I'm a Soul fanboy - but last night it went to another level.
I fitted a set of Hope Hoops on Crest rims, running fully tubeless with Schwalbe R.Ralphs, and the difference was a revelation.
Not only does the bike feel silly light for a steel frame, the front end now feels so light (Reba SL 120's, Maxle) that im able to flick it about and avoid tricky little obstacles without virtually any effort.
Also, the trail suddenly gives so much feedback that im instantly getting more confidence on grip levels.
Not to mention more feeling when grip is about to give on steep climbs.
In all, I was honestly startled how different the bike felt from something I was already very pleased with, it felt like I was cheating last night.
I have run tubeless before on Mavic rims with cheaper hubs using a conversion kit, and really enjoyed the difference despite the faff in getting to grips with inflation - so im not sure if how much of the improvement comes from the new Stans rims alone, but either way - im not looking back.
Tubeless Souls absolutely rock.
I switched to tubeless on my Soul last weekend. There did seem to be a marginal improvement in rolling resistance, can't say I noticed any huge grip improvement, but I was probably running a little bit higher PSI than usual, will be letting more out to see how low I can go. The front wheel did wash out on me [probably due in part to rider error as much as anything], resulting in a comedy dismount.
Can't claim it as a revelation for me just yet, more experimentation required.
I run same but with RoRos (160mm rotor), someone picked up my front wheel and said "that's cheating" then they heft the frame and say "wow light for a steel bike".
It's a lot of fun to ride.
To widen another Soul love-in thread a little, the other night I swapped QR Reba 120's for Revelation 140 20mm maxle. Now[i]that[/i]was cheating was my conclusion. Night and day difference.
i will just ref my previous Simple love in thread
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/thank-you-cy-cotic-simple-content
not tried tubless yet though..
The front wheel did wash out on me
same happened to me on a hairpin bend, not enough air pressure and soft sidewalls (non UST tyres) to blame on my part.
im going to switch to tubless ready schwalbe's and hopefully the extra weight won't alter the feel too much
not tried tubless yet though..
I wholeheartedly recommend. combined with a lightweight tyre, it felt like a brand new bike all over again
im goign to switch to tubless ready schwalbe's
Let us know how you get on please, I've read the TLRs can be hard to get on a Crest.
I get washout but I put that down to the tyres being fairly fast (lightly treaded) and I ride them in all conditions.
I run my RoRos about 20ish psi front, 25ish back. The back feels squidgy with less.
Can't claim it as a revelation for me just yet, more experimentation required.
as I mentioned I have run tubelss on the Soul before but with a conversion kit.
Im wondering if the lack of rubber rim strip and lighter rim (Crest) has contributed most to the silly light feel?
It certainly didnt feel heavy before, but its borderline [i]too[/i] light now. Front just flicks up in the air with very little input.
lovely.
I have a Soul with a 140 fork, and tubeless crests. I can concur with all the above, it's GREAT
Let us know how you get on please
sure.
I would keep the non UST Ralphs on but being a heavy rider I have to put too much air in them to make them work at high speed.
I suppose I should mention, I'm running a Super Tacky High Roller out front with a 130mm coil Vanilla and a 2.0 MudX on back on Pro II Evo/Stans Flow. Weight feels OK, hope to lighten the front a little when my 120 TALAS arrives at some point this week.
for balance, I enjoy my Soul but other steel HTs are available and no doubt just as much fun to ride 🙂
been running tubeless on my soul for 3 years. can't say it made any difference to tubes at all.
Just picked my Simple up from the powder coaters this morning.
This time next week it'll be introduced to a carbon fork 🙂
(there was a huge difference switching to tubeless, though this could have been the previous tyres being shagged)
other steel HTs are available and no doubt just as much fun to ride
i've ridden about a dozen other steel hardtails, I love steel. but i've never found a more complete hardtail.
im certainly biased though, orange is my fave colour.
I like to change my kit as much as the next fickle MTBer.. when I stop on the trail and look down at my bike, I honestly think to myself ''I couldn't ask for more''
it's nice to meet a happy man, good on 'ya
Just picked my Simple up from the powder coaters this morning.
I bought and sold a Simple frame recently without the chance to try it out (cash flow issues), gutted really. I love my 853 Inbred S/S, but if the Simple is as good as the Soul (no reason it shouldnt be), then im sure it would have abeen a blast too
I am feeling the love. My next frame is looking more and more like a Soul. 8)
I love my tubeless setup, same wheels as you but with the sticky nevegal and blue groove. Run mid 20s and it sticks to everything.
Would like to try something lighter with less rolling resistance though, racing Ralphs might be the ones.
Further to my last post, I went down to Glentress today and was absolutely Godlike [by my own standards]. 😀
Huge grip but able to break the rear free on demand. My local trails are more XC, less gravity oriented than Glentress. But tubeless just felt, [i]right[/i]. Can't quite put my finger on it...
Well this looks like a done deal then given this thread and the one I started a couple of days ago after the pain of trying to replace tubes on my Stans - conversion to tubeless it is then.
Recent conversion to soul from aluminium HT = happy camper. Then a switch to Flow rims with LUST maxxis options for dead easy changing and lower pressures =VERY happy camper! Corrugated downhills at speed are now so much smoother thanks initially to frame but added to with tyre change....grip noticeably better with the lower pressures and again takes the edge off the rough stuff....much appreciated by an ageing derrière spine and wrists!