but is it worth £440 quid more for mudguard eyes, a higher front end and a more relaxed ride? Not having ridden either I have no idea. Decisions, decisions...
So I've been lurking here for a while, prompted by a desire for a Tripster ATR.
In January some scumbags stole my wifes and mine 5 bikes from our garage. Thankfully we were insured. So began the great bike hunt.
Beyond my mtb I had a cross bike and road bike to source. That was until I started looking at adventure/gravel bikes wandering whether combining the budgets would yield a decent all-rounder.
The GT Grade and Jamis Renegade were the front runners until I came across the Tripster ATR. I'd never ridden a Ti bike before and was visually smitten. I rarely buy anything without tons of review trawling and have gotten adept at sorting out genuine negative comments from disgruntled individuals. Not that there was any need for that however, as I have yet to find anything even remotely negative written about the Tripster ATR, be that professional or user reviews. There can't be many things that attain such acclaim!
Anyhoo, after viewing all of the great pics on this forum I bit the bullet, ordered a frameset and enough components to prompt the bank's fraud team into blocking my debit card! A week later its finished, and as this thread sealed the purchase I thought I would upload the results. Thanks for all the indirect inspiration 🙂 Now for the first proper ride!!
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Cornishboy01:
Does it ride as good as it looks? What size is that and do you find the head tube too long?
Pickenflick or atr? Bargain vs beauty...
root-n-5th
Yes it does ride as good as it looks. It covers ground quick enough both on road and off. Slightly more forgiving geometry than the cross bike it has replaced, which made me fear it may not climb so well but I live on the rather hilly North York Moors and it does pretty well in my book.
I'm 5'8" with a 30" leg. I went for the 51cm frame even though the size guides indicated a 54cm. So glad that I did too as the 54cm would have been way too long in the top tube for me - even with the 70mm stem I am running. The head tube seems fine to me but I did leave the steerer a little longer than normal with a spacer above the stem as I want to be able to ride this bike long after I am no longer supple enough to lean over low.
So, I got hold of a Tipster last August, rode it for a few months, loved it. Then after a cold & wet January ride I managed to drop it of the roof of my car. Wind resistance yanked the bike out from the clamp round the down tube, pinching it both sides. [img]<img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8646/16183784721_a6a6384c1b_m.jpg" width="240" height="135" alt="beyond economic repair">[/img]
I made an insurance claim and now have a new frame. I loved the tipster but wanted a slightly different fit not offered by any of the stock Tripster sizes, so ordered a semi-custom Stoater. So here is the deal, I've a damaged 54cm Tripster frame and fork going spare. [img] https://flic.kr/p/r4KxmT [/img]
Should I try and sell it? Would anyone buy it? Is it wroth getting repaired? What to do with it
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I have a dilemma. Last day of the on-one 15 percent off today making the Pickenflick a bargain. I know the tripster is what I really want, but is it worth £440 quid more for mudguard eyes, a higher front end and a more relaxed ride? Not having ridden either I have no idea. Decisions, decisions.
I can't overstate how important on a bike like this (for me) it is to have mudguard fittings and clearance. Your intended use is no doubt different. But many cyclists buy a new bike for best use and eventually move it to poor weather duties. For me (not you, not everyone) the massive clearance and mudguard capability is what makes the Tripster such a fantastic bike. I love it.
I think it's worth the extra over the Pick N Flick.
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Sneaky peak of my build, just waiting for my Mason X Hunt wheels to arrive before completing it....
Your workshop is a bit cleaner than my garage 🙂
I just sort of threw bits at the frame till they stuck in vaguely the right places.
Should I try and sell it? Would anyone buy it? Is it wroth getting repaired? What to do with it
I've no idea, but if you're 100% honest in selling, the buyer views and accepts the risk, I don't see why you shouldn't sell it and move on. I wouldn't expect a fortune for it, but the fork alone is probably worth £100??
I might be interested in the forks if you are selling them
Id be interested in the frameset what you looking for it ? pm please
cheers
dc
@cloudnine … yep the forks are for sale. just email me.
@dmc … just email me to
Hi James, what's your email? It's not in your profile.
Hi James cant find an email mines in my profile
cheers
Dc
How are you all finding the 'feel' of the bike and the steering?
Looking at the geometry figures of the Tripster atr:
The 70.5 head angle, and a 45mm rake fork produces a bike with a high trail figure. This should mean that it should be stable at speed but slow steering maybe with a bit of wheel flop???
Couple that with an ultra low bb drop will mean you have a very planted bike. Great off road but what about on road?
What's it like compared to a full road bike (if you have both)??
Cheers
Rik, hard to do a direct comparison as I sold my Giant OCR to part fund the Tripster - it's taking 2 bikes roles in 1 for me.
I'm also riding with 32mm cross tyres rather than road rubber at the moment.
Biggest difference in feel is the CowBells - drops feel a lot more usable with them on than normal road drops. You may not agree.
It's my utility bike so is often accompanying a single speeding / scootering 4 year old.. don't have any issues with the steering at his pace or trying to catch his older brothers.
Interested in seeing how it performs in 'roadie' guise (25mm tyres, lighter road pedals) but having a bit too much fun on the CX setup at the moment 🙂
I've got 4Season 28c on my road bike and 35c Marathon Supremes on my touring bike - the difference between the two are not that much for everyday use. The supremes are so much faster than a normal marathon.
Cowbells on the touring bike and 3T bars on the road bike. Both are comfy, but i don't ride on the drops ever, 99% on the hoods.
Just wondering if it feels slow and sluggish in comparison to a road bike or even cross bike which will have steeper geometry. Or if it doesn't feel slow and sluggish but planted and stable in a good way???
Or if it doesn't feel slow and sluggish but planted and stable in a good way???
The latter. It is a great bike to ride.
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What's it like compared to a full road bike (if you have both)??
My initial thought when I got on it for the first shakedown was 'Holy crap. Have I done the right thing?'. I had been riding an old Time race frame as a commuter after my Kaffenback snapped, and that had a 73.5° HTA. In comparison, the Tripster felt very odd to start with. After 2 months, I don't even notice any more. Even swapping back and forth onto my current race bike (73° HTA) I don't notice as much.
Thanks Matts that's good to know the 70.5degree head angle does seem slack
Yeah. I was really questioning whether I had bought the right frame for a couple of days. I wanted something that would handle OK for some off road bikepacking and playing about in the woods, but in reality, 95% of the miles I do on it are commuting and training. Happily, now I'm adjusted to it, I like how it handles.
Just wondering if it feels slow and sluggish in comparison to a road bike or even cross bike which will have steeper geometry. Or if it doesn't feel slow and sluggish but planted and stable in a good way???
I thought that at first coming from a 2012 Croix de fer, then I got used to the stable steering versus the quick steering of the CDF, so instead of darting around I now 'power-out' of turns, working against the stability of the steering.
And for longer rides the stability is good as you aren't concentrating on keep the steering straight, and can just concentrate on slogging on.
But the bike felt a lot less sluggish with 40c tyres on and feels 'right' now. And the WTB Nanos are pretty fast on the tarmac as well.
It seems like the rear brake caliper faces on my frame are too rounded - I can't align the TRP Hy/Rd properly against the disc. As soon as I tighten the bolts it angles inward slightly and goes out of alignment, resulting in fairly bad pad/disc rub.
Has anyone else had this, and if so did you use shims, or get the frame-caliper mount area faced? I'm also considering getting the Avid bolt kit which has the angled washers, but I'm not sure whether that will raise the height of the caliper too much, or if that must might not be the best option 🙁
... or I just might be doing something wrong, but I've spent several days checking things and the disc itself appears to be spinning perfectly true. I've also checked a new spare disc, just in case I was missing anything. The wheel itself was built by a reputable local builder and also looks perfectly true.
I've also checked for debris anywhere on the caliper and frame - everything I've looked at has been perfectly clean. The Hy/Rd mounting surface is flat, but the frame mounting area isn't.
The front caliper is perfect. I've also swaped the front & back, with the same result - front is still perfect, rear still has this problem.
Very excited to receive my Mason X Hunt 4seasons wheelset today, rotors and cassette fitted at lunch, tubes and tyres now fitted. Won't be long before I'm on the road now!
Re-shod with some 41mm Surly Knards on Saturday and went for a blast round Epping Forest on Sunday. Damn, this bike is fantastic!
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has any trouble with pedal strike on roots and rocks, etc, when riding off road, due to the large bottom bracket drop?
Cheers.
Have been riding mine off road for the last couple of weeks. Haven't clipped a pedal yet. Not done any really uneven rocky stuff though.
Has anyone ran one of these with a flat bar set up?
I am edging towards one but something is calling me towards a flat bar with bar end type set up.
I never ride on the drops, the vast majority of my time on the roadie is spent on the hoods.
Most of the time I would be running 28mm GPs for road riding but fancy hitting up field edges etc on occasion.
Thoughts please... not sure how i'd go about sizing either??
Feel free to explain what a stupid idea it is!
Thanks
Thanks for info on bottom bracket drop off road. I think it will be ok.
Mbnut: I haven't tried a flat bar on this frame but the usual problem is the top tube is too short as it is designed for drops - It might be a bit upright and squashed, or you can run a very long stem, but then the steering will be ponderous with the 70.5 degree head angle.
I have a sizing question for anybody out there. Sorry.
I'm 6'1". Folk law would say a 57, but I will be riding off road a lot and really want a 56cm top tube. Anybody of my height out there riding a 55.5cm tripster? I have found one in that size at a good price. I often find bikes that are meant to fit me a little long.
Cheers.
http://www.profile-design.com/product/base-bars/t2-wing/
This sort of thing is what I am thinking.
Then I could run the standard brake/shifter set up I think and it would deal with the sizing to some degree.
I am scrolling through but if anyone has pictures of this kind of set up that would help.
Thanks