[Closed] Scott going all 27.5+

If you are having to purchase a new fork, wheels, tyres, gears, bottom bracket etc. Then there gets a point where it's cheaper to purchase a whole new bike rather than worrying about if you can get your old 'standard' parts.

And you can still get 26" bits of good quality and probably will for quite a while yet so I really don't understand why people are upset.

I still have a 1" steer bike with 26" wheels and V brakes and I can still get bits for it. Maybe not the latest greatest products but it still runs fine.

This sport is becoming a parody of itself. I recall a year or so back, a joke line on here that - because 650b wasn't actually 27.5", the next move would be actually be a shift to the real 27.5".

Strange that, as '650b' (which is a much smaller touring tyre) in MTB terms measures about 28" diameter...

traildog - Member

If you are having to purchase a new fork, wheels, tyres, gears, bottom bracket etc. Then there gets a point where it's cheaper to purchase a whole new bike rather than worrying about if you can get your old 'standard' parts.

And then you discover that the old bits that would have helped fund the new bike, aren't worth much, because of the artificial obsolescence. I don't know how much I've lost on 26 inch parts, it's too depressing to add it up. Why would that [i]not[/i] annoy you?

Some people just seem really delighted to have money taken out of their pockets.

Rocky Mountain has a single 27.5+ bike in their lineup for 2015, the Sherpa, which makes some people more upset than Bieber, animal abuse, and Clarkson getting fired from Top Gear. Combined.

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/pinkbike-poll-will-you-consider-buying-a-275-bike-2015.html

no 27,5" and no 27,5+" for me, but 29" and 29+ .. and of course vintage 26"...
was all day out yesterday with my old dialled PA, oldschool wheelsize, odd angles, straight steerer,9 speed and so much FUN !!

Remember - you don't have to buy any of the new 'standards' or feel the slight gains provided are going to change your life. It is your bike and your choice.

I am still very happily riding a rigid 26" with 1 1/8 head tube, QR hubs in 100 and 135, 68mm BB etc, and I have absolutely no problem getting any parts that I want.

Agree that in 10 years time this may be more difficult but I will worry about it then.

I think really the frustration comes from those who like to have the current 'improvements' but are being forced into changing whole bikes to get those rather than just being able to upgrade in installments as we typically used to be able to do (though I'll note that discs meant a lot of new frames/forks in the late 90s/early 00s)

When comparing like with like that is. You are comparing like with like aren't you? What XC spec 2.5 is that you have?

You've missed the point....completely.

I have Maxxis Minions in 2.35 and 2.5.
I have High Rollers in most sizes from the tiny 1.9 to a 2.5 version.

For the odd DH race I enter and the uplift days I go on I fit the 2.5 tyres, they seem to offer more grip and I put up with the drag because it's gravity based riding.

However when out on my local trails I take them off and put the smaller tyres on, much easier to pedal, noticeably less drag...on the rare occasion I've left the big tyres on from an uplift day and gone trail riding I curse myself as its like riding through treacle.

I can see the point of these massive tyres on the front of a gravity bike but for poncing round a trail centre?....give me strength.

or, for poncy mincers like me, big soft tyres are a viable alternative to suspension.

deviant - Member

I have Maxxis Minions in 2.35 and 2.5.
I have High Rollers in most sizes from the tiny 1.9 to a 2.5 version.

For the odd DH race I enter and the uplift days I go on I fit the 2.5 tyres, they seem to offer more grip and I put up with the drag because it's gravity based riding.

Yeah but... Maybe with the + size, you can go with a big but less knobbly or sticky tyre and still get the grip you want. Comparing actual like with like doesn't quite work, you're looking for actual performance equivalence not paper. And changing size can give weird results anyway, like a 2.5 nevegal singleply rolls faster than the 2.35 for some reason.

I don't know how this actually works out in the world, I've not tried a + tyre but it doesn't strike me it'll be as simple as all that

(if I could sell my 26 inch wheels and forks for what they were worth 2 years ago, I'd get some scrapers and find out 😉 )

on the rare occasion I've left the big tyres on from an uplift day and gone trail riding I curse myself as its like riding through treacle.

except the tyres on the scott won't be a triple wall super tacky rubber dh tyre 😆

I can see the point of these massive tyres on the front of a gravity bike but for poncing round a trail centre?....give me strength.

trail centres, not mandatory

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FWIW, first run with a b+ front tyre this morning and the ride stats would suggest that it's no slower on the climbs than with a standard 29er tyre. It'll be interesting to see if that carries over to running b+ on the back.

They're certainly nothing like running a big, fat, sticky DH tyre.

Bloody 650plus rubbish....pah.....hang on.....
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OH HELLO!!!!

That looks flippin ace!

I can see the point of these massive tyres on the front of a gravity bike but for poncing round a trail centre?....give me strength.

We're not all weekend warriors who think a trail centre is "epic Bro!" though

Did you say you wnated more?!?!?
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Pre taped too.
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Gotta say that regardless of wheel standard; I [i]really[/i] like that bike.

+1

"epic Bro!"

Typo obviously. I'm sure you meant "epic Brah!"

Typo obviously. I'm sure you meant "epic Bra!"

EPIC FAIL BRO, ITS EPIC BRAH

Don't know what you mean. Besides you should look at your own post 😉

dirtyrider - Member

EPIC FAIL BRA, ITS EPIC BRAH

No matter how moany you are, you still have to admit that bigger tyres are awesomer.

Bigger tyres are awesome, it's why we were rocking 2.4" Rubber Queens 4 years ago. On our 26" bikes.

Are you looking at my "Brah"?

[quote=deviant ]You've missed the point....completely.
I have Maxxis Minions in 2.35 and 2.5.
I have High Rollers in most sizes from the tiny 1.9 to a 2.5 version.
For the odd DH race I enter and the uplift days I go on I fit the 2.5 tyres, they seem to offer more grip and I put up with the drag because it's gravity based riding.

Er, no, it seems to be you missing the point. Because as already mentioned we're not talking about DH tyres. I've no idea what happens with DH tyres as they get wider - with XC tyres they actually tend to roll faster on proper off-road with bumps and stuff.