They are pretty big - dead comfy though. And a proper pain to fit onto my Stans Flow rims. The new folding version are £50 rrp though - for a fairly heavy slick!!!
At last snow..............well that was a good day....
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At last snow..............well that was a good day....
You're not wrong there
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A Mukluk! How's the rear traction in that soft snow?
heee! another!, its great eh? 😉 😮
coastkid that 9 zero 7 looks great - where did you get it?
Don't think I'll ever be a fatty, but loved your vid Coastkid. Makes me want to start planning adventures for next year.
I Havent ordered it yet,made myself a deal to shift all the old stuff first 😮 but heres the link; its Chain Reaction Cycles Alaska,no relation to here in Ireland, [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.us/907.html ]9zero7 fatbike frame & rims[/url]
Cheers - that was the site I found, and yes I thought it was the same lot at first 😆
I don't like 9zero7 frames' looks. Salsa is so much prettier.
FRC - It's fanstastic in todays snow. Tomorrows ride on the frozen snow and ice might be a different story.
It feels very stable in the snow and sand over "our" other bike but with 50% more weight
If I could work out how to install the bl**dy software that would allow me to download pics from my Nokia phone, I'd post pics...........
Couldn't believe how good it was in snow. Sooo stable, no drama, overtook cars, going over to ,Leigh Woods, good on slush as well. Brill...........
I made a wee film mid week after work on a summer evening 2 summers ago on a local trail mounting a compact camera above the pugsley front tyre...
The film caused a massive interest in a bike with a tyre that "ate the world" as an American described..looks like one day i may make another film (Larrycam?) with another fatbike in front 😮
im amazed at the UK interest 😮 but its all good...
bought a tap and dye set today ......
home made 165mm rear hub coming right up - just need to find a donor 135 36 hole with an alloy axel i can tap ....
found an old hope big un axel to canibalise for a spacer ...
drill it enough to allow the bolt to go through the axel
counter sink the other side to let it slide over the axel
tap hub axel
long bolt through the lot ....
then long spacers on the disk mount
it wont be pretty but ive seen it done back in the olden days on my 98 big uns and on my mr big st 10
MrTall - OMM racks will certainly fit a 2.5inch tyre (I have one fitted to a Pugsley 100mm spaced fork) and I'd expect even the superfat Surly snow tyres would fit - have a look at:
http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=category&category_id=35
Must admit I'm getting a bit fatbike curious 😳
I'm confused about the rear hub is it 135 or 165mm? If its 135 it would take an Alfine, correct?
Need to have a look/try of your fat bike terry. 😉
There's loads of different "standard" rear spacings on different fatbikes.
t_r, I have a big_un with the bolt-thru setup. How would you make it into a 165mm? Curious as it might allow me the Salsa frame not a Pugsley (prettier and lighter). Thanks!
You do know you can run a 135mm hub in the Salsa with there adaptor don't you?
I was wondering if that adaptor would fit other frames as it would save the faff and expense of a new hub and keep the front and rear wheels interchangeable, even though Salsa say it needs a wheel dished 17.5mm to driveside. I'm also a bit concerned at the additional strain this would put on the chain/seatstay area (if any) but it's late and my brain is starting to hurt thinking about it!
No, I didn't. I was just wondering if it were possible to use that hub with a bolt-through and a tubular washer to space it to 165 when I noticed the bodge/fix. I'm wondering if the offset rear wheel built on a Big'Un, due to the inherited strength of the hub, was strong enough for the rather large 17.5mm offset? You know, all the talk about spokes being very loose on a non-drive side.
MrTall,
Front racks are Old Man Mountain Cold Springs, fitted both front and rear. Made custom lower brackets to get them to fit as I wanted, i.e. lower. Choose these because they have a "rugged" look and add (I think!) to the overall look of the Pugsley. More [url= http://www.pugsley-on-patrol.org.uk/equipment/racks.htm ]here[/url]
The mudguards are actually those used on trial motorcycles here in the UK. The rear was made from two spliced together. Mounting brackets were fashioned from some aluminium flat bar. There work well but do not stop everything. They would work better if longer but then they catch on bushes, rocks, etc, so a bit of a compromise. More [url= http://www.pugsley-on-patrol.org.uk/equipment/mudguards.htm ]here[/url]
Gary
http://www.pugsley-on-patrol.org.uk
http://www.youtube.com/user/garybuckham
I Guess you`ve looked out the window this morning Gary? 😮
Yes, just about to have a wee coffee first, then break open the shed and ready the Pugsley. Might wait a while for it to get a but deeper, then the left-over hard-pack from last time should be easier to ride across. May take the Go Pro and make a vid.
Gary
Is there anywhere you can actually just buy a set of fat wheels? As I don't have the skills / time to build any.
RN, neither do I but... lace them up ant take to LBS for a quick spoke key dance. Or talk to CRC, they might do it (they built my regular wheels and I've had nothing but praise for them).
It does seem to be a problem as most of the 'fat guys' seem to be able to build a wheel without a second thought (and have personal engineering workshops 🙂 Not sure about the UK but a Surly dealer should be able to get Pugsley wheels...eventually and there are plenty ready built wheels in the USA.
[url= http://forums.mtbr.com/search.php?searchid=10037986 ]MTBR wheel link[/url]
Alternatively source the rims/hubs you want and any decent wheelbuilder or shop will build them up for you. [url= http://www.sandmanbikes.com/ ]Sandman Bikes[/url] will also be doing wheel and parts options soon. I ended up buying 2 rear wheels with trials rims for my 1/2 fat but you would need a different axle for the rear depending on what fat frame you have or are going to buy.
Woody, if the rear wheel for a Salsa needs to be offset and for a Surly doesn't, how will a different axle allow the same wheel to be used? Curious as I'm undecided as to what frame I will buy but would love to get cracking with the wheels.
Hairychested
I'm probably the wrong person to ask as it was doing my head in last night and I'm at the point where I'm going to go back to scratch and try and work it all out again. I'm looking at the Sandman Atacama which is non-offset but 165mm axle, so it would need an adaptor similar to the Salsa one to make the wheels interchangeable.....but how would that affect it if it was non-offset.....? aaaaagh!
Coastkid et al have been up and running with this for ages and I'm still at the point where I have just finished my 1/2 fat without any of these problems, so they will be able to give you a proper answer from their experience...hopefully. Might help me understand it better too.
I'm starting to get the bug what with all the snow and living near the beach/sand dunes it wouldn't be a clothes horse in the summer.
Been looking at these... [url= http://viciouscycles.com/frames-thunderwing.php3 ]CLICKY[/url]
Right....coffee and a fag later my head has stopped spinning!
I was getting confused as the Pugsley has 135mm rear hub spacing which is offset 17.5mm. This means that front and rear wheels are interchangeable with the Pugsley offset fork but wouldn't work with my Surly fork as it is 135mm non-offset.
Mukluk has the option of 170mm non-offset or 135mm 17.5mm offset with adaptor.
So, forgetting wheel interchangeability (only possible on the Surly as both wheels have same offset/axle length) you could build your rear as 135mm with 17.5mm offset and that would work with either frame but would need the adaptor for the Mukluk. Doesn't really help you much until you decide which frame and fork option to go for!
I can't afford either at present 😀
My thinking is to get the wheels so automatically it'll stop my frame-related headaches.
I like the Pug as it's steel and SS, but Salsa is so pretty. I know it's unmanly to admit it but I do care what my bike looks like. The other thing is I want it to last for years so it'll be a singlespeed. The idea of two rear wheels with different cogs makes sense of some sort I suppose.
Choices, choices, too many of them.
At least you know that you'll need a 100mm bottom bracket but will it be isis, sq.taper, external.......... [img] /confused-smiley-17425.gif[/img]Choices, choices, too many of them.
Kalahari is steel and with custom options - Atacama is ali with custom options
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half fat is a world apart from even a wide downhill tires .....
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built that while waiting for my rear hub for the sandman to come out of the postal service ether
its night and day - did a direct comparison with my merida race bike on the same terrain .... pushed the merida most of the way round .... the even hills dont phase that beast - just floats away ... got a 2.5 tioga white tiger on the rear and upfront is a larry on a 100mm arctic cycles rim in a sandman fork !
if full fat is even quarter as good again ill be impressed - not sure if i want to go SS on the fat bike though - 1 x 9 maybe
oh and yes thats a ragley TD-1 with a pair of 26 inch wheels in it .....
havnt been bothered to strip down and rebuild the rear wheel so just stuck on the fattest tire i could find !
i think i will have a spare 100mm FSA isis bb as i have a 100mm taperlock left over from my DH days ....
all going well i want to use that with some blue turbines i bought 😀
Intereesting TR - I can see my expt (2.5" tyre & 50mm rim on front to start) prob won't tell me much about even half fat riding.
I don't think I'd go singlespeed on a fat bike - surely you want maximum versatility and some going will be hard and slow.
yeah we will see
i was running a 2.5 mud tire on a dt5.1 on my thorn and it was pathetic compared to that larry on 100mm rim
that has a rohloff - although the cables aint connected as i need to nip to the shop for new inners - 8mm spanner shifter it is
My folks appear to have a bit more snow than you TR - they reckon 14"-16 in the past 2-3 days.
Dibs if you sell the isis bb - my finger was hovering on [url= http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230557939399&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT ]THIS ONE[/url] last night
thats the south side of my house ..... its sheltered by the house and shed and neighbours house .....
its been thunder snow all morning- its falling like balls of polystyrene ! havnt had the car near the house since i got home !
If not singlespeed, what's the point in having two wheels you could swap? Which is the really appealing option the Surely has.
BTW How much are the Sandman frames and do they come in more civilised colours than your white/orange/etc bike? Plain is good 🙂
restlessnative
For pre built pugsley wheels try highintensitybike.com. They're in America but would probably get you the wheels quicker than you could get hold of them in the uk.
Thought about it 😉
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That's a proper fat tyre 😀
It's not my Sandman just a couple that Conrad (Sandman) sent over as examples. He should have his website up and running soon with build options so you can spec. whatever you want.
from email "[i]In januari production will start on a batch of complete Gobi bikes, available by the end of that month. Those bikes will be spec'ed "high end": Hope, XO, Race Face, Joplin seatpost...
Apart from that we'll offer loose frames in the 4 versions: Gobi (light alu), Atacama (normal alu), Kalahari (Steel) and Outback (alu tandem). You'll be able to tick off a whole list of options: rack bosses, number of bottle cage studs, type of headset, EBB option for single speed, standard colours or special paint, any special wishes...[/i] "
[url= http://www.sandmanbikes.com/ ]Sandman Bikes[/url]
Prices for frame will be around 500 Euro for the Kalahari, Atacama a bit less and Gobi a bit more. Not bad for what is pretty much a custom frame.
