Hmmm....
@ogden done 👍
I was waiting to hear from a friend of a friend who may have been interested hence waiting.Pink frame for sale
Incase it's of any use/helps with the sale, Specialized does give warranty coverage to the 2nd owner.
"Subsequent Owners (second or later) are covered by a two year warranty from date of original retail purchase by original purchaser."
https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/warranty
It also seems you get free suspension pivot bearings (1 kit per year) from Specialized
That pink is a nice colour! Definitely eyeing one of these up for daughters next bike (assuming she graduates from a small to medium in the near future.
apologies if already answered here (i have the basic chisel fs sram model posted on page 2).
what would you recommend i upgrade first on the bike as it is heavy for sure.
also what rear shock do i need to upgrade to also? no idea about the size etc for the frame.
i do plan on fully upgrading my bike as funds allow.
thank you kindly 🙂
apologies if already answered here (i have the basic chisel fs sram model posted on page 2).
what would you recommend i upgrade first on the bike as it is heavy for sure.
also what rear shock do i need to upgrade to also? no idea about the size etc for the frame.
i do plan on fully upgrading my bike as funds allow.
thank you kindly 🙂
Sometimes an 'upgrade' isn't an upgrade if it's the wrong part - you can end up with a bike that doesn't ride as nicely if you choose the wrong shock for example. Same goes for tyres - if you're used to fast/light tyres, you might not like the feeling of slow/sticky tyres.
But your fork weighs 2.5kg (!!!) and the rebound adjustment is crude. Definitely start there.
Save 900g with a SID select, or 1kg with a SID ultimate (if you want an XC feel). BIG weight saving straight away. You'll need a 180mm front rotor with either of those forks. Select+ is the most adjustable IIRC.
Others fork options are out there too (depending on how you want the bike to ride), you could even convert your bike to a Chisel Evo by going for a 130mm fork - a different personality altogether.
With 1kg potentially removed from the front end, try to remove weight from the rear end too: Cassette + lighter wheel. Worry about middle bits later (chainset, saddle and seat post).
If you're happy with your shock - send it off to be serviced (only one place does them IIRC?). If you want to service it yourself, or fancy something with more adjustment - try to get a shock that works for your riding style. 190x40 (not 190x45).
Various Rockshox 'tunes' are listed on P2 of this thread (some are Trail oriented, others are XC oriented). You'll need the right top bushings to make it fit in the frame (bottom bushings are not needed). Other brands will work, but you'll have to do some research to figure out which tune you want.
As above, changing the fork made the biggest difference in feel to mine, I went for a 34 same as the ones fitted to the evo (only because i got them for a very low price, I had planned to stick at 120mm).
the wheels while not light aren’t actually that heavy, I bought a different set though as I wanted to fit a X0 cassette (saved over 300g against the stock one) and the wheels I bought cost me less than the xd driver and standard 15mm front adapters.
I have changed the chainset too, the standard one isn’t too heavy, but the BB is. I didn’t like the 175mm cranks though, had a fair few pedal strikes so two birds one stone, ended up with lighter cranks the right length (and a power meter too)
I am very tempted by one of these (base spec). Would put a Fox 34 130mm upfront, change drivetrain to Shimano SLX/XT and get some different wheels. Would weigh about 12kg ish.
Basically make an evo, but saving £1k+
I am very tempted by one of these (base spec). Would put a Fox 34 130mm upfront, change drivetrain to Shimano SLX/XT and get some different wheels. Would weigh about 12kg ish.
Basically make an evo, but saving £1k+
It would probably be around 12.5kg or slightly over with pedals (depending on the wheel choice and pedals).
Base spec bike (Small) with the following, now weighs in at 12.6 kg:
-SID Ultimate 120mm fork (biggest saving)
-SIDLuxe Ultimate shock (barely saved weight)
-XT (full drivetrain & BB) (good savings)
-Deore calipers (levers and hoses unchanged) (didn't weigh them)
-180mm front rotor (160mm will not fit new fork) (a fraction heavier).
-M540 pedals (I'm scared of flat pedals)
-Hunt XC Wide (6 bolt) wheels (lighter overall - barely a saving on front wheel, but 6 bolt rotors are lighter than centre lock).
-Tubeless, kept stock tyres (who still runs tubes?)
Approx 1.8kg shaved off.
Nice spec and thanks for the info. Was thinking of those Ghost Carbon wheels (weigh under 1.5kg). I was surprised reading how heavy the stock rekon forks are. Can be a somewhat economic upgrade if you offset costs by selling the old wheels, drivetrain fork etc.
@ogden done 👍
I was waiting to hear from a friend of a friend who may have been interested hence waiting.Pink frame for sale
If someone would buy my brand new Cotic Bfe frame I have for sale, I'd be all over this! @bedmaker you open to posting it?
Yeah, no problem.
apologies if already answered here (i have the basic chisel fs sram model posted on page 2).
what would you recommend i upgrade first on the bike as it is heavy for sure.
also what rear shock do i need to upgrade to also? no idea about the size etc for the frame.
i do plan on fully upgrading my bike as funds allow.
thank you kindly 🙂
For the rear shock, you could look at the shock that comes on the Chisel Comp, its a 190 x 40 Rockshox Deluxe Select, can see plenty on eBay. Do look for the ones from Chisels, as ones of other brands may have a diff tune and not feel great.
For other upgrades, Forks for the weight, and then rear cassette, I think the wheels have a HG driver and I'm not sure what lighter weight cassettes for HG exist, or you could look to get a XD driver and chuck a X01 cassette on there (or wheels with XD driver).
Other stuff I'd replace as its wears such as chain, chainring, cranks, tyres.
EDIT: For the fork, again, if you look at the Chisel Comp, its a Rockshox Sid 120mm Select, can see a few of those on FB marketplace and eBay.
right i have finally started to upgrade my chisel fs (cheapest model). my local bike shop has ordered a rockshox sid fork and a full xt groupset (was on special offer at merlin for 1/2 price inc brakes). i then plan on saving up for a set of the roval xc world cup wheels for it once i have paid off the fork and groupset.
then the rear shock and bar stem and saddle. i hope once i have done all that it will be a fair bit lighter than it is atm (and also hopefully will be lovely summer weather too).
now i just need to start riding my bike again as i haven't due to depression and awful weather here in wiltshire the past month(s).
Frame Sizing?
Sorry if this has been covered. I've been contemplating an FS chisel for ages. I currently have a chisel HT (second gen) in a medium with a 70mm stem. At 5' 6" and a tiny, tall ( or short) it feels just right.
I automatically thought a medium again but not so sure now
How has it sized up in the real world with you folks?
I am 5ft 5 and ride a small chisel fs and it feels fine for me but you might prefer a medium if you are used to a ht medium. I think my inside leg is 31 inches but has been a long time since I measured it I have to admit.
I am 5ft 5 and ride a small chisel fs and it feels fine for me but you might prefer a medium if you are used to a ht medium. I think my inside leg is 31 inches but has been a long time since I measured it I have to admit.
Cheers
well i finally have upgraded the drivetrain and wheels on my base chisel (also got a rockshox sid ultimate fork fitted about a month ago in black)
my bike now has a full xt 12 speed groupset (10 to 51 and a 30t chainring with 170mm cranks) minus the ice rotors and a pair of roval sl carbon wheels with dt swiss 350 hubs/ alu spokes with specialized ground control tires in tanwall.
(have kept the current rotors but plan to upgrade to hope floating rotors once i have paid off the wheels and tires, along with bar and stem and grips. maybe the dropper and saddle also but def the rear shock will be upgraded to a rockshox one).
my bike now weighs 28.10 lbs in small (it was def over 30 lbs maybe 31lbs originally).
i definitely noticed a difference just riding it back on k & a canal back from the bike shop. it felt lighter for sure and the new ratchet freehub is flipping awesome and almost silent which i love (never had a ratchet freehub before).
i cannot wait to start riding it properly hopefully as spring is upon us 🙂
i cannot wait to start riding it properly hopefully as spring is upon us
Ride ride ride. If you're not wearing parts out, ride some more!!
PS No pics = it didn't happen. 😉
@racefaceec90 recognise the bike from Retrobike now! I'm Brock Landers on there. 😀
@chesterrockwell yes that is me 🙂
i actually plan on doing a short video update on the bike this coming week when out on an offroad ride (will try and go in depth on the parts). hopefully cherhill monument as the views are great up there and not too far away from us (am very unfit atm due to a mix of depression, laziness and the awful weather we have had in the uk until now).
Think I read somewhere that the Chisel FS has been discontinued. Seems a shame as it looks a great bike. There was some confusion as to whether it has been killed off entirely or is going to be tweaked and/or rebranded as the Epic Alloy. Yours sounds fun!
I just had the first issue with my Chisel.
I managed to blow the shock after a little huck to flat, less than half a metre.
I probably should have been keeping an eye on the shock pressure, because it's seen some things.
Wasn't covered by warranty either, which was a bit shit, but probably my own fault.
That SID shock on Merlin would have been a good upgrade if I'd known. Can you run the remote lockout shock without the remote? I don't use the lockout anyway.
Without the lockout cable attached, a sidluxe has the lockout full open.
Think I read somewhere that the Chisel FS has been discontinued. Seems a shame as it looks a great bike. There was some confusion as to whether it has been killed off entirely or is going to be tweaked and/or rebranded as the Epic Alloy. Yours sounds fun!
I'd seen a dealer in the US suggest this on a Facebook group. I asked @GuyKesteven(say his name 3 times and he appears) about it and he said he got a unclear response from Spech UK about it.
Ey up @ogden the cryptic response I got from Specialized was: “Hmm, not dropped just not replaced right now…”
make of that what you will I guess 🤷♂️
that seems a really silly idea if they are stopping making them (or putting on hold as mr kesteven suggested above). not everyone can afford an expensive carbon bike (or want one). i went for a chisel fs because it was within my reach to afford one (was paying it off in installments still).
a lot of people seem to love the bikes (def include me in that) and what about young riders who want an affordable xc full sus who don't have wealthy parents etc.
wont the bike companies think of the not so rich people 😀
Without the lockout cable attached, a sidluxe has the lockout full open.
Yup - both my fork and shock are both RL, but I never bothered to fit the remote because I never felt the need. 👌
a lot of people seem to love the bikes (def include me in that) and what about young riders who want an affordable xc full sus who don't have wealthy parents etc.
I hope mine goes to a good home for that reason - but there's a risk is someone will strip it to make a quick buck. 🤷♂️
Some people just want to start out on something basic, but upgradable. That's exactly what I did - I didn't know whether I'd properly get back into the world of MTB, so there's no way I'd have forked out on anything more expensive. But after a few miles on my legs, I'm happy to do that. 👍
PS Hoping they're just beavering away in the background updating it to the EE8 geo?
I hope mine goes to a good home for that reason - but there's a risk is someone will strip it to make a quick buck.
Some people just want to start out on something basic, but upgradable. That's exactly what I did - I didn't know whether I'd properly get back into the world of MTB, so there's no way I'd have forked out on anything more expensive. But after a few miles on my legs, I'm happy to do that.
PS Hoping they're just beavering away in the background updating it to the EE8 geo?
@Oms you selling a chisel?
What did you try that you liked better?
I've tried a few:
- E8
- Scalpel
My flip chip is in the higher position on the Chisel. I've also lowered the bars a bit. It definitely helps on steep climbs. The Scalpel geo might suit a bit better.
Both had a bit more zing - difficult to describe. Something to do with being carbon?
Ey up @ogden the cryptic response I got from Specialized was: “Hmm, not dropped just not replaced right now…”
make of that what you will I guess 🤷♂️
A quick search shows the Chisel available with good discounts, if they haven't sold as well as intended I can see why Specialized would put it on hiatus.
i finally did a quick video on my chisel with it's upgrades
am def chuffed with the upgrades (i would say that though). am liking the ergon grips that i bought (first time i tried them on the ride today).
wont the bike companies think of the not so rich people
updating it to the EE8 geo?
A quick search shows the Chisel available with good discounts, if they haven't sold as well as intended I can see why Specialized would put it on hiatus.
Might be a little bit of all three?
Making an alloy one makes sense when you're production factories are flat out making carbon ones as quickly as they can be sold and keeping prices high so there's a market segment to fill.
Making more stock of the alloy ones when there's a new model in 18months is pointless as they'd just end up discounted, better to just sell existing stock as less of a discount.
And maybe it was just a bit niche? The answer to "what entry level XC race bike?" has always traditionally been a hardtail because it's both cheaper and lighter. At WC level the Epic FS makes sense as courses got more gnarly, but that's very niche.