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Re DMs
Under all the usernames above I can see an envelope symbol. Clicking on it takes me to a page where I can DM.
@PrinceJohn test DM sent via the above route. Hopefully it works.
We are trialling a new DM system that better integrates with the forum. The old system is still there, which may sound like a really confusing state of affairs - but that is so any existing conversations don't get cut off. Once everyone has switched to the new system we'll tidy it all up.
Click on a foru users name and then hit the envelope icon.
Quick one: after many years here I've tried to use the member discount page for the first time and can't log in, because it doesn't send the email code to do so.
Re DMs
Under all the usernames above I can see an envelope symbol. Clicking on it takes me to a page where I can DM.
@PrinceJohn test DM sent via the above route. Hopefully it works.
That wasn't there earlier.
Quick one: after many years here I've tried to use the member discount page for the first time and can't log in, because it doesn't send the email code to do so.
Before I dig into this. Are you using the same email address your account here uses? The email we have on file for you here is the one that gets used in the validation process with Endurance Zone.
Also, on the new system there's no restrictions for free members. Of course, it goes without saying (But I'm saying it anyway) that the same rules of the forum apply to DM's.
Quick one: after many years here I've tried to use the member discount page for the first time and can't log in, because it doesn't send the email code to do so.
Before I dig into this. Are you using the same email address your account here uses? The email we have on file for you here is the one that gets used in the validation process with Endurance Zone.
Good question, and yes, step 1 was working out what email address I have on file with STW and making sure it's enabled and receiving emails!
Discussed here: https://singletrackworld.com/forum/off-topic/member-discounts-garmin/#post-13716821
I've responded on that thread too. It does seem to be a widespread problem. I'm waiting for a response from EZ.
How do you DM someone these days?
I thought it was go to profile & push the button, but as per Cougar's screenshot up there there appears to be no button?
Have tried several browsers disabling all plugins etc & private browsing...
Weird. I can't find any way of messaging
I had this issue yesterday. Googled it and managed to find a workaround - basically 'singletrackworld.com/user/[insert username]'
Bit of a ballache, but hopefully I'll have some cheap tyres on the way soon!
How do you DM someone these days?
I thought it was go to profile & push the button, but as per Cougar's screenshot up there there appears to be no button?
Have tried several browsers disabling all plugins etc & private browsing...
Weird. I can't find any way of messaging
I had this issue yesterday. Googled it and managed to find a workaround - basically 'singletrackworld.com/user/[insert username]'
Bit of a ballache, but hopefully I'll have some cheap tyres on the way soon!
But in the posting of my reply, I'd neglected to check the last page of this thread and missed the updates re. PM that Mark has given ...
The forum was stuck on old posts for about 20 hours yesterday and today.
I don't think that it's a browser problem; the same on Firefox and Chrome on Android
I didn't try it logged in though 🤔
Logged out I can't see anything newer than hardtailonly ^^ 210pm post.
@mark we've been here before; different lists logged in against logged out
Had a few timeouts replying to posts. 3 times to get the post to take on the 165mm cranks thread. Safari/Mac.
There is a tradeoff to be balanced between a fast website for users and effective cache. Cache memory is very fast but because it's cached memory (that is copies of pages that sit in the database) they are not the 'live' versions of the page. To get the very latest version fo a page it needs to come directly from the database of the website. That is slow (compared to a cached version). To deliver a live version fo every webpage to ever user we'd have to not cache anything. That would be extremely innificient and the site would quickly grind to a halt. So there is a trade off between fast website and up to date content. The site is running quite quickly now - ceratinly a lot quicker than it has in the last few months. The reason is largely to do with cache settings. The live version of the site is most critical to users of the forum - if you post a reply you expect it to be visible instantly. If youpost a reply and the page you see next is an old cached version you will assume your post failed. You might then try posting it again. The reality is both attempts would have made it to the database and the end result is a double post.
If you are logged in you get a live page from the database. If you are logged out you get a cached page that could be out of date. Previous to our current update the forum pages were cached for 6 minutes. This meant a pretty uptodate page for a logged out user. But the fact th ecache was being cleared every 6 minutes meant the server still had to work hard and the site performance wasn't great. It's currently set at around 24 hours. The site is fast and responsive but logged out users are getting old pages. The balance is somewhere in between and we'll hopefully find a nice sweet spot very soon.
So TLDR. If you are logged in you get live pages directly from the database. If you are logged out you get an older version of the page that will likely be out of date. But how out of date that is, we have control over but uptodate comes at the expense of site speed - so it's a game of optimisation.
There are other things we can and are doing, like optimising the database itself so that if it needs to be used by more people at once it can work efficiently. We are working hard to get the site running as efficiently as possible.
If you want to see the differenec between cached and non cached pages. Click around a few pages on the front of the site and notice how long it takes the page to appear. Then repeat that but logged out or in a private or incognito browser. One should be considerably quicker than the other. The quick one is a cached page.
Sorry Mark, I'm not sure as I follow this. Logged out users get high speed cached pages, logged in you get slower but more up-to-date ones? Is that right?
I Am Not A DBA and this is well out of my comfort zone so I don't have any solutions I'm afraid, but that feels like there must be a better way. Like, why are you flushing the cache at all rather than just letting it cache? It's going to be on its arse if you're rebuilding a cache for the entire site every six minutes, surely. I Am Not A DBA, don't listen to me.
Yes. Clearing cache every 6 minutes gives an uptodate looking forum to logged out users. But do they need to have that level of uptodate pages? It’s the logged in users that really need it. Which is why it’s now NOT 6 minutes.
it’s been running at 6 minutes for a long time.
my view is that logged in users are the priority users so we have extended the cache lifespan for forum pages to 24 hours.
I agree. 6 minutes was too generous.
important note that 6 minutes was only for the forum not the whole site. We have very different caching rules and tools for various parts of the site.
Has to be said the science of forum caching is far from simple.
Right, got it I think. Six minutes is (was) the TTL rather than a complete purge, then.
Sooo... shouldn't a cache miss be a database hit rather than a day-old page?
I Am Still Not A DBA, please still don't listen to me. I'm just spitballing.
Also,
Caching is not a science, it's a black art and one I do not envy in the slightest. I had to study this crap at University and it made me want to claw out my eyeballs.
Yes. A cache miss IS a database hit. Logged in users miss the cache. That’s deliberate. Logged in users always get the freshest page. The unavoidable effect of that is that is the slowest way to get a page. Cache is fastest but out of date.
fast page load
latest updated page
pick any one, as Mr Bontrager may put it 🙂
my view is that logged in users are the priority users so we have extended the cache lifespan for forum pages to 24 hours.
The problem with that is that potential new customers see a forum that doesn't change, if my experience is anything to go by, in any 24 hour period.
Why join anything, even for free, if it appears to be dead?
I wasn't logged in so the forum was WAY out of date, figured it was broken again so didn't log in.
Seems like every other day there's a change that no one knows about until someone reports it as a problem and it turns out to be a feature but only if you know about it.
As I have raised the (lack of) speed previously in this thread I thought it was only fair to comment that the forum seems to be a lot faster now when browsing different threads.
Posting is still a little slow but again improved.
Thanks for that.
@Nickfrog I still don’t get what you mean, you need to be a little more specific then it “it doesn’t work”.
Apologies I meant to reply to that but I don't visit very often for obvious reasons.
I will try and explain again:
ANY other forums I use (5 of them regularly but others occasionally so perhaps 12 in total) behave the same way: you click, it happens, instantly. The end.
BY CONTRAST, the only forum I have ever seen where things happen very differently is STW: you click, nothing happens, you have to wait various amounts of time from 10 seconds to infinite usually.
Now, my sample might be too small. Perhaps the only forums I use are the exceptions, but with the best will in the world it's really hard to believe.
So if someone can explain why STW is different from what every single other forum is like, that would be good.
I don't mind subscribing if it transforms the forum into a "normal" forum - but does it?
(I could wait but that would genuinely feel like the early days of the internet in the 90s).
As I said, if this forum was like a "normal" one, it would have so much more traffic but perhaps that's not the business model?
I think I've outlined the problems we face in this thread but the one big issue is the size of the database behind the forum. We have over 10 million posts in the database and they are all accessible. We close of topics to new posts after I think about 2 years.
If we launched the forum from scratch with no historical posts it would be lightning fast. The simple physical truth is that the larger the forum the larger the database and the longer it takes to add or read anything in that database. Other forums are quicker - I very much doubt they have 10 million posts to deal with. There are thousands of new posts every week and hundreds of new topics. That puts a load on a server that it has to deal with. Our server has 12 CPU to power it. Server costs run into the many thousands a year. Other faster forums may have multiple servers. I know Mumsnet has literally a server farm powering what they do. We have a single dedicated server running everything from the forum to our editorial, online shop, subscriptions, payment processing. It does a lot that is not forum related. I've said this before but if we were JUST a forum it would be easy. But we are NOT just a forum - that makes it hard.
A month ago we moved to a new server host. From Wordpress VIP to Kinsta. We are still working through the configurations of the new system and every day we make improvements. Subscribers get the best experience because they pay for it. The forum is one part of the subscription. We are constantly looking to make improvements but it all costs money. Maybe we won't get the improvements done before the money runs out. Maybe we will. But that's just economics. The forum is really important to what Singletrack does - but it's not the most important thing that Singletrack does as a business. We deal with what we can with the resources we have and that's been the same way we've done things for 25 years. That's something that many other media brands can't claim. We ARE doing something right in the fact we still literally exist. But that doesn't mean we are doing everything right and the priorities of certain user groups may not be the priorities of others and it's my job to balance those priorites against the money and resources we have.
I'm sorry the forum doesn't work as fast as other forums, but we aren't the same as those forums and our constraints and economics are not the same either.
Every day we work to make the site AND the magazine be the best we can make it. That doesn't equate to it being the best it can be but every day we make progress.
There appears to be two distinct profile pages at the moment, both of which you can edit the information on but neither seem to talk.
e.g. for me;
https://singletrackworld.com/participant/nixie/
https://singletrackworld.com/user/nixie/
On one I can see what threads other users are subscribed too which feels a little wrong! e.g. Mark's subscriptions https://singletrackworld.com/participant/mark/subscriptions/
The overlap is deliberate but temporary. The old profile was where the old Direct Messaging system lived. We are retiring that and the new profile will be the one you see when you click a username. The reason for the overlap is to simply allow any existing conversations that may have been ongoing to play out. That DM system was used in the classifieds for contact between buyers and sellers and so we don't want to just switch it off.
Ok, is that also why new conversations (sent via https://singletrackworld.com/participant/{username}/messages/) result in emails with links that say 'dont have permission' to read (or similar, this was mentioned by someone I tried to DM rather than directly experienced)
The recent 'goadfree' login system does not work for me on my phone (Samsung A54). It keeps saying incorrect password.
Instead I have to accept adverts and then once in the STW website go to the login page and log in there using the exact same information.
Though I do not always have to re-login it is odd and annoying when I forget the work around.
Apropos of nothing,
Search seems to work. I was looking for an old thread, my trusty "search this site" browser plugin failed and the embedded search returned what I was looking for.
Don't let it go to your heads.
There seems to be a problem with logging in. I tried several times on 2 different machines and did a hard refresh of the page but no joy. Then I tried using my email address rather than my user name and it worked. So, for anyone having problems and reading this (in about 5 hours time), try using your email address to log in.
How's "zero" work on a post count?
From https://singletrackworld.com/forum/off-topic/it-hurts-it-really-bloody-hurts/#post-10509781
There's plenty on that thread with apparently 0, 1, 2 post count who have obviously posted way more. One of them is mentioned in the OP.
A variation on caching for questions
I keep failing to log in first go. A big red banner pops up saying, "An error has been encountered. Probably page was cached. Please try again."
Invariably I log at the second attempt; this is the same on phone or PC.
Like other current "features", this is a repeat of an older problem on a previous forum version update
The danged Ad-Free pop up is danged annoying again. Im trying to log in on my PC, using the existing subscribers login here link, I enter my details on the page, it tells me there's an error in a red nlbox, but before I can read the red box, the adhfree pop up is back and the loop starts again.
It doesn't have to be this annoying and dysfunctional surely?
I can still post this from my phone, but fully expecting to be shut out here as well
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but messages aren't working atm, for me at least. I had an email notification of a message, but when I look in my message folder on here it's not showing?
Existing subscribers go to this page to login. Dont click the login on the CMP popup. That’s for subscribers to the adfree subscription service provided by AdFreePro.
https://singletrackworld.com/login
Log in failure as above takes a second attempt
still no skip to last page
loading times very slow again (chrome)
Does anyone know why are there 2 search links, each of which bring up totally different results?
Search forum and search website, i think. Forum one being the bottom one.
Probably been said before, but phone posting is awkward.
Usability of the forum is a real challenge for me with posts and especially edits on iOS 26. The positioning of things like the ‘quote’ button conflicts with the irritating move of iOS copy/cut/… dialogs to below selected text. 30% forum problem, 70% iOS problem imo.
Normal posting is bad enough. With the screen like this there’s not much space to manipulate the post or re-read a quote or earlier posts for reference. 
Search forum and search website, i think. Forum one being the bottom one.
Ah OK, thanks. Maybe this is something long standing members just know, but I didn't and it's certainly not going to be obvious to anyone not from around these parts. Would it make sense to combine them for simplicity and a cleaner interface? Or at least to label them for clarity if it's felt we genuinely need two?
It is arguably intuitive. The top menu is the website menu, the bottom menu is the forum menu. The search is that section, but I agree it isn't clear. The navigation on the forum has always been clunky. For example we have the "previous topic" and "next topic" buttons that are effectively useless but no button to take you back to the forum overview. Unfortunately nobody at stw actually uses the forum so nothing will change.
Free members should now be able to reply to private messages. As is typical it was a tck box unticked
_Please_ can we have the button to skip to the last message in the thread back? I'm fed up of having to scroll scroll scroll...
You don’t have the double arrow thingy next to the thread title?
Arrow at the end of the title takes me to the last page and last post...are you not seeing an arrow at the end of the thread title?
I do have the double arrow. Sometimes it goes to the last post as it should, but often (might be specific threads, e.g. old or big, I haven't investigated thoroughly because my perception is that there's a seemingly random component) it just goes to the first post on the last page of that thread.
The workaround used to be to hit the little button near the top of the thread to go to the last post, but a couple of weeks ago that button disappeared.
I *think* that the intended behaviour is that if we click on a thread title, then we're taken to the first post that we haven't yet read, and the double arrow should whizz to the last post. But neither of those work remotely consistently for me, and never have.
This is WPForo 2
We are currently testing 3.0 on our dev site. It looks very good so far. But lots of testing to do. It’s officially still in Beta so could still be some weeks before it’s ready to go live.
Trying to log-in on my laptop. I now get an ad pop-up Powered by UniConsent.
I can either Accept & Continue or Reject & Go ad-free.
I'd just like to log-in but to do so I think I have to accept tracking cookies (accept & continue) and then log-in.
Is there anyway not to do this so I don't accept tracking?
Posted this via my phone which was still logged in, but not sure of the best way to log-in on my laptop.
^^^^ Me too, but i suggest that pop-up isn't kosher. I somehow managed to get rid of it and logged in the normal way. I’m now going to change my password. 🤬
Is there anyway not to do this so I don't accept tracking?
If you bookmark the log-in page none of that shows up. 👍
Trying to log-in on my laptop. I now get an ad pop-up Powered by UniConsent.
I can either Accept & Continue or Reject & Go ad-free.
I'd just like to log-in but to do so I think I have to accept tracking cookies (accept & continue) and then log-in.
Is there anyway not to do this so I don't accept tracking?
To reiterate something I explained a few pages back, if you are an existing subscriber then you can simply click accept and then login as normal. As soon as you are logged in, all ad tracking scripts are removed from your browser. The fact you accept does not mean than you suddenly allow 900+ trackings scripts/cookies to invade your device. A cookie is placed only if an ad is shown. SO at most, if you accept, see few ads, you will have a few cookies on your device - not hundreds. I appreciate that for some, even one is too many. If you go direct to our login page> https://singletrackworld.com/login you will bypass the consent popup completely. Once logged in there's no ads and therfore no tracking scripts on the page. The only cookies that will be placed on your device are the ones we need to make the site function - like telling our site that you are a subscriber and remembering that you are logged in etc.
Once you are logged in your logged in cookie has an expiry setting of 1 year, which means you should stay logged in and shielded from the consent popup on that device. If you use Chrome and have a gmail account then there is a good chance that this logged in cookie will be copied across onto your other devices so that they can remember that you are logged in too.
If you don't have those settings enabled then you may find you need to login on your other devices too.
The consent cookie that is set when you click consent or otherwise on the popup also has an expiry setting of 1 year. Which means once your consent has been set you should not see the popup on that device for a year. There is also a little icon in the bottom left of the screen that links to your consent choices so you can change them at any time. Again, if you have cookie security set very high that may or may not be present.
If you clear out cookies or use any software that does that then you need to be aware that if you erase our Singletrack cookies then you will start from scratch when you next visit the site and you will need to login again.
My advice for subscribers who wish to avoid third party cookies is to bookmark the login url and cme to the site via that link.
Also, a reminder that subscribers should NOT click the login link in the popup consent form as that takes you to the AdAfree login system. That is NOT a Singletrack subscription login. You can subscribe to that if you wish for £15/year, which is less than half the price of our annual digital subscription. That subscription enables ad free access to our site but it does not include any Singletrack subscriptions benefits or paywall access.
That is NOT a Singletrack subscription login. You can subscribe to that if you wish for £15/year, which is less than half the price of our annual digital subscription. That subscription enables ad free access to our site but it does not include any Singletrack subscriptions benefits or paywall access.
I'll be honest Mark, that does sound attractive and I might be tempted* to consider it at the next renewal. That has got to be a real threat to your business model surely? I recently went from a print to a digital subscription, because I found the magazines were stacking up before I got around to having even a cursory read. I thought, "there's always the digital magazine for me to look at whenever", but tbh I haven't bothered since I changed to digital. My main interaction with STW is the forum and if I'm honest, I subscribe primarily to avoid the ads. The other "benefits" mostly don't interest me and I doubt I'm alone.
*In reality I probably won't, as I'd far rather the money went to a small, ethical business in Todmorden, than some faceless internet company. And because I want you guys to continue to make a living and for the forum to continue to be here in future. For many others though, making a decision purely on a purely financial basis, paying less than half of your subs to get an ad free experience is going to be very attractive is it not? Especially in the current financial climate where a lot of people are taking a very close look at all those discretionary monthly subscriptions for leisure activities which soon accrue.
Is there another ad provider which doesn't risk poaching your subscribers in such a blatant way?
Thanks for the support - your commenst are appreciated.
Pricing wise - I've designed the Singletrack subs prices carefully to ensure that our margins are preety much equivalent between digital and print. So, there's no need to worry about which one is best for us. Just pick the one that is best for you.
As for the new sub provided by AdFree via our consent popup, we get the majority of tha tcash less the VAT element - Because it's a digital service and not tied to a media publication (You get our journalism as a core aspect of our Singletrack subscriptions - magazine access, paywall etc.) the AdFree only sub means we have to add 20% VAT on top. So that £15 you pay is only worth £12.50 to us. There are some fees to be deducted but we get the lions share of it. I'm still not happy with the text and how obvious (it's not) it is to existing Singletrack subscribesr that they should click the link and login as normal - but that's not something I can edit for here - I have to wait for those changes to happen and it's a pretty glacial process.
TLDR
Pick the sub that is right for you. As far as we are concerned we are developing the site for the principal benefit of our subscribers. New features in the pipeline will most likely be released to Singletrack subscribers first, including forum developments (Google WPForo.3.0 for a heads up there).
My advice, if you just want to use the forum without ads then pick the ADFree sub. BUT, there are already features of forum use that only Singletrack subscribers can access and there are more of those coming. That's not me trying to market anyone into a Singletrack subscription - it's honestly what we are working on.
If you want to future proof your forum use and you want to make sure that 20% of your sub payment doesn't go in VAT to the tax man, then a Singletrack sub is the way to go.
Ah, so you get most of that £15, I thought it all went to the ad provider. No so bad then! I'll continue with my digital subscription for the foreseeable. I'm glad you get as much from that as from a print sub 👍
I'm glad you get as much from that as from a print sub
ahhh..... i didnt know this. i never read the mag these days but have a full print sub thinking that its best for stw. i may as well just go digital only then come renewal time and save a very small part of a very small tree 😀
So now I can't even try to PC log-in through the subscriber link, that screen appears and then this pop-up blocks everything....even if I I disabled ad- lockers it just keeps appearing
This really really doesn't need to be so hard to sort does it?
is that Brave browser you are using?
if so it’s blocking ads by default. You can deactivate that for our site by clicking the shield icon in the address bar.
Could you not make the clickable link in subscribed thread e-mail alerts go to to the post in question instead of the current palaver of having to find a way to get to the latest post in the thread, made doubly annoying by the replacement of the 'latest post by...' link with the referral code thing. The dog thread, for example, has more than 20 pages, but the link simply takes you to the first page with no clear way of reaching the more recent post without going back out to forum latest.
Ignore this, I can't read.
To reiterate something I explained a few pages back, if you are an existing subscriber then you can simply click accept and then login as normal. As soon as you are logged in, all ad tracking scripts are removed from your browser. The fact you accept does not mean than you suddenly allow 900+ trackings scripts/cookies to invade your device.
Thanks. That was all I needed to know but I appreciate the detail 👍
Sorry if you are having to re-post stuff, but I don't dip into this thread very often & I didn't really fancy trawling through pages of info on the off-chance of finding something that might be relevant.
Trying to click the big X to close any of the pop up advert seems to load it anyway and open a new window. Once or twice I can imagine I’m fat fingered but happened consistently.
is that Brave browser you are using?
if so it’s blocking ads by default. You can deactivate that for our site by clicking the shield icon in the address bar.
No, I'm using Firefox. I have turned off everything, turned off the enhanced protection in the shield icon, opened in a non-facebook container tab, and deleted all my cookies, and still i just get that pop up. I click the accept button and it just pops up again.
Seems to work on chrome, but i tend not to use that for socials, just work related.
Bizarre.
It's actually good because it's meaning i am using the forum less out of frustration, and weaning myself off
I think i've realised what the problem is - I have been using a link on my new tab page that takes me to the forum, and because i am not logged in, the AdFree popup appears. There is no way for me to click the subscribers click here link cos the big pop up appears. Only searching back in this thread for the usual log-in page allows me to actually log-in. Maybe you need to redesign the pop-ups so it takes you to an option for subscribers to log-in or sign up for ads or something.
Messages for classifieds. Arrrgghh. Cannot see DMs via either SW website on Edge browser or Chrome.
Someone sends a message, it appears, I reply. It's gone forever.
Where are the messages please? I need to contact a purchaser but have no idea/way to do so. Can't use the 'workaround' above as I don't know the username of the purchaser.
I'm not sure if this is new, i suspect something to do with the adverts or a particular type of advert, but first time I've been using my phone + earbuds (android, not apple if it makes any difference) for a while so first time I've experienced it. I'm browsing STW on Chrome and listening to streaming at the same time, and the sound keeps dropping and then increasing, and then dropping and then increasing. It makes it unlistenable.
I don't often travel on trains and hence use the earbuds, but I don't think it's anything to do with the streaming because in the car when I'm not browsing STW (obvs) it doesn't do it. And browsing other sites, including other advert laden ones doesn't seem to make it happen. I can't claim to have tried every other site but is this unique to STW?
What is going on with the bot verification, it comes up every time and then returns to the same page with all the text gone, all except this time. Does it operate on an initial assessment then one allowed it won't do it again for a while?
@Mark the ad-block pop-up seems to be somewhat random on Android/Firefox
If the thread is one that takes an age to load, eg Ukraine, then it pops up several times.
If I persist then eventually it settles down, without me changing any browser settings.
Shorter threads don't lag and trigger the pop-up
Is this linked to the speed of an individual thread, which slows the ads down and is detected as ad-blocked?
Update - apparently it is at random now with the verification. Using Firefox with no vpn and I might as well not bother using the site to post now. Have to copy the text just in case to then repost when it fails
The other thing that's really annoying is the site going back to the top of the thread index every time you've read a thread.
I used to be able to go back to the thread index and land where I'd left to easily scroll down to the next thread. Not any more 🙄
I see that DMs has changed / changing ?
I cant see any envelopes etc and when I go to messages I get
You do not have permission to view this page
Mark et al is busy with the messaging system, I get the odd test message. Hopefully be the new one is in soon, it seems much slicker.
On Chrome, I'm not seeing the latest posts on threads, compare to Opera.
For example in this thread, Opera see's Drac's post at 1302 today, Chrome shows the latest post being fazzini's post at 1708 yesterday!
There is a very detailed explanation for that https://singletrackworld.com/forum/bike-forum/the-new-forum/paged/42/#post-13717050
Well adFree refunded my payment because I was having so many issues with it, I don't know if anyone else has gone down that route and finding it ok.
A bit like Susepic I have been weaned off the site with the problems and trying out other forums as alternatives. They just work and they are so fast. I know the story about the linking of various functionality on this site but as a 'forum' user...
Messages for classifieds. Arrrgghh. Cannot see DMs via either SW website on Edge browser or Chrome.
Someone sends a message, it appears, I reply. It's gone forever.
Where are the messages please? I need to contact a purchaser but have no idea/way to do so. Can't use the 'workaround' above as I don't know the username of the purchaser.
Me too, I can see the notifications but not the messages. Also discussing a purchase...
From reading the above, are some users on the 'new' system of messages, and some on the 'old'? I managed to message a user ( @onehundredthidiot ) about a FS item using the 'message' link on https://singletrackworld.com/user/onehundredthidiot/ he seems to have tried to reply, and I get a link in the email notification of the reply to https://singletrackworld.com/participant/onehundredthidiot/messages/121 where I get an error 'You do not have permission to view this page'
Does he then need to try and message back at https://singletrackworld.com/user/submarined ? It's kind of rendering the classifieds unusable at the mo as I can't contact any users. 🙁