[Closed] Trail trolls

if he's been seen by independent people more than once then talk to the police.

Based on the above have you approached your local Police and expressed this? I imagine this would be of great interest to them. At the very least this bloke is at risk/a breach of the peace etc imminent.

What an imbecile.

Get a couple of mates to corroborate your story, then tell the cops he keeps getting his c0ck out at you while you ride. Simples.

Follow him home. The next time you see him; recite his full address. Say nothing more, make no threats.

then tell the cops he keeps getting his c0ck out at you while you ride

Class. Serve him right though.

If he's a professional dog walker then he'll probably have a business name or something to trace him by, so definitely report to the police.

Any ideas ????

Shove one of the logs up his arse?

Own with bombers, pee in shoes?

Belittle his choice of dog breed?

Kill him and use him as the foundation for another jump.

Google: how to tie a person to a tree without rope

Belittle his choice of dog breed?

have you no mercy..!!?

Just kick him in.

You don't need video evidence to go to the Rozzers.

Any of the above really, that is one of my pet (no pun intended) hates. They could really hurt someone.

Can you report it to the landowner - what he is doing is effectively vandalising their property.

I guess that they might have some liability if someone was injured? - in their interest to tell this guy to keep off their property.

If a kid had his mouth split by a wire over a trail the police would have a record. Go have a chat with them

No one is going to give you permission to install CCTV in the woods, but we were told it was OK to take photographs if we saw stick activity in progress.
But if you use a trail camera to photograph local wildlife who knows what you'll see.
And chat to dog walkers - they know each other and will be as hacked off as the mtbers - we found sticks were often being cleared by dog walkers! This can give you a clue to names etc.
Then dump an envelope of photos through the local police station door, and wait. Make sure you mention reckless conduct in the covering note.
In a local case the stick laying stopped and a report was sent to the PF(and I bet the sticklayer got the row of his life from his wife when the polis rocked up at his door).

Approach the land owner for the authority to remove him from the private land.

****man has a right of way to use the bridleway but thats all.

You can always follow the man back to his car or home and then call the police. What good that will do and the appetite from plod to pursue this individual is unknown.

The alternative would be violence but given your nature of posting for a solution it seems you would prefer to avoid this?

Alternatively, a group of friends turning up on pushbikes at say 7am on a sunday and ringing his doorbell and face him down and ask him why he feels its neccessary to act lke this. Legal and you have marked his card suggesting any further injuries will be reported to the police...

moustache 😯

freakish googling coincidence led me to bencooper of this'ere parish alter-ego, "Mr Boombastic"

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/47513-Trespass-Law

and based on what he's put there Id suggest stick man is displaying indications of "Aggravated Trespass"

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/section/68

which would be a criminal rather than a civil offence.

A person commits the offence of aggravated trespass if he trespasses on land [F1in the open air] and, in relation to any lawful activity which persons are engaging in or are about to engage in on that or adjoining land [F2in the open air] , does there anything which is intended by him to have the effect—

(a)of intimidating those persons or any of them so as to deter them or any of them from engaging in that activity,

(b)of obstructing that activity, or

(c)of disrupting that activity.

A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months or a fine not exceeding level 4 on the standard scale, or both.

Aye,i think we could hook up a few riders and dog walkers to 'relay follow' the idiot back home.Its down at Adel woods if anybody knows it.
Check out Adelwoodz facebook and scroll down a bit,he's made it on to that so far.I think one lad has reported it to police.
Nowt done so far...i guess it takes death these days.
Any riders who use the spot note; the idiot usually goes down around lunch time 12pm-12.30 ish......iiiiiidiiiooot.

wrecker - Member
Follow him home. The next time you see him; recite his full address. Say nothing more, make no threats.

Like this one

After you follow him home, leave sticks and barbed wire in front of his front door.

And kick his dogs.

OP states the landowner rides the trails and it's private land. Seems to be the answer right there. Vandalism and endangering life/property through a deliberate act. I would have though it's akin to threatening behavior and the thin blue line would happily pay a visit for a quiet word rather than for manslaughter.

His response was, ' that he'd put wire across before but this had resulted in a kids mouth being split

I would like to say based on this, hospitalize him in self defense.

Going to the police is a more sensible option though.

What's the business name he uses? Have you seen his van?

clutch fluid the word stickman on his motor

Punch him in the throat

When we used to deal with poachers undoing the sump bolt enough for it to rattle loose...

OP states the landowner rides the trails and it's private land.

OP, go and speak to the landowner about this ASAP. If the actual landowner goes to the police about this, action will be taken.

I like the one about him getting his cock out to you..

Better still he did it in front of your little girl/boy who is now traumatised and can't speak...

Or quietly threaten him that, that could happen to him if he persists, in the nicest possible way of course...

Wee on his dog.

Can't believe you didn't **** him. I'd have lost my shit.

As has been posted, calmly and politely make him fully aware you know of his business name, his home address and when he is around. Do it in such a way that he cannot try and say that you threatened him, that way you are merely telling him something.

Blatantly film and photograph him, while telling him (get this on camera) that you will send this to your local paper. If by any luck you have a local rag owned by Northcliffe Media (with a "thisis...." site), they LOVE this kind of content as it helps them serve up more ads for their SEO and CPM ad campaigns so they like a good controversial story.

Just politely ask him not to continue doing it. Violence or aggression in any given situation is not permitted in singletrack world.

Firstly. RE: the local jump spot. Is it public or private land? If you shouldn't be there, you undermine your own credibility somewhat.
Secondly. Regardless of whether you should or shouldnt be where you are, stringing up wires is a pretty dangerous practice and I suspect the police would take a dim view of such things.
Dont get into a confrontation with him, take a picture of him and get in touch with the police. Let them deal with it.

Surely deliberately setting traps with the sole pupose of causing harm (or even death) to others is very, very illegal and in the great scheme of things in a whole other league to riding a bike on what may be a cheeky trail? I'd be mentioning words like 'manslaughter' to him and comments like I know who you are and where to find you etc...

Oh I do like threads like this...

I'd definitely kill him dead.

RE: the local jump spot. Is it public or private land? If you shouldn't be there, you undermine your own credibility somewhat.

OP has stated the landowner themselves rides these woods. And having just joined their FB page, it's apparent the owner very much gives their blessing.

beefheart - Member
And kick his dogs.

why didn't you follow him home that day you saw him if you're group had been after him for so long?

I think we should give the guy a taste of his own medecine. Take a leaf out of this mans' book....

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*your sorry 😳

I tried to follow him but he saw me and went off on one.He seems to be very angry and likes trying to blame those trying to stop him ? You can't get a word in he never stops yaking.I got pissed and walked away with him still yelling.I quote 'Leave me alone you weirdo,i'm not damaging the trails its another person', followed by effin and jeffin.
I think i managed to get in 'Do you ever shut up'.One thing i did notice, once he'd spotted other dog walkers he started screaming louder and trying to accuse me of ...not sure really.Whole ream of bull shit flew from his mouth.You know the type no doubt.
Thankfully the other dog walkers know said land owner and their kids ride here so they're going keep an eye out too.
I so wanted to nut the guy !
you got to laugh,he said he was going to the police as he felt threatened...is that cause you are 'breaking the law, breaking the law..bevis&butthead came to mind.

This is why I never go riding without a jousting pole.
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Film away. RIPA does not cover private individuals.

Get a cheap trail camera. Try a google search bushnell trail cam. That would get some great evidence.

Photos and film are not required by law but do provide daming evidence. It appears his actions are intending to cause GBH. Police may be interested!

Get a pic of him and go to the police sayng he was exposing himself to your kids when you were out for a family walk, you can across him shagging one of his dogs. You fortunately managed to steer your kids away before they saw anything.

I doubt he would go to these woods again.

Ps might only work if you have kids!!!

We have tried to hide out and film him but [...] he doesn't appear

there's a spot I ride with some guys which might be really boring, but all the logs make it more of an intricate challenge and help me hone my skills, maybe this guy's just wanting you all to be able to shift your weight on the bike more and be better riders?

What skills do you suggest for wire across a trail?

club their skulls in before they get that far #awaits the hammer#

If hes out walking a few dogs the dogs will get a sniff of you hiding in a tree or bush and wander over for a looksee = busted .
Get a compact camera with 20x optical zoom and photograph him from a few hundred yards away.
If one of you could 'borrow' a dog for lunchtime walkies , even better.
Get the Landowner to shove a 12 guage up his nose with a 'Get oorrrfff mooiiiiii laaaaaaaannnnd" , gets the point across nicely.

If you don't want to go to the police you can go to your Local Councils Anti-social behaviour officer - they will work with you, the landowner and the police to stop this - at the extreme end would be an ASBO which would stop him being in the vicinity (an ASBO may be civil law but breaking it is criminal) Is he letting the dogs dump in the woods? if he doesn't have permission then he can be done under the Dog fouling act. If he's a pro dog walker then chances are he is registered with the local council so they can have dealings on that side. Does he have permission to be carrying out his business (dog walking) on private land?
There are many ways to get a pillock like this without resorting to his behaviour and I hope you do get him. I hate ****s like this.

Thanks for info folks.I think i will put a WANTED poster up inc. what hes been caught doing,the fact he admitted to wire placement and hes a pro dog walker.Not to challenge but report if seen to local police station (inc num). If they can, photo or film him and to ignore his threats of RIPA fraud.

I rode through some baler twine strung across a bridleway this summer - fortunately with my height and speed it just snapped giving me a rope burn across my arms. If a child had hit it with less weight and speed and the twine at their head height it would have been a nasty incident.

I found a load of logs pulled across one of my local trails on Tuesday night. I imagine some militant walker saw the churned up 3' wide mess that is that trail segment and decided we should be stopped from riding down it because it's spoiling it for walkers. However, that trail wasn't there two years ago - we cut it in January 2011 so the only reason anyone can walk down it is because we MTBers made it! It's the same on another trail that suffered a stickman earlier this year - some years back we cut a load of trails down a long narrow coppice and nowadays children play down there, families walk down there and kids do outdoor adventure shelter building and related activities down there. But until we MTBers opened up a human-sized route through, no-one was getting to enjoy that bit of woodland.

As you've caught him in the act I'd report him now, before putting any posters up. His attempts to cause bodily harm through setting traps are criminal acts which should be taken seriously.

OP - Get this guy to ride the trail regularly.

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If he is a pro dog walker and using private property with out the express wish of the the land owner i'd guess he is on dodgy ground.

Also if when confronted again starts the i'm going to the police thing, say ok lets call them now.

10/10 for self control by the way.

If he is a pro dog walker and using private property with out the express wish of the the land owner i'd guess he is on dodgy ground.

Depends if it's a ROW surely? you ywouldn't need permission to walk on a footpath.

thisisnotaspoon - Depends if it's a ROW surely? you wouldn't need permission to walk on a footpath.

wrecker - Member

Follow him home. The next time you see him; recite his full address. Say nothing more, make no threats.

Better still, get a mate with a Norn Iron accent to say 'You still driving that navy blue 57 plate 1.6 Honda Civic*?' 😈

*or whatever it is.

I'm not instinctively violent but that attitude of wanting hurt people, esp a boy, deserves it. He thinks hes above retribution. Assuming no one is looking. And you know what you are doing. And you think your hard enough!

Second the posters approach. No doubt he'll tear them down, but it might rattle him enough to leave you alone.

What would be even better is if you can get the police to take an interest, and then either add contact details for the investigating officer to your poster, or get them to put up their own posters.

Balaclavas and some big **** off knives.
Threaten that ****er till he pisses his self.

You could get some aniseed and spray it about the track . Dog walker will be too busy to bother with the track.

C

Capture him, put a bag over his head and drag him deep into the woods. Then take his shoes and socks off, slice the soles of his feet with a razorblade then leave him to walk back. 😈 Or is that going a bit to far ? 😳

Aye,maybe a bit.I know some of the younger lads who'd do it ! I'm more of the law abiding 'nearly mid' aged kinda guy.
Just a reminder to all who ride down at Adel, the quarry is private land and the land owner does have rights.Please stay off that area and defo no digging down that end,please...we don't want to give the other prat any amo to fire at us.

Report him to the police, saying you saw him sexually interfering with the dogs, and that he asked if you wanted to join in. Just makes sure its at a time when he is there so independent witnesses may see his transport there. Any allegations that make it to public knowledge should do a fair bit of damage to his private and business reputations.

Pretty sure I've seen him parking in the Car Park by the jumps. I'm up most Sundays at that time. (Just use it as a good place to have a break on the XC ride). Ill keep an eye out.

What sort of vehicle does he use ?
I know the land owner of the quarry drives a red pick up - is usually down over the weekend at some point.Just to be sure you aren't mixing it up with him,i believe he has dogs.
I pressume its van of sorts, with poss dog walking decals on ?

Have you reported him to the police yet?

What is the name of the dog walking business? Just thinking about the google ranking trick that got done the other week for that lad from the uplift place......

We should all post it up on here about

XXXXX dog walking in XXXXXX dangerous criminal injuring young kids

Well done to the OP for remaining restrained upon hearing of the trolls satisfaction with injuring a child.
My reaction would have been excessive and illegal.
I really hope he is caught and charged with serious offenses.

I think One of the lads from dig2ride has informed the police.
Just need to get a pic or two really so he can't deny.
With any luck he may well have got the hint and buggered off by now as i haven't seen him in the last week.....they always come back thou.

Alsa.I think the dog walker may have gone to an all time low.
The council have been up at adel today and there have been complaints about exposed roots and potential harm to trees.Not sure what the council can do on private land ...? I also came across a man in his 50's last week on a 20 odd year old mtb..got chatting and all he did was moan about the under-cutting of tress and damage to roots.Short tubby with beard and blond graying curly hair. I think the evil fates of multi moron co-op are conspiring to flatten this place again.
Tree roots..really..c'mon is that all you can manage ?!

Build immediately if they do ! Fight the council. If anybody knows any thing go to ADEL WOODZ fb pg .

Digging around tree roots is bad practice, you'd be surprised how much damage it can do. Not saying they're right, but it's not completely ridiculous.

This bloke is a c of the highest order.

Tell the police, you obviously can give a good description of him. If a kid was really injured then they have to do something about it.

Failing that, hopefully one of the trees he's digging out will land on him and the dogs he walks will eat his face.

Nasty bloke, hope he gets what he deserves and it's fing painful. 👿

'Accidentally' crash into him and break as many of his bones as possible...obviously as a 'consequence' of trying to avoid his traps... 🙂

tree preservation officers are the bane of my life...they have so many powers it beggars belief - in our neck of the woods they've made life easy for themselves by treating all trees as protected!! you need to get clever with the root situation - exposed roots under canopy, damage to roots larger then diameter of thumb are not allowed, if the trees are deemed 'of interest'. Sounds like your nemesis has got clever..what a $%&^

If you can go on Adel woodz fb pg with any advice then please do , as i think the folks running the pg seem to have little idea.I get that they're mad at council going up yet again but some of their comments are,well..not helping. Ta

People are making this too complicated. There are two options. Legal and illegal.

Legal - document him, film him, report him, pursue a prosecution.

Illegal - take him for a little walk with a few mates and put him in the picture.

Both ways can work, both have their pros and cons.

I'd not use a chat forum to debate it if it was me TBH