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The chap on the phone didn't mention seal changes to me, but perhaps he could tell I should just give them a bit of love first ๐Ÿ™‚

Out of interest what pads do you run on yours?

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Posted : 01/08/2013 5:43 pm
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probably Hope sintered, not sure.

If you put organic on for the summer, it rains. If you put sintered on for the rain, it dries up. That's how it is.


 
Posted : 01/08/2013 5:45 pm
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Cheers Matt. I've got hopes on too... Think they are sintered as well.

I've just been out for a quick ride to test the feel again so I can describe it a bit better.

Basically I can pull on the front brake and it feels like there isn't anything there. Eventually it stops me but I would say it take a second or so. I've just adjusted the biting point to all the way in so the bite kicks in a little earlier. It has helped make the brakes feel a little more reactive but it still seems like I can ride along if I pull the front in with just one finger.


 
Posted : 01/08/2013 8:51 pm
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contaminated pads/discs i'd wager.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 11:24 am
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Hey del.

I reckon you might be right. Would cleaning the rotors sort? I'm thinking of hoping them to a 183 on front so if I changed pads at same time I guess that would let me know!


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 12:46 pm
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Well I just have to hold my hands up and say it looks like I was saying bad things about Hope and was completely wrong.

I just took of my front rotor and cleaned it with acetone (it's all i had to hand) and then hot soapy water and gave it a rinse. Took my pads out and they had a glaze to them. Sanded them back to the good stuff and refitted everything. Did a quick bed in and my brakes feel how they should again... there is bite there and I can't ride forwards when I'm holding the levers.

I even noticed that I have a 183 rotor on the front already!

With all this in mind I need to start taking care of my bike more. Any tips for a tool set up that I need for maintaining the bike greatly appreciated. I think i'll get a workstand to work on it.

Cheers for everyones help. You've saved me some cash. Sorry for dissing Hope :o)


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 1:38 pm
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Cheers for everyones help. You've saved me some cash. Sorry for dissing Hope :o)

Bugger, was betting on some cheap brakes


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 1:43 pm
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Ha! Sorry to disappoint. I'll just look after these ones... They look far nicer than anything else so I'm really pleased they now stop me.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 1:45 pm
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brilliant. today you changed your life, you can use the LBS when you want to not because you have to, and you can buy second hand frames and build them yourself too

key tools, you may have most:
* a set of normal hex keys
* a set of small spanners
* a set of the '3 in a star' hex keys, these are brilliant because usually the size you need next is already in your hand (but they don't always fit in tight spaces)
* a cable cutter
* a chain whip for removing cassettes
* cassette lockring tightner-upperer
* a BB removal tool

A workstand is a good idea, plus space to use it of course.

Other bits and pieces, get when you need them.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 1:48 pm
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183 is not equal to 180, as I fear I have found by going to XT from X2 Tech for many of the same reasons. I've packed out the mount but there is still a 'ting' noise from I think the rotor when I lean on the front climbing or at speed.

Going to sub in a real 180 and see if that cures it. I didn't even know it was 183 till I had a really good look.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 2:08 pm
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PS re: Tools - Lidl did a set of ballended Hex keys when they do their 'tool cycle' that are absolutely excellent, and 4.99 for a full set.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 2:19 pm
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STW in "Happy Ending" BOMBSHELL ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 2:25 pm
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Thanks Matt that's great info. I've always been a tinkerer but it's time to get serious ๐Ÿ™‚

Is buying a set like this a good way to go?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/x-tools-bike-tool-kit-18-piece/rp-prod40997

Or best to build up from individual bits? I need an ISIS crank remover for getting my race face cranks off... think that's included in there.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 2:47 pm
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Don't know. I never bought a kit, perhaps I should have!

Love this thread, it has a special redemptive Friday feel-good factor.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 2:57 pm
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Ha! Yeah I really do feel like i've been saved :o)

On another random thread... I'm thinking of changing my stem size. I rode a smaller framed bike the other day and could throw it around a bit more. Would shortening the stem size help that feeling a little on my 18 inch orange? I'm 5ft 11.

I was thinking of going Hope 50mm 0 rise...


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 3:54 pm
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well done sorting your brakes! ๐Ÿ˜€
shorter stem probably won't hurt you. I'm 5'10"andabit riding an 18" too. think my stems a 70mm. i'm also running easton vice bars @ 711mm IIRC.


 
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Bugger, was betting on some cheap brakes

Me too. But I'll grit my teeth and say well done to popmatik for sorting it out. But only because it's Friday you understand ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 5:04 pm
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short stem wide bars, try it, you are unlikely to go back unless you are really skinny with narrow shoulders. I ride 750mm to 800mm, stems in the 50mm or 60mm ish.

(711mm isn't wide ...)


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 5:05 pm
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Thanks guys.

I'm actually really skinny Matt ๐Ÿ™‚ so maybe wide bars won't be required? With a shorter stem would I get a twitchy front if I kept the standard bars that come with the five?


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 5:20 pm
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I dno what the standard 5 bars are, but short stem 'narrow' bars would feel odd to me. Very fast steering I would expect, and a bit unstable.

I'd say get some wide ones (760 maybe), ride them a bit, then cut them down if you don't get on with them. But you may well like them.


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 5:26 pm
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Oki dokes. So a few bits of buying to do. Maybe I should start with the tools first before I start throwing a load of money at new parts...


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 5:45 pm
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Good one popmatik. Nice bit of honesty too.


 
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nah all you need for messing about with bars and stems is hex keys, and maybe a T25 Torx driver if you have SRAM [s]inconveniently specced[/s] treasured bits. dive in.

I mess about with bars etc a lot so only use 100% lock on grips, so they only take a moment to take off

a DIY store pipe cutter works very well for shortening alloy bars (and fork steerers), I believe you're,meant to use a hacksaw for carbon


 
Posted : 02/08/2013 7:19 pm
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