Read the blurb, watched the video, looks good but anyone on here use one?
your thoughts?
I like the idea of running 1x9/10 without faffing about wuth guides, etc....possible?
thanks in advance
JB
Been a few months but likewise interested.
Did you get any further with it, tried it out, or anyone else done so?
With or without a guide, and looking for opinions of both use with 1x10 and also 2x10, on a full sus bike that is.
I ran an Xo as a 1x10 without a front chain catcher.
it still dropped the chain but the small amount of occasion chain wobble/slap went away.
not impressed so went to a regular XX rear mech and a chain catcher for the best of both works.
Actually, DK, have you considered a chain catcher? If your chain always falls off on the inside, might be enough and they're cheap enough to just try out.
I've been running one for a few rides, maybe 10 or so. I'm running 2x10 with 22/36/Bash on the front and was previously running a standard X9 mech and an E13 DRS. When I fitted the type 2 mech I removed the DRS roller and backplate but kept the bash ring. The bike is just as quiet through rough sections and much quieter to pedal with the DRS off and the chain seems to be staying in place fine so far.
Something like this? http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/product/review-k-edge-chain-catcher-10-37404
Probably does the same job as the Jump Stop I've got on my hard tail. That kind of works but occasionally it's managed to force the chain past and under the stop even when tight up next to the chainring. Weird but forces applied when chains suck/jam can be strong.
Chain Catcher wouldn't stop it jumping off outward though? Can't get a bash ring on my X0 2x10 (thanks to it being the 26/39 proprietary annoying 120bcd version), and my 1x10 options if I go for it limit the chances for a bash also (those options being if I want to keep the nice carbon cranks).
If/when I go 1x10 though, already got an e.13 TRS+ Single guide for it. I don't mind noise on the pulley, though the key part of the guide really is the top guide. But then if a clutch gizmo would mean I can do without entirely or maybe run it without the pulley, that's an option.
I reckon with the clutch type mech you'd be ok with the just the top part of a guide and no pulley for 1x but you'll only find out by trying it. A proper full tooth profile single front ring is a must. All I can tell you for certain is that it almost elminates chain slap and it will be a big help with chain retention.
I have one on my, oh so unfashionable, 3x10 set up. My previous, standard mech decided to migrate into the spokes on a rather nice but rutted downhill and did a good job of tearing itself and the wheel to bits.
Now that the Type 2 is on there I can't say I notice it. It cost me an extra ten quid but It hasn't committed hara kiri like the last one. It's also worth saying that the lock out function for slackening the chain to remove the wheel is great.
Im running a short cage x9 with clutch on a 1 x 10 set up. I have a top guide on the chainring for security. Never list the chain yet and it's nice and quiet. It's also had no maintenance from me in the 6 weeks I've been running it and is still faultless!
I bought one and have been running it with just a top guide only. Seems to work fine. So impressed that I bought another.
For that bike I am waiting for a Paul's Chain guide from the States for the front. Went out last night for a potter with no front guide and the chain did not fall off but I wouldn't trust it. Think that you need a top guide unless you are on very smooth ground. Don't think you need a bottom guide unless you are racing when dropping a chain is really stressy.
Really think they are a relatively cheap and simple improvement. Silent running is such a pleasure for saddos like me.
Not into racing, though enjoy some rough terrain. Generally trail/AM sort of stuff generally, but the odd spot of DH. Not big hitting, but the other week at Stiniog the chain was off almost every single run over the rocks. Not that a chain is entirely required there, but for my slow speed and non-DHer skills it's handy for a couple of flat spots to just keep a bit of speed.
Don't know about 2x10 because mine are single ring up front but try it with a cheap top guide on the front and see how you get on.