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Just another post so I can message sellers in the classifieds
And another. Just another post so I can message sellers in the classifieds
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Is Stan only using this site for learning? If so, despite the amount of knowledge on this forum, there is also a huge amount of nonsense. How will Stan know what to ignore (or not use as fact)?
This is going to result in Stan being like Grok for Elon and it ends up regurgitating all the incorrect stuff and helping to feed the misinformation. A bit like Elon now getting fed all the absolute mince from X and then sharing it and giving it more validity in some way.
Images. If I click on an image, that I or someone else has placed within a post, it hyperlinks to a completely different image.
Is there any intention to bring back the 'delete post' button?
This talk to Stan thing... I get dark text on a dark backgound in the text input... looks like nothing is happening when you type in it.
The security check is becoming tedious. Shame when the forum seems to run well otherwise
We have a ticket open with Kinsta suppory now about the Cloudflare issue
Today's expereince.
1/ open STW from browser and start navigating the forum but realise the most recent post is 08/05/2026
2/ clear cache and history on Firefox browser (which is irritating as it logs me out of every other site I'm using). Still 08/05/2026
3/ OK I'll try to log in. Eventually succeed after multiple hurdles having learned that you ignore the first red warning about the cache even if you've just cleared the cache and here I am.
4/ If I want to see my own replies and any reactions to them I know I'm going to have to go through the same procedure again.
I must be really keen to know what Timba is posting on Ukraine. 🙂
2/ clear cache and history on Firefox browser (which is irritating as it logs me out of every other site I'm using). Still 08/05/2026
You can clear just the STW cookie. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/clear-cookies-and-site-data-firefox
Also, the database for Free Members is sometimes behind. Mark can give a more detailed description.
That caching error at login should be fixed now.
The forum is cached for logged in users, regardless of paid or free. Both should get the latest updated pages. It's only when logged out that the page may be an old version.
Isn't that the opposite of what you said before? You said cached pages = older data, unless I'm hallucinating. Which is wholly possible, I didn't get a great deal of sleep.
I'll be honest, I don't understand this configuration whichever way around it is. Maybe that's on me, I'm not a webdev and obviously I have no visibility of anything. But surely all requests should be going to the cache in the first instance for performance reasons? A cache miss should then presumably have to make a direct database query which is slower.
Is there a TTL on cached data? Is that why cached pages can be out of date, the cache doesn't know it's out of date until it has cause to go check? (I'm thinking like DNS here...)
💡 Oh hang on, is it a communal write cache we're talking about? Logged-out users aren't seeing changes because they haven't been fully committed to the database yet?
No. You are right. I meant the exact opposite of what I wrote 🙂
Logged in users DO NOT get cached pages. Only Logged out users get cached (old) pages. Free or Full members are treated the same though for the purposes of caching. We try to make sure that if you are logged in, no matter your sub level, you get the most up-to-date version of a page.
Soooooooooooo "caching" in this context is for server load rather than (direct) user performance?
Ie, the Great Unwashed being served cached pages means it's faster for people with an account?
Yes, there's a performance benefit but that's not the principle reason. An uptodate cached page is literally an oxymoron. If it's cached at all, even for a really short period of a few seconds, the page is not uptodate. Where a user is posting a reply, you expect to see that reply appear in seconds. Any delay can result in the user hitting post/reply again and we get a double post. To engage with the forum in any way other than simply reading something you MUST get the very latest version of that page for the forum to operate well. So, for forums, the universal way is to not cache the page for logged in users. Logged out users vastly outnumber the logged in users on our site. If we offered logged out users the same uncached, bang up to date pages then we'd have some serious server performance issues. So... that's why our setup is uncached for logged in. Cached for logged out.
It IS possible to run a forum uncached for all users but the cost to having every page extracted from the database for everyone is a huge load on any server. With multiple servers or a server farm, say like Facebook or a big social media platform or Reddit, you can give all your visitors, logged in or not, the live page right out of the database. For the likes of us with our large forum but small budget, we make do with a single dedicated server, multiple cores and lots of RAM But with a powerful (Redis) object cache and we prioritise who gets the best experience based on their user levels. In the case of the forum that's logged in or not.
That said, WPForo (The software creators of our forum) have their own specific forum cache built in to the forum software. It's not caching the entire page including the actual content (which is kind of how normal page caching works), but what it does do is cache parts of the page that don't change, like the stylesheets and small images/icons etc. So it's a special kind of limited cache for forums.
For more try the following as a Google search 'How to cache a forum'.
For more try the following as a Google search 'How to cache a forum'.
Subtle. 😁
I did look at this very superficially a little while ago. Consensus seemed to be "enable WPforo's cache and disable everything else because it conflicts" but of course that's Bottom Half Of The Internet advice so who knows, and I'm not the one at STW's coal face.
I appreciate the explanation, though. I find it all quite fascinating and I like learning things.
