Well done Harry Hall Cycles. Well done. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Circa 5 early teen boys, ok they were being a PITA, on bikes (a few nice early-adoptor bikes) and as kids do they were asking too many questions. Now I didn't witness the start but they were winding the staff up no doubt. A couple of the kids were polite and made way for me/my son. Just because they didn't have a bulging wallet out? Why the swearing and threatening to punch the kids in the mouth?
Seriously uncool and I hope you are ashamed if you post on STW. Believe me if you'd have physically touched those children I would have protected them.
So what if they were mouthy? Man up. Don't threaten them infront of a potential customer.
i think there are other places that you sohuld report this to.
No make sure you do it where no one can see you. 😯
Did you say this to the shop staff? Or just use the, much more effective, approach of waiting to say it to the intarweb?
Who to? Its a one store bikeshop so no one to answer to.
Two shop working guys in Evans on Deansgate yesterday man handled some teenage scrotes out of the door. I'd have given each of those kids a boot up the arse as well.
I was there with my wife and daughter to try and buy a bike, not have to listen to the little gobshites mouthing off and generally being dickheads.
What would have been the better option Hora? Ask them ever so nicely to be not so rude and kindly apologise to all before exiting the store in a civilised manner?
did you "man up" and tell the shouty, punchy, threateny men how you felt before running off to type on your 'puter?
Ain't not telling off like a STW-as-proxy telling off.
You get 'em tiger!
There was nearly a bloodbath. But there wasn't.
Ah.. I type too slow... pathetic hora, pathetic 😕
[b]Believe me if you'd have physically touched those children I would have protected them.[/b]
Do you have a costume.
Monksie I know the type you mean. These kids didn't look 'Salford types'.
GW no maybe I should but I'll pop them an email (not that'd visit the place again anyway).
Do you have a costume.
No need. You can't polish awesome.
South Manchester middle class vigilante in too upset to finish espresso shocker?
Should I write a strongly worded letter to my MP? 😆
Should I write a strongly worded letter to my MP?
Just make sure you sign it with someone else's name to avoid any blowback.
"These kids didn't look 'Salford types'"
Sorry?
hang on a minute - you're kicking off about the shop owner being abusive to kids, infront of you and your kid, but if he'd have go physical you would have abused him [i]in front of your own son[/i]???
Warped logic there my friend
Ha ha ha 😀no maybe I should but I'll pop them an email
There is a man, a man who would not stand by and watch, a man who plays with people like a mountain man plays a banjo.
But he goes to zoos.
But he goes to zoos.
Genuine lol.
morgs - Memberhang on a minute - you're kicking off about the shop owner being abusive to kids, infront of you and your kid, but if he'd have go physical you would have abused him in front of your own son???
Warped logic there my friend
Like father like son isnet!
I believe that it's probably too late, Bets on whether his son is in jail before the age of 21!
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monksie - Member
Two shop working guys in Evans on Deansgate yesterday man handled some teenage scrotes out of the door. I'd have given each of those kids a boot up the arse as well.
I was there with my wife and daughter to try and buy a bike, not have to listen to the little gobshites mouthing off and generally being dickheads.Posted 31 minutes ago # Report-Post
and if you walk out of the door of Evans, up the side street,100 yards, you will arrive at Manchster central Police station, full of Police officers who are trained and capable of removing said oiks to a nice concrete cell.
Oh and its not that far to Harry Halls as well.
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Ever wished you hadn't started a thread?
just to say people in there are really nice!!!
Project. I'm more than aware where central Manchester nick is (being a local) and also that any bobby in there would have probably done verty little other than say "chuck the shits out" but thank you anyway, cocker.
I'm confused now. Who's son, and who was going to kick off about kicking off in front of saome random not previously mentioned son?
monksie - read the op again.
Hora says
which leads me to believe that, if the owner had got physical, Hora would have replied in kind.Believe me if you'd have physically touched those children I would have protected them.
Earlier in the post, Hora says
A couple of the kids were polite and made way for me/my son
Maybe I'm just jumping to conculsions here, but it seems to me that Hora would have given the guy in the shop a bit of a slap if he'd have kicked of on the kids. This, in my opinion is nothing short of a disgusting thing to do infront of your own child.
Does this make sense now?
Yes. No longer confused. Thank you.
Back from the pub. I'm confused dot com 😀
Morgs - stopping an adult from assaulting a kid is a disgusting thing to do in front of your own child?
In a Zoo?
I wouldn't give anyone abit of a slap. You'll find me as the most non-violent person and happy-go-lucky in person. I do hate inbalance or someone suffering though. Maybe I should get one of those suits above like the Salford lad who 'patrols' the streets at night 😀
Hora, yesterday
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For shame, this guy is for real. Read it and weep.
(courtesy of Terrahawk)
can't be arsed.....
Mmmm. One or two of the staff in there have also been too vocal in taking the piss out customers in ear-shot of other customers (not just once). Might not be entirely relevant other than 'it's not cool' (but I'm sure they think they are). I think one or two staff in there shouldn't be in 'customer service'.
Yossarian, that IS hora!
hora - Member
I should get one of those suits above like the Salford lad who 'patrols' the streets at nightPosted 24 minutes ago # Report-Post
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/superheroes-of-suburbia/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
So its just to get free advertisong for your new channel 4 show this friday then, very clever.
Ps, what tyres and gloves for a super hero.
Funnily places that I would frequent again I do complain about. Evans Trafford isn't (or at least wasn't) even close to Evans Deansgates customer service skills.
The founder of Richer Sounds (well prob not him) wrote back to me to thank me for my praise of the staff in their Deansgate store.
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There was nearly a bloodbath. But there wasn't.
No need. You can't polish awesome.
South Manchester middle class vigilante in too upset to finish espresso shocker?
Genuine comedy gold, all of you.... 😀
TandemJeremy - Member
Morgs - stopping an adult from assaulting a kid is a disgusting thing to do in front of your own child?
Not my point. My point is that Hora seems to take exception if it had got violent, but is more than happy to use violence in front of his child.
Many more options available IMHO. Eg, walk away.
I work on the doors and have needed to use force as well as stopping force being used. One thing for sure is I would always explore [b][i][u]EVERY[/u][/i][/b] opportunity to get out of the situation before my child saw me in a violent situation.
Evans? Richer Sounds? Where is this planet?
I think that hits is right. Stop cruelt to children with all of your might. Teach your kids this is right. Hope they'll feel the same one day.
You lot maybe the type to walk away or stay quiet but I for one am glad that there's still some decent folk out there.
Stop cruelt to children with all of your might. Teach your kids this is right. Hope they'll feel the same one day.
Completely agree. But by the same token, isn't letting your child see you using violence also out of order?
so morgs - you think if you see someone hitting a child you should just walk past if you have your own child with you?
I think we would all prefer that our children do not see us involve din altercations either verbal or physical. However avoidance may be a greater evil as TJ's example shows
Wow! What a can of worms this thread is!!!! but it's not that black and white IMO.
The situation given by HORA gives many 'outs'. It hadn't got physical yet, so he could have walked away. He could have taken the kid back to the car and gone back in to 'have words'. He could have said 'wind it in, or I'll call the police'. He could have got his phone out and started recording it so blatantly that the guy in the shop just stopped.
Don't get me wrong, I deplore adults that beat up on kids. But I would sooner sit my son down and explain why something is wrong than to have him see me fighting.
My son has just turned 6 - so, yeah, my responses are focused on him being that age. If he was older, say 16 then I'd probably wade in without as much thought to it.
Let me ask you the question - would you steam in with your fists if you had your child(ren) with you if a shopkeeper was swearing at a couple of teens?
Like I say - not that black and white
What would Glupton do? 😉
hora . Believe me if you'd have physically touched those children I would have protected them.
morgs - Memberhang on a minute - you're kicking off about the shop owner being abusive to kids, infront of you and your kid, but if he'd have go physical you would have abused him in front of your own son???
So its quite clear -Hora says if the shopkeeper had assaulted the kids he would have intervened and yuou said that he should not infront of his kids
my eldest is 6 and I would ask the shopkeeper not to swear.
If he started hitting them I would probably intervene in a splitting up a fight style rather than hitting him.
You are right the OP could have spoken up but we dont know enough about the "customers" to pass comment tbh.
What would Glupton do?
So far we have established it would be some type of zoo based justice.
morgs dont back down TJ would not
IIRC you point out TJ has no kids and so he cannot understand ...you then goad him about logos, dogs and helmets.
After 22 pages take the Edinburgh defence 😀
I know what you mean reading between the lines you would intervene in a non physical way. Horas post hints that he would have got violent on him though I am not sure this is what he is saying.
Classic Hora thread... 🙂
i kinda got the impression Hora said he would have protected them, as in put himself inbetween them as opposed to protection a la mafia kinda protection but i might have missed if Hora is of Italian descent?
The flames are hot (especially those pictures) but this is a serious issue...What if your kid came back home & said that a shop assistant got verbal & threatening?
'I didn't have enough wedge dad & he wanted to smack me because I'm smaller than him & I asked too many questions' - 'It's okay son, most treat young'ns like you with contempt, get used to it'.
I doubt it... 🙄
Rolls eyes, moves on
Stw Sunday night post ride cock waving at it's best
dare I say it....no can't bring myself to, arrrghhh the conflict..
gonna have to, can't believe it..
TJ is right.. (god what have I said) 😯
Old man Hora doesn't say he'll get violent, he just says
Believe me if you'd have physically touched those children I would have protected them
and that to me sounds like the right thing to do
I reckon you can protect people without being violent, n'est-ce pas?
Is Hora Steven Seagull?
Should that not be seaview seagull?
@iain1775: Do you really think that half of these guys have been out on rides yesterday, I think it's more likely that they've sat in the garden polishing their thomson seat-posts up & down thinking of days gone by...
busy fathers are excused but the rest of you type too much! 😉
Morgs last night.
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Mmmm. One or two of the staff in there have also been too vocal in taking the piss out customers in ear-shot of other customers (not just once). Might not be entirely relevant other than 'it's not cool' (but I'm sure they think they are). I think one or two staff in there shouldn't be in 'customer service'
Wild guess- he had tattoo's on his arms?
Show violence infront of my son?
This is in a broad and O/T context:
There is something called context. If you get into an argument and punch/headbut someone your son has no reference point to a right or wrong shouting and swearing saying 'come on then you c*nt'.
If you restrain or object/defend someone within a situation and it explained afterwards your son learns a valuable life lesson.
If you do nothing and move on then your own life is none the richer.
Saying all this my Father was a very violent man who hit people out of any sort of context and its not made me the same.