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Think of it less like an order lost.And more like your will to live,faith in humanity and sanity retained.
Did someone point this out earlier in the thread and then get lambasted for being rude?
@boblo I told Barty to jog on is what happened. After he started that thread (taking our 'association' out of context) to 'support me' but I suspect get at brant. I didn't ask for this 'support' and I made it clear to Barty that Brant is not standing in the way of me building 15 or 20 bikes a year. In fact Philxx1975 is right in a way and I know that I need more bikes on show.
Alarm bells started to ring when during the phone conversation on monday with Barty I felt like he didn't really listen to me, he cut me off and talked over the top of me. He seemed more interested to talk about his 'community' projects than the bike and I could tell that there was some sort of proposition coming my way in the future: but not a commision for a bike. He admitted to me he has 'some history on that thread, I'll tell you about it later'. Then at the end of the conversation told me he had decided to go with Ted James anyway. Then the next day he spent writing the other thread, when instead he could have come up to York for a fitting session and a chat. He told me he doesn't have to work and feels guilty about how wealthy he is: some sort of millionaire man of leisure wind up merchant. This is out of character for me to talk publicly about one of my 'customers' but the guy has really pissed me off.
Wow.
Sorry to hear that.
Just keep making the nice bikes for nice people.
x1000Just keep making the nice bikes for nice people
And keep putting photos up so us paupers can drool and dream.
Ahh....that explains it.He offsets all the guilt by being an unconscionable arsehat ( has someone warned TJ?)....not THAT one.
This thread just keeps giving. It's nice to see the STW collective supporting each other.
Titch, love your work and can't wait to see more creations 😀 ! Looks like your experience helped you identify this guy. Seems TJ wasn't so lucky..but he's nails so it should be okay.
I don't think Ted is one to suffer fools.
Who does?
Weird thread all round!
Me...everyday 🙁
Me, obviously.
I've only come back to respond to this:
Alarm bells started to ring...
None of this is true.
Titchmarsh; you have issues mate. You took umbrage with an image I used with you in it; not an image over which you have copyright, and which is in the public domain anyway. I did not use it to defame or disrespect you in any way, whatever you may think. You've had the opportunity to discuss things in private, but instead have brought them onto here. Your choice, but you only found the thread by googling your own name, then fished for potential business on here. You had the chance for a commission and have now turned it down. Your decision, but to distort and speak about private communications on here is pathetic. You're not a person to be trusted; now everyone can see that. I could speak about things you've said, but I won't stoop to your level.
Anyway, I wish you health in life. Hope things work out for you in the future.
From what's been shared here, I know whom I would choose to spend time with and whom to trust. Page 1 informed that decision...
BTW 'I'm going to leave it there...' didn't last very long did it? Bad case of last worditis...
You too, I mean that sincerely.
Interesting line. ".......You're not a person to be trusted; now everyone can see that".
I think the majority of people on this forum would think otherwise about Mr.Titchmarsh, based on his comments here vs. yours. I've had the pleasure of meeting him just the once, briefly at a bike show, and he's a gent.
You sir, are not.
Wow, weird thread indeed. Have been following it, and the associated one started by the OP, and it's pretty clear who are the regular folks, and who is the oddball.
Don't everyone be too down on poor Barty, this thread has served it's purpose and everyone has gone away with the best result for all concerned, except him.
Maybe he'll find a kindred spirit to manufacture his design.
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I've lost interest in Barty.
I just want to know how many kidneys I need to sell in order to get that Titchmarsh 29+!
Well, I know who I believe in this thread, and it's not the OP. Mostly because I've had exactly the same kinds of conversations on occasion.
'on occasion'? With the OP or others? I.e. does he have form for this?
Interesting how the 'bartyp persona' has slipped a bit on that last post.
I'm just left worried that some poor UK frame builder's going to end up being the unwitting victim of an actual purchase by bartyp.
There were indications the it was there all along. As I said above, it reminded me of the awesome one who couldn't take any push back and flounced when public opinion swung against him.
Very similar...
someone clever save this in a spare internet somewhere, it's bound to get deleted and it's WAY too good to lose.
Someone near Titchmarsh should drop round some beers for services to the UK bike industry.
i hope someone has linked to this on any framebuilding forums.........
This is out of character for me to talk publicly about one of my 'customers' but the guy has really pissed me off.
I hadn't heard of you beforehand, but now I've seen your website and have dribbled expansively over some fabulous-looking bikes. I'd be staggered if you couldn't make a living selling those to people who value your opinion and appreciate your craftsmanship.
Nah, it's here forever like most stuff on the internet...
'on occasion'? With the OP or others? I.e. does he have form for this?
I don't think with bartyp - but the same kind of person, where you get the feeling they're not really interested in buying a bike, they're wanting some kind of business relationship or something.
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