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I really like mine, Global TH2 which is a Ti and Carbon mix... Pitty its stored in the UK and I'm in Colombia. Think it will be another two years before I get to ride it again 🙁
Not long back in from my first ride ,on my newly built up VanNick Tuareg.
Fantastic,needs a few tweaks ,but I flew through the woods. 😀
Ok,it was dark ,and I had new bike excitement,so everything seemed faster than last week,but hey, it felt great and this frame has been hanging in the attic all winter waiting for spring.
Now ,why has it been hanging in the attic ?
Well it's a replacement frame for the one that I found a crack in last year. 😯
This will be my third Ti frame.
First one was a bit like a DNA frame that I bought in 1998 from a London frame builder.
Still have this ,and it has been very good( no cracks,no problems),but being a V brake frame and really only suited to 80mm forks ,I decided to go for something more modern .
So in 2009 I bought a Tuareg frame,got it all built up and took to it right away.
Did loads of miles on it ,the Trans Rockies and lots of big days out .Just getting ready to head up to the start line at last years 10UTB and spotted the crack.
Sent it back to VN (after the event 😉 )who were very nice ,they offered me a Zion or for 100euro the newer version Tuareg(which had a taper steerer).
So I got the Tuareg and have been collecting bits to bolt on to it over the last few months.
Do I worry about it cracking ? nope ( I have a theory why the last one went where it went anyway)
Would I buy another Ti frame ? Yup ,I love the way they ride,the uncluttered look, and the wee details on the VN does it for me.
Buy whatever bike material you want , buy it because you want it,not because someone told you you should. 🙂
I'd be genuinely interested in how/why you think your first Tuareg cracked - off forum if that helps 🙂
yup ,not for a public forum Druidh ,an you know what this place is like with [u]Experts[/u] 😉
I picked up a planet x ti sportive about 2 years ago looking to replace my 04 workhorse alu principia training bike. I already had a parlee for racing and best. As time rolled on the planet x got the least miles, it just didn't have the zip and zing of the principia and in rides of up to 4/5 hours I didn't find the extra comfort it offered made a difference to me. Compared to the z4 it just felt like a lump. So I ended up selling it on. I don't think it was a bad bike, it was light enough, stiff enough and comfy enough; but didn't really shine in those departments either. It just didn't offer my riding much at all. There are probably better ti bikes out there, but you asked for personal experience.
Love my ti Setavento - had it 18 months now (bought frame 2nd hand) and the love shows no sign of abating. Has the 'honest' 'pure' feel of an alloy hardtail, but without any of the boneshakery - therefore great for longer rides. Light and just right.
I love to ride my orange vit-t but only use it as a treat being a lynsky made frame it's life might be a little shorter than I had hoped.
On the other hand old school merlin road bike 7 years old and countless miles
It's much more comfortable than my tcr
Kobe Ti, here. love it...
a frame well ahead of it time.
Ive just gone back to a Ti hardtail for AM/mini-DH ridding having ridden 5-8'' bikes for the last 5 years. Unbelivably refreshing to get back on something so efficient and zingy. Titanium is much more comfertable than alu. Theres no way im going back to a FS or Alu/steel frame for a long time. Plus the zising on this is just perfect. Mines a Kingdom Foia V2. Still need to chop the steerer and fit my XTR bits. The frame isnt that light; claimed 1.67 kg but came in at 1.89 kg (4.2 lbs). Its build up fairly light though. Weighs around 26 lbs. Rides realy well with the Talas fork- 100mm for climbing, 130mm for trail and 160mm AM/Dh. I cant think of anything i'd like to change. For now its the perfect bike.
Between my partner and I we have owned 6 titanium frames
One of mine got stolen, one had a cracked weld, one had splits along the non drive side chain stay, one has been absolutley fine.
One of partners bikes had splits in the seat stay above the disk caliper, the other is fine.
neither of us have never broken any other frame, I really like the ride of titanium and lack of paint but for two, wheels on the ground riders to break that many frames points to a problem with the material, design or construction.
Makes and models?Bruce - Member
One of mine got stolen, one had a cracked weld, one had splits along the non drive side chain stay, one has been absolutley fine.One of partners bikes had splits in the seat stay above the disk caliper, the other is fine.
I have a 90s raleigh ti - great bike but very harsh ride.
I don't really want to datails, but all one mine came from reputable US manufactures of titanium bikes.
I was very sceptical about the "magic carpet" ride quality of Ti frames ... until I bought a Ragley Ti.
Seems to have an aluminium feel in terms of pedalling stiffness and weight but none of the harshness. There is feeling of compliance in the frame that takes the edge of trail chatter but without the flex of a steel frame.
I have a Kinesis GF Ti road frame - not comparable to a carbon race bike but a fantastic all rounder - love it 🙂
bike for life? LOL
this thread may help to kill that myth.
I bought a Tuareg frame last year and built it into a 23lb machine.
What do I think of it?
I smile thinking about riding it.
I smile when riding it
I smile thinking about having ridden it.
In summary it makes me happy.
See - other than ironic statements like that made on this forum, I've never seen or heard that phrase applied to [i]any[/i] bike regardless of frame material.MrSmith - Member
bike for life? LOL
this thread may help to kill that myth.
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/my-new-bike-for-life-watch-out-hummer-inside ]http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/my-new-bike-for-life-watch-out-hummer-inside[/url]
druidh - Member
other than ironic statements like that made on this forum
Production frames will have an engraved headbadge and the cable adjusters will be anodised metal rather than plastic. In keeping with the bike for life idea Kinesis are planning to offer a free frame refinishing service – so every few years you can send it back for a buffing up and a fresh set of decals to keep it all looking crisp.
road.cc
This is the kind of bike-for-life hardtail that many riders aspire to, but few can afford – except in this case, the Rock Lobster Team Titanium really is eminently affordable. What are you waiting for?
bikeradar
For someone seeking a frame with the comfort and durability of steel, the stiffness of aluminium and understated looks Ti is a tempting proposition. In any case, titanium can be a bike for life.
epic cycles uk
Hi all, what do you think of Titanium bikes? which manufacturer would you recommend?
Why do you not see them in the pro peloton?
I have been looking around for a 'classic top end' bike that will last and like the idea of the 'life time' warranty.
Any comments greatly appreciated.
a uk cycling forum non-ironic post
And now in 2011 we’re still enamoured by Titanium. Producing stunning bicycles that look, ride and last like none other. Add in some custom design finesse and manufacturing expertise and you’ve got a bike for life.
Bruen bikes (ti frame manufacturer)
LOL, fine work mrsmith!
I was gonna post something after your first reply, but you seemed to be having so much fun 🙂
Is that a steel or carbon chip on your shoulder?
Cotic Soda- bloody love it.Fast,whippy,wee bit springy but not too much.up and down the (not tarmac) hill fast and great on bumpy stuff.hates trees.
Is that a steel or carbon chip on your shoulder?
neither. a pervasive internet myth perpetuated by those seeking affirmation from sycophants of their irrational purchases 🙄
Are people here just too heavy for ti frames?
My partner weighs about 8st and she had one crack.
Love my (Ragley) ti - not broken, which considering the lunatic behaviour it encourages and has received over the last 2 and a half years riding is no mean feat!
Bruce - Member
My partner weighs about 8st and she had one crack
This is a bike forum, not a biology lesson.
My Cotic Soda has a permanent place in my bike shed. It cracked and was out of warranty and has been in there for the last 4 years waiting for Cy to pick it up! 😉
Not sure why it's still there, don't know what to do with it I suppose!
I'm really enjoying the Kingdom Double9, but not sure if that's down to the 29" wheels or frame.
Got an orignial On One Inbred, had it from new in 2003 and ahve toured on it, ridden trail centres on it and raced numerous 24 hour solos on it.
I love it for so many reasons
I've got a custom Ti frame that I had made by Dean USA six years ago. The geometry is the same as my much loved 1993 vintage Orange Clockwork but adjusted for a 100mm fork. Like the original it's a demon on tight twisty trails and climbs really well. Seems to work better as a singlespeed than geared though, maybe too much flex when grunting in the big ring?
In case you hadn't guessed, yes I'm loving it. And it hasn't cracked.
Kryton57 - MemberBruce - Member
My partner weighs about 8st and she had one crackThis is a bike forum, not a biology lesson.
Best STW post ever 🙂
Soda from the very first batch here. Love it. Compared to the Soul it replaced, it's got more of a spring in it's gait - wants to pop off every root and rock and spend a much time out of contact with the trail as possible. Awesome climber (partly due to the overall weight) and super-nimble on the singletrack.
I found I was getting tempted into doing things on it that 3.3lb frames really aren't designed for (15'+ gaps, 6'+ drops) so I built myself a BFe as a playbike. Yet on an average Peaks rocky bridleway descent the Soda is way faster, despite 30mm less fork travel as it's just so much more comfortable. It also jumps better, probably due to the extra spring in the frame, which makes it's prescence felt when pumping the face of a jump. (The slacker angled BFe comes into it's own on the real steep gnadgery stuff though).
I am slightly surprised I've not broken it yet and as and when it happens, I will be absolutely gutted. It's simply my favourite bike, even though in some ways it's the "least capable". It just puts a smile on my face every time I ride it, simple as that. If it ends up braking unrepairably, a custom builder somewhere will end up making me another one as identical as possible.
Doesn't the BFe have the same angles as the Soda, fork not withstanding?
(Not a smartarse question)
Love my Kobe, but it doesn't half batter me when I'm riding it. Soft and squishy it is not.
Interesting discussion followed by the funniest post ever
Kryton57 - Member
Bruce - Member
My partner weighs about 8st and she had one crackThis is a bike forum, not a biology lesson.
Doesn't the BFe have the same angles as the Soda, fork not withstanding?
(Not a smartarse question)
Yes - voila:
...despite 30mm less fork travel...
Ti alloys bother me. Potentially so good but so often compromised by microscopic material or welding defects.
I have a last-generation-from-the-far-east Cotic Soda and I'm very happy with it indeed; it has already taken me around some lovely parts of the world (Tajikistan, Laos, Vietnam, Peru, Bolivia) and it will be accompanying me around Tibet and Nepal this summer.
