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BTW Bonesetter, not normally a supporter of the big S, but the Specialized Slaughter is a great rear tyre.
Slaughter works well in the rear
Can't fault it on the bone dry woods trails last few rides, which are the only conditions it has seen so far
It's a heavier and sturdier tyre to most I have used in Stooge's rear, and the stoutness of the wall is a good thing - gives a sense of snug and resilience, which I think is the take away impression
Rolls well and hooks up on everything
The Enve fork will work perfectly with it
the Enve fork is tapered only isn't it? Is it a 44 mm headtube?
Is it a 44 mm headtube?
Ti is.
I spent the weekend throwing mine down Antur Stiniog Downhill Trails, was a blast I had both trail and DH bikes there if I fancied but rode the Stooge all weekend absolutely loved it!
Just put a rabbit hole rear on my brothers stooge, fitted a maxxis ikon 2.35 and there is probably 2mm either side
I see earlier in the thread someone had a 2.4 ardent on RH, do they size up small?
i believe the ikon is a big 2.35, even more so when on a rabbit hole. I think you'd certainly have the same problem with a 2.4 ardent. I'be been running a Specialized slaughter recently on a Dually with lots of space to spare, it's a great tyre. If you fancied an Ardent, stick to the 2.2, it'll still fill out very nicely on the Surly rim.
Thanks for the info
What size rotors are people running on their stooge's?
Avid bb7 with 180 front and rear
203/183 E4's
SLX 160/160
203/185
Dunno if the guys, Andy and ? that I met at Twentyfour12 this evening are on here or not. But on the off chance they'll see it, thankyou for entertaining my interest and for Andy letting me have a pootle on his Stooge around the car park.
Even though it was only a car park test, I get it. It felt fun and as agile as it could for a carpark test, well I could easily lift the front...need to try one off road now...or just order one...
Cheers
Justin
The big question now is when the new batch will arrive and be ready for delivery.
they arrived in the UK yesterday (friday) so should be with me in about a week. I'll be adding photos and details to the website as soon as they're good to go.
Please take my money and let one go soon.
CTBM is selling a MK1 cheap
what's the differences mark 1 to mark 2?
Mark 2 is full 29+ I believe, and a different colour
It's not full + in the rear
A Vee fits, and a 29 2.4 Ardent
bonesetter - Member
It's not full + in the rearA Vee fits, and a 29 2.4 Ardent
When you say the Vee fits, do you mean the 27.5x2.8 or 29x3 Vee?
frames are here, i just need to get some photos taken and then there'll be pics on the website and facebook, but in a nutshell the Stooge blue will be continuing and there are 2 colours limited to 30 each - magenta and pale olive (which is more like grey with a tinge of green to it).
re rear tyre size - the one comment i got on the first frame was that some 2.4 tyres were a bit too close for comfort, so with that in mind i've upped the clearance and the frame will now take a Dirt Wizard29x3 and a Vee 29 x 3 on anything up to a 50mm rim. The knard is a little too close on a rabbit hole, though may well fit on a P35, i'll be trying that out over the weekend. The frame also has clearance for B+ in any size up to a 3.25. So is it 29+, yes, and no. Hope that helps.
Jonestown, can you still run a double or has it gone in order to fit the larger wheel size?
I am glad about the tyre sizes, especially the 27+ option. I would like it still to have a front mech option, but please get those pictures taken!
Looking for a new rear tyre for the Stooge. Thinking Nobby Nic 2.3. Anyone tried this?
Tried a 2.4 Chunky Monkey. Better grip in mud and wet stuff, but less than 5mm clearance to chain stays
How wide have you gone on the rear?
My current rim is 19mm so tyre will be held narrow.
Thanks
I'm running a Ground Control 2.3 on a Flow EX rim. Works well, but I couldn't go any bigger.
Specialized Slaughter
Looking for a new rear tyre for the Stooge. Thinking Nobby Nic 2.3. Anyone tried this?
Tried a 2.4 Chunky Monkey. Better grip in mud and wet stuff, but less than 5mm clearance to chain stays
How wide have you gone on the rear?
there's about an extra 7mm each side, you'll get the 2.4 Chunky Monkey on now without an issue. The 29+ is tight but acceptable, though the idea was to create extra clearance for the larger 2.4s. A 35mm rim would be preferable on the back with the plus tyres. B+ has acres of space.
There's still plenty of room to run 2x on the front, though i have removed the front cable routing, mainly because i only know of one person who ran a front mech on the first frames. easily solvable with a Problem Solver band-on direct mount adapter and some creative use of the tiny plastic cable guides you can get.
Photos should be going up tomorrow night 🙂
BTW, my favourite rear tyre at the moment is the Slaughter 2.3 by Spec, really fast, really grippy.
Just back from clocking up my first 1000km on the Stooge, since building it at the beginning of July. Looking forward to the next few...
Had a great photo shoot of the new frames today, it'll be a few days before i'll see the results but the frames are now live on the website so can at last be purchased.
Tyre size - having played around with a few rim and tyre combos today i've come full circle and settled back on the 2.3 29er. it now has acres of mud clearance with this tyre, so the biggest 2.4 and 2.35 tyres will now work great. The Vee 29x3 fits with limited clearance on a Dually but rides fine, no doubt a 35mm rim would be the choice, but the geometry works so much better with the big front/smaller rear combo, it just rails so much better. There's plenty of clearance for B+ in all sizes and if you wanted to go semi-fat on the back this is the size i would recommend, keeps the geometry correct and spins up a whole load faster than 29x3. The Dirt Wizard will be a perfect front tyre for the winter or any time of the year but the massive side knobs are cutting the clearance too fine on the back, especially when you take mud into account.
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Magenta? Olive?
WHere's my candy apple red?
Surely there is enough of us that have them built that we should start a 'show us your Stooge' thread?
If you start it, we will probably all pile in...
frames are here, i just need to get some photos taken and then there'll be pics on the website and facebook, but in a nutshell the Stooge blue will be continuing and there are 2 colours limited to 30 each - magenta and pale olive (which is more like grey with a tinge of green to it).Hurry up and make a large for pete's sake!
Any Stooge builds using 2x11 on 135mm rear with 29.5x2.8 tires?
Thinking of using the Shimano M8000 groupset.
Any chain line alignment problems that need a work around?
Front derailleur top or side pull?
I'm running 29x2.35 Nobby Nic on the rear and that has only about 3-4mm clearance to the chain stays and similar to the front derailleur. I don't think 2.8 will fit
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Any Stooge builds using 2x11 on 135mm rear with 29.5x2.8 tires?
assume you actually mean 27.5 x 2.8, in which case, yes, it will fit the gen 1 frame fine, the gen2 frame will take a full 3.25 with lots of clearance.
As far as i know, the new 11 speed shimano uses a standard chainline with the option to spec for boost, so should work fine.
this is sods law - i have front mech cable routing on the first frame and no-one used them, so i remove them and now everyone wants front mech routing 🙂 it's still possible, a problem solvers direct mount adapter.
Hurry up and make a large for pete's sake!
This is not a spoon, how tall are you?
It's a bit misleading to think of the Stooge as a medium, it has an 18" seatmast, but everything else is sized a bit differently. To give you an idea, i'm 6' and run mine with a 50mm stem and an inline post. I started with 90, went down to 70, and have ended up like this. If your legs aren't mahoosively long then you might be surprised. Obviously if you're 6'5 it's a no go, but there's plenty of 6'2 people out there and the fit is fine. Obviously i wouldn't be so daft as to suggest one size really does fit all, but it's a lot better than most. It's economy of scale for me at the moment, i'm one man with a garage full of frames and very limited resources, if you fancied a larger ti one that would be a different story 😉 I have full 29+ and regular 29er ti frames up an running, i should probably think about advertising the fact one of these days.
Had my first ride out on my new Stooge yesterday and noticed how well the Chronicle flicks up grit when it gets a bit sticky!
What are people using for mudguards - does the [url= http://www.muckynutz.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=50&product_id=154 ]Mucky Nutz Face Fender[/url] or Mudhugger fit ok? Any suggestions for the rear..?
Hurry up and make a large for pete's sake!
This is not a spoon, how tall are you?
Could you at least put reach/stack figures on the geo chart, or identify the effective seat angle you used to calculate the effective top tube. Kind of hard to compare when its a bent seat tube. I guess looking at it you designed it so the rider is sat right over the back wheel?
I'm 6' 4" with a 35" inseam, run a lay back Ti seat post and 80mm stem with Jones Bend bars...
I would go with a test ride rather than looking at figures on a piece of paper, that would give you a far better idea 😉
I'm 6' 4" with a 35" inseam, run a lay back Ti seat post and 80mm stem with Jones Bend bars...I would go with a test ride rather than looking at figures on a piece of paper, that would give you a far better idea
Id definitely not buy one if i test rode yours, hate jones bars! No chance to test ride much near me and dont drive so numbers is all i have.
Id definitely not buy one if i test rode yours, hate jones bars! No chance to test ride much near me and dont drive so numbers is all i have.
Where are you located?