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The article is a bit odd it strives to appear balanced but appears to selectively change reality to make it seem that specialized ever had a leg to stand on. The quoted specialized trademark names the bike components specified and clearly does not cover wheels. The stw article suggests the opposite to imply the caffe owner wheelbuilder was careless and brought things on himself . If the writer is going to do that they should at least explain where thier different version of the trademark comes from. The use of "namely" followed by a list in the originally quoted description creates an exhaustive list not a wide category with some illustrations.
The article is a bit odd
Just a bit.
the bicycle company wrote the shop
Was it was written by an American?
[i]Was it was written by an American? [/i]
no, 'cos they'd have written 'reached out to' if they were.
Can I just cascade down to you "that reached out to" is international corporate speak for wrote to not uniquely American .
Am I being totally thick?
It's a town name
You can't have rights to that
Dave Hinde. End of thread
Am I being totally thick?
based on the below, yes.
It's a town nameYou can't have rights to that
Its a word, you can.
The whole furore was odd!
Agreed. Like I already said the Cafe owner did exactly what I would have done and used it as marketing. It worked, and we were all [s]suckered into[/s] part of it. 🙂
Never even want to hear the name again, let's talk about in-house hand-crafted bikes as opposed to mass-produced 'tat'.
Erm......................my old rocky mountain then
oh, and this company?
http://www.colnago.com/m10s/ oh god, something has just happened
[url= http://sg.rodalink.com/support/colnago-warranty-information ]Colnago 2 year Warranty[/url]
[url= http://cdn.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/pdf/General%20Warranty.pdf ]Specialized limited lifetime warranty[/url]
Nice to know where the tat is, and who can back their product up properly, isn't it?
Give me a big brand any time
Just saying, like... 🙂
jools182 - As I hold the copyright for being totally thick you now owe me one million-zillion pounds.
I think we have the first public announcement from Specialized on this issue in that un-atrributed front page article. I wonder how many other places that will appear with the implication that it is written by a journalist.
Ooooh, the rage! Do you get this angry about every trade mark dispute, or just those that get extensive coverage on your chosen social media outlets?
I'm not angry and I don't have any chosen social media outlets.
$pesh rider perchance?
I think the best point to take away from this whole sorry episode is as follows:
"If you're gonna wave your willy around, check that it's actually your willy you're waving first!
😉
I hope Spesh paid for that front page ad.
Love Tubs - Member
Hey DezB & Kimbers....tell ya what's funnier, the rubber shock absorbers in forks and seat-stays, connected by high modulus carbon links thus directing the majority of the shock force erm, along the tube??
Much as I love sticking the boot in whilst the [s]other man's[/s] [i]international bike company's [/i]down, you're talking bollox.
The CFRP forms a 'S' shaped spring in the fork/seatstays, which can compress/extend. The elastomer insert isn't suppourting your weight (much, it'll take a fraction), it's there to dampen the spring effect. CFRP has relatively low loss factor (damping) so an undamped version would vibrate/oscilate over cobbles, rather than absorb the energy.
Canyon have been doing something similar with the VCLS CFRP seatposts, ading bassalt fibres which have a greater loss factor, so they can make posts with lots of movement, that don't oscilate like a Ti post when pedaling.
Which is why Pinarello's bike design really is bolox, and ugly (and why steel/ti feel springy, but CFRP feels 'dead')!
I think we have the first public announcement from Specialized on this issue in that un-atrributed front page article.
appartently its written by some guy from Albuquerque
Via Twitter.
@iamspecialized
Local shops are so important to us & the industry. Glad we found a solution with @CafRoubaix & will take this experience to heart.
They've also broken their silence on FB - though I'm not about to link to their FB page here. There is a video of Mike Sinyard visiting Dan in his shop to apologise - he doesn't half look like he doesn't want to be there! Good on him for going to that length, but to be honest he was forced to do it, and they will be judged on whether they change their litigation policy in future, not on how well they apologise now. Do the right thing Specialized and sack half your lawyers tomorrow (you know just where to start).
I love the way they're spinning a humiliating climbdown following pressure from the owner of the trademark into finding a solution.
Saw that video this morning. Mike really didn't look like a happy bunny. I also think Dan would have him in a fight.
Video is a bit cringeworthy. But fair enough.
Glad you knew what he was on about TINAS.
Man-hug at the end shows off the Cafe-Roubaix wheels nicely, Genius !
They can't help themselves, can they?
[url= http://ridingagainstthegrain.com/2013/12/12/specialized-threatens-another-small-business-epix-gear/ ]http://ridingagainstthegrain.com/2013/12/12/specialized-threatens-another-small-business-epix-gear/[/url]