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Not sure how many threads I previously posted regarding the Chisel, but sure has excited a few on here. I think it’s two other threads over the last couple of months. Can the post checkers confirm back ?
Well since you asked......I'm up to 4 threads that you implicitly expressed an interest in buying a Chisel (or an Epic Evo) Just go and buy one (of them) - you'll love it. There is nothing new on this thread compared to anything on the other ones. (and yes you can call me sad.....but 10 mins downtime after a long teams call_
Asking shops for discounts?
coconutFree Member
I would like a new Specialized Chisel FS frame, they’re just launched at £1,400. Is it reasonable to just come out and ask if they could offer a discount
Trail and Downcountry Thread:
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After some advice on whether the following two bike setup would work together..... So… I have an idea of getting the new Specialized Chisel FS
Specialized Chisel Thread:
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Just out a few hours ago!… The new Speialized Chisel looks an interesting XC/downcountry bike, 120mm front & 110mm rear. I think this is priced well (£2K for standard with a Recon, or £2.7k for the SID build)
Just one bike thread:
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. I keep trying to convince myself I need a short travel down country bike to compliment it as a second bike (like the Epic Evo – 120mm).
I just don't understand why you'd be so motivated in gathering feedback for a bike which most people haven't received yet, and which you have no interest in owning. Yes this may only be third thread you've opened on the Chisel specifically but the Chisel is an alloy Epic/Epic Evo with small geometry tweaks. Before Chisel you've started at least 5 threads about the Epic Evo.
I didn't notice the pattern apart from that this forum seemed particularly interested in the Specialized Epic Evo. I was curious if that was just Specialized's marketing being super effective or if it really is just a much better bike model than others in its category. But now I see that it's the same poster constantly asking the same questions about Specialized FS bikes and seems to be hesitating over buying one for the last 6 months.
I can't speak for everyone but I'm very interested in reviews and feedback for particular model right before buying it. After I've bought the bike I'd rather enjoy it and not read any more bike reviews as it just starts up the n+1 desire cycle again.
In relation to an alloy flexstay?
They've been in use without issue for a long time before Specialized joined the party. Salsa and Kona for example.
They’ve been in use without issue for a long time before Specialized joined the party. Salsa and Kona for example.
absolutely. That’s why I am curious if that’s what the worry was, or if it’s something else. Merida have also been doing it for quite a while.
+14kg for an xc full sus bike sounds heavy to me.
I do like the engineering of the frame, but not light though for the travel.
The specialized chisel comp is 12.86kg
The cheap 2023 epic evo is 12.72kg
It would be very hard to notice 140g
I have been riding a chisel comp for a month now and it’s fantastic. The rear shock tune is very good, great balance of efficient but still enough suppleness for rougher stuff. I don’t bother with the lock out now, even on road.
Downhill performance is better than I expected, helped a bit by the slightly higher stack I think and the Sid fork is more controlled through its stroke than I thought it would be.
Components all seem good, brakes aren’t the strongest but I am used to TRP with 223 rotors on my big bikes so a bit of an unfair comparisons. Stock grips are awful, the specialized power saddle is a comfort revelation so will be getting that for my other bikes now.
Reason for ordering over an epic evo was the slightly more modern and trail orientated geo, especially the higher stack, shimano slx rather sram nx and the newer sid suspension rather than a very old design low spec rockshox Reba.
The epic evo makes sense if you are going to upgrade it to lighter parts later or go for a higher spec one
https://www.mtbr.com/threads/chisel-fs-thread.1232352/page-2
here you go @coconut - a couple on there who have ridden it and listed build weights.
https://www.mtbr.com/threads/chisel-fs-thread.1232352/page-2 < here you go @coconut – a couple on there who have ridden it and listed build weights.
a couple of bloody lovely builds in there. Once the frames are in stock i will be buying one. I have toyed with the Epic Evo options, but i want aluminium and the updated geo. Will be a few weeks or so, but will report my findings back.
I'm fairly set on getting a Chisel Comp. Might have to wait until next year though unfortunately.
Still can't seem to be able to quote but following the reply above and my post on a previous thread, the chap I spoke to in the specialized Store in Harrogate reckoned that the better Chisel was a touch lighter than the cheapest Epic Evo 8 according to their scales.
8 = 8th generation I believe
further to my earlier post about pre ordering the cheapest chisel fs bike. i know that it isn't light etc but just wanted to get one before the middle of next year (as i have a ride planned hopefully for it).
i do plan on lightening it as funds allow but the base model will keep us riding as i'm doing so. just very much looking forward to February 2025 now 🙂
I'd sooner have an epic 8 base model over the chisel tbh
But the base epic is about 40% more expensive than the most expensive chisel.
as an aside, my local specialized dealer which is owned by specialized, no less has 2 high end epic evo 8’s and a couple of stumpjumpers at over 11,000 Canadian, but they have no plans to stock the Chisel FS.
I guess they know their market, but the chisel isn’t that far from the epic evo and they already have the new status, do it isn’t the “cheapness”. That said, an inexpensive park bike probably appeals to a bigger market than a similarly priced xc bike.
My thoughts echo what Farmerguy said. I've had my FS comp a couple of weeks now, did two 40 miles rides this week and each time I ride it I'm convinced I made a good choice! My reasoning against a reduced epic was that I preferred the spec list of the chisel comp and didn't want to have to upgrade or swap parts.
It's done really well on and around the ridgeway so far.
What price are these base spec Epics? Give me £3k and I bet I can build a nicer bike on one of the Chisel FS frame only deals.
Definitely looks like the last Cannondale Scalpel (circa 2018) with the flex seat stay.
I wonder how it's ride compares to a four bar design.
Odd that Specialized have moved to a single pivot/faux bar from a four bar, where Cannondale have done the opposite with their Scalpel design.
Would you not prefer a Cannondale Scalpel? I bet it's a good bit lighter than an alloy Chisel FS.
https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Cannondale/Scalpel-4-mountain-Bike-2024/12MZ7
well they said that my chisel wouldn't arrive until feb 2025, but when i emailed the manager saying that i would be in next week to pay another installment towards the bike (am selling my guitar and mini amp) Dave the manager replied the bike has turned up early 😀
i plan on going in tomorrow afternoon to see it (paying the next installment as well). will take some pics of it if i can.
feels like crimbo has come early lol.
@racefaceec90 - remind me, what model and colour did you go for? And size?
Looking forward to seeing some pics 🙂
@v7fmp am going for one of these in the red colour small https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/chisel/p/4221775?color=5382740-4221775
ha they uploaded woohoo.
love the bike when i saw it i have to say (well i would say that).
it is heavy no doubt about that (reckon 30lb or so at a guess). but i will call it resistance training when i get to ride it.
i do plan on upgrading it when funds allow.
cannot wait to ride it now (in around 6 months time or so lol).
Just leaving this here...
£1,999 from £4,499
in around 6 months time or so
Bet before end of the week you'll be working out how to get that out on the trails earlier.....?
Did they supply it with the front hose routed that way? Very nice colour
Yep, I'd be whipping that caliper off and routing the hose correctly inside the fork. 2 minute job.
@coconut - this is going to blow your mind.
https://www.specialized.com/au/en/chisel-comp-evo/p/4274939?color=5436775-4274939
So glad I stumbled on this thread. Was trying to justify £2700 of debt for the posh Chisel when I saw a 2023 Epic EVO for £2k. Can't fkn wait ?
I’ve been pondering a chisel fs to replace my chisel ht.
thought I would wait until the new year, but balfes sent out a 10% off everything code, so placed an order earlier for a chisel fs comp.
whilst I agree there are great prices on the old epic evo, the chisel has better geo and spec in my opinion and it’s not made of plastic, so will compliment my Raaw Madonna well.
same boat tho…. Can’t ruddy wait!
Was looking at getting the Frame only and swapping some parts over from a current rigid set up. Possibly try the DT Swiss F232 which gets some good reviews and can be had for a reasonable price.
Then Specialized confirmed they will be bringing in the new Chisel FS Comp - Evo spec in the new year.......... looks like some great upgrades for an extra £300. Weight still looks very good. Decisions ... decisions.....
Was looking at getting the Frame only and swapping some parts over from a current rigid set up. Possibly try the DT Swiss F232 which gets some good reviews and can be had for a reasonable price.
Then Specialized confirmed they will be bringing in the new Chisel FS Comp – Evo spec in the new year………. looks like some great upgrades for an extra £300. Weight still looks very good. Decisions … decisions…..
Chisel Comp Evo
I was looking at the frame as well but i still think you could build something nicer for £3k with the frame only with all the deals about at the moment. Also doesn't look as great a deal at full RRP when the Epic 8 has already been reduced as low as £3.2k recently. Given the recent pattern with Specialized sales it'll be reduced 30-40% in less than 6 months.
I was looking at the frame as well but i still think you could build something nicer for £3k with the frame only with all the deals about at the moment. Also doesn’t look as great a deal at full RRP when the Epic 8 has already been reduced as low as £3.2k recently. Given the recent pattern with Specialized sales it’ll be reduced 30-40% in less than 6 months.
Yes, in no rush, likely a project for the Spring. When they discount the frame that's probably the time to go for it.
Had mine a few weeks now, XL size Chisel FS base, it's 15kg with pedals and bottle cages etc
I'll be making some upgrades over the next year, starting with those forks, I weighed them at just over 2.5kg and the cassette, it's 711g (will be going on the kickr though so not a complete waste).
Initial thoughts are that I want the bars lower (stack is higher than my XL sonder Evol) and the grips were too thin for my taste. Just need to put the miles in now.
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Got myself a base Chisel FS Shimano in August last year, and covered 200 miles on the stock bike which (in size S) weighed 14.4kg with pedals and one bottle cage. Here it is in stock form:
I decided to take some weight off, and improve transmission etc. Opted for a 2021 SID Ultimate Raceday fork, which shaved 1kg off the front. I then went for an XT drivetrain which shaved 400g off the bike. Both upgrades were worth it. Here's what it looks like now at 13kg after covering an additional 50 mies:
Going for the 'comp' is a very sensible option. It's already lighter, has a slightly better drivetrain, better fork, and a shock that can be serviced in most places. There aren't many places that will service the X Fusion O2 Pro rear shock - plus if you want to tune it, I'm not sure the knowledge or parts are out there. The comp is worth the extra £700 if those things matter to you. A few things to point out:
1- Base 'Shimano' model isn't totally Shimano - cranks and BB are 'Prowheel' branded. YMMV as far as getting a replacement or different chainring for it. Going to a full XT drivetrain, it's a lot quieter/smoother so I'm pleased.
2- Switching to the SID forks required a new front rotor - stock is 160mm (despite what the sales blurb claims), and I had to replace it with a 180mm rotor.
3- Base model brakes are fine, but not sinter pad compatible. Apparently, to go sintered, new calipers and rotors are required. Bear that in mind.
4- Headset lasted 200 miles. No rubber seals on the top or bottom. I replaced it with an FSA headset and keep an eye on it. Could be user error, but worth mentioning.
5- Rear axle has come loose once or twice - not sure why. User error? I have greased it etc to avoid corrosion, so I might try something else.
6- VERY easy to setup as tubeless. It took minutes using a track pump, and has been trouble-free.
Having had 13 years off riding a MTB, previously owning a HT with only 90mm travel, I can't give you any realistic feedback on how it rides/performs compared to other FS bikes.
So far, it's been great though - but it'll take time to get used to how it performs going up VERY steep stuff. I might change the position of the flip-chip and/or bars for a better position when climbing.