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No 150mm forks on there.
The search term was SID 26, try revelation 26
2016 model too
I think you're being hysterical.
Meh, still riding around on a 26 inch HT with coil spring forks....just picked up some (brand new) forks for it that had been reduced by 50% because obviously nobody is buying 26 inch stuff any more....more fool them, the trails i ride havent changed because of 650b, 29ers or plus size tyres.
I cant help but think stuff like this is for people who live and breathe MTB-ing and MTB-ing only, they probably have it as their only hobby and therefore spend 2k+ every few years on a new bike complete with whatever new standards are floating around at the time and dont give a thought to the changing fixtures and fittings of said bike....the bike then appears complete on Ebay when they've finished paying it off and the cycle starts again.
I reckon people like me who buy a frame and then select components to build the bike up to my spec are diminishing....the industry doesnt want me to carry my forks over from build to build, it wants my forks obsolete in a couple of years so i have to eye up a new 2016 Stumpjumper or similar.
I'm skeptical about their stats saying 2.8 tyres only being 1% more draggy than smaller stuff, i know instantly when i've got a 2.5 on the back of my bike, it feels horrible compared to something narrower where outright speed is concerned....lies damn lies and statistics is the phrase isnt it?!
They are tapered steerer. Won't fit my 2010 bike. Not being hysterical at all. Just stating the bleeding obvious that spare parts for not that old bikes are getting fewer.
http://www.merlincycles.com/rockshox-revelation-rct3-dual-position-forks-26-65815.html
Others here
http://www.merlincycles.com/suspension-forks-81180/?brand=rockshox&wheel_size=26-
Yes, you are right of course, there is less out there but still enough to keep going with no real issues for now.
Good news for those of us looking for B+ tyres, rims and forks. I just wish Shimano would hurry up with the XT cranks.
It's definitely going to be more difficult to keep an old bike going with higher end kit.
I guess its a choice between buying cheaper stuff (less grippy tyres, forks with more basic damping, "Altus" level 9 speed stuff etc.) or buying a new bike every so often.
My issue with this is based purely on my inability to make a decision. This just adds an extra layer to my decision tree, meaning I'll sit on the internet procrastinating for months instead if actually buying a new bike/bits. I genuinely envy people who are able to easily walk into a shop & part with their money, and actually enjoy all this innovation whilst I stare miserably at my Wiggle shopping basket unable to click the button.
Well, that's not really a choice, as you know. If you love mountain biking and use it to keep physically and mentally healthy, it's not a choice at all...
If you, like most people in the UK, are a bit skint, buying a new bike is not an option... so giving up is all there is to do...
Cobblers. I had to buy a new bike a few months ago (broken frame on the old one). Second hand, eBay, £165. 26" wheels. It might be (okay, it is) heavier and generally not as good as a brand new £2K bike but on the other hand it does allow me to
love mountain biking and use it to keep physically and mentally healthy
so I don't really care.
I'll also add that looking at the 'show us your Alps bike thread' on here that 650b and plus sized tyres havent really filtered down to the harder side of MTB-ing yet....plenty of awesome looking 26 inch stuff on that thread running coil springs, normal sized tyres etc....ditto for the grass roots DH stuff i've done this year and pretty much all the uplift days too....
...who is buying this stuff because i never see it on the trails, being raced or being loaded onto the uplift trailer?!
(dons flame proof suit)...I hate to say it but this does all seem aimed at the middle aged, middle management, new comers to the sport who love a bit of trail centre carpark posing....nothing wrong with that as such, the marketing men have obviously done their research and worked out these guys and girls have the money to spend on new bikes every few years and push their products accordingly....but its the 'hey buy this its 1% better rolling than your current tyres' that annoys me....'and by the way you'll need Boost hubs, a new frame, fork etc...in fact why dont i show you our fantastic finance deals while we have a coffee'....that really grates.
Just feels like MTB-ing is becoming some kind of horrible aspirational golf substitute for mid-life crisis men who want the 'buying a new car' butt kissing experience from a salesman as they hand over their credit card for a flipping bike.
It's certainly put me off changing which is i think the opposite of what i am supposed to feel...i think i'm supposed to feel panic that my bike has become crap overnight and rush out to buy a new one but all it does is make me dig my heels in and make sure i have spares for my existing bikes when i see them reduced in sales.
What makes me laugh is the way that the industry changes what's important to suit their needs. A few years back, when they were pushing 29ers, all you ever heard about was speed. "Look our new bike is x% faster than whatever crap you are riding". Now they want to push plus sized stuff suddenly speed doesn't matter at all and it's all just about "fun". "Don't worry about the fact that it's heavier and slower, just look how much more fun we are having than you".
And on that note, I'm off to ride my 26" bike in the rain 🙂
And if I can't get replacement 26" tyres when these ones wear out
I'd be willing to bet that you'll still be able to find new 26-inch MTB tyres from somewhere long after the rest of your bike has worn out.
What makes me laugh is the way that the industry changes what's important to suit their needs. A few years back, when they were pushing 29ers, all you ever heard about was speed. "Look our new bike is x% faster than whatever crap you are riding". Now they want to push plus sized stuff suddenly speed doesn't matter at all and it's all just about "fun". "Don't worry about the fact that it's heavier and slower, just look how much more fun we are having than you".
Nailed it for me.
Marketing men say whatever nonsense needs to be said to justify the 'innovation' they're pushing this year....a huge pinch of salt is always recommended.
It's why i watch whats happening in racing from grass roots all the way to World Cups to see what actually works and what the riders jettison after a brief experiment and failure.
I may be wrong and 27.5+ may sweep the EWS, the BDS, the UKGE and the World Cup DHs by storm annihilating previous PB's, track records and the like....in which case i'll be first in line to hand over my money....but this all smacks a bit of desperation by the industry.
How about doing something worthwhile and getting rid of rear mechs?...where are the lightweight gear box bikes?...why do we still have spokes and wheels that go out of true?....
...all too difficult i suspect, instead lets convince a gullible public that going from a 2.5 rear to a 2.8 rear will really make all the difference out on a ride!
What makes me laugh is the way that the industry changes what's important to suit their needs. A few years back, when they were pushing 29ers, all you ever heard about was speed. "Look our new bike is x% faster than whatever crap you are riding". Now they want to push plus sized stuff suddenly speed doesn't matter at all and it's all just about "fun". "Don't worry about the fact that it's heavier and slower, just look how much more fun we are having than you".
no, what your doing there is just focusing on one aspect of the range and the press release of the day
Scott haven't dumped the rest of the range, they still do a whole host of fast 29ers
http://www.scott-sports.com/us/en/products/238230009/SCOTT-Scale-900-RC-Bike/#productdetail
I think the point is mountain biking is becoming a joyless experience. Manufacturers improvements seem to be more And more marginal, just different rather than better, and we seem to have model months rather than model years, and each product cycle seems to be a cynical minor improvement where you can't help but think they already know the next 2 iterations of the products and could include them all now but holding them back would make more money. Enduro and bike packing look really fun new directions but the bikes were being flogged to do it are getting less fun.
road seems simpler and funner at the moment, but BUT I'm not naive enough to think it isn't coming in road, with discs, hubs , axles, even wheel sizes now.
I think the point is mountain biking is becoming a joyless experience.
really? you know it is possible to ignore the industry and go ride a bike, any bike
I know you can ignore it but I like my sport. I like talking about it, reading about it and doing it. I object to manufacturers spoiling my enjoyment of the first two by pumping out increasingly cynical guff.
[i]I think the point is mountain biking is becoming a joyless experience.
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No way! Just because there are a bunch of stupid looking new bikes to buy/look at/write about. Doesn't mean the riding has changed. Still the best thing in the world.
I think the point is mountain biking is becoming a joyless experience.
I built a new bike this year, big wheels and called an enduro to really hit all the marketing bingo points. It is ****ing amazing, I mean really ridiculously ****ing amazing, it is the best bike I have ridden by a long long way, I wish I could have bought this bike 10 or 5 years ago, but I couldn't, but thank **** I can buy it now because it is amazing and I smile like mad every time I ride it.
Mountain biking hasn't become a joyless experience, it is just that a bunch of whining joyless curmudgeons who keep trying to bring everybody else down to their miserable level.
It's joyless to those who absolutely need to be seen with the latest, newest kit and now find they can't afford to keep up.
So scott are selling an (almost) fat bike with a motor - is that not a motocross bike??
Re. the joy of riding, how often do you actually look at what you or other people are riding on the trail?
[quote=scotroutes opined]It's joyless to those who absolutely need to be seen with the latest, newest kit and now find they can't afford to keep up.
I really dont care what I want is to be able to adequately fix what I have.
I cannot so I am a bit miffed that rather than spend money on say some forks I need to buy a frame and forks and wheels and a new seatpost.
Its not made me love the industry or the sport anymore but it wont stop me riding either.
What JY said. I understand that some companies have built businesses around it, but it's my way of enjoying myself. The fact that we are just being so obviously used as cash cows is seriously tainting it for me.
On the plus side, my 26 has a crack and is still in warranty. It is highly unlikely that the manufacturer will have any spare swing arms so this means BRAND NEW FRAME!!!!
Cheers 650B!
I don't get the hysteria about new kit. If you don't want it or can't afford it, don't buy it! As for joyless, I bought an "enduro" style Five just over a year ago and I haven't stopped smiling since. The gear we have these days (droppers, 150/160mm forks which arnt anchors and don't need much servicing, 1x11 gearing and frames which are light enough to climb up but burly enough to hit a downhill run) is in my opinion the best we've had it, you reallt can have one bike to do it all! And on the other side of the coin, if you really do feel these parts are pointless and take the fun out of the sport just ride what you have until it breaks and then when the time comes to replace it, simply buy the best bike you can afford at the time; you know, like you did when you bought your last one?
What's all that crap hanging down from the BB? Crap place for cables
OMG it's also the brake hose running loosely under the BB. Will I die?
like Bright said,
only been in mtb since 08, and since then, there has always been change! 8 speed was in, 9 speed on the way
people have short term memory's as for joyless experience, read less, ride more .................
I think the thing that bothers me about B+, is the way it started as "Here's a thing you can do with your existing bikes". And so it was for a little while, then you could see the gears shift as the industry realised it wasn't going to sell any new bikes.
What we actually need, is good info on what existing bikes will take b+ wheels and tyres.
So scott are selling an (almost) fat bike with a motor - is that not a motocross bike??
No, it would need 21" front and 19" rear wheels. I'm still annoyed that they changed the rear from 18 to 19.
badbob - Memberonly been in mtb since 08, and since then, there has always been change! 8 speed was in, 9 speed on the way
people have short term memory's
So it would seem!
You're about 10 years late there, 9 speed was introduced in 98 ❗
[quote=deviant ]I'm skeptical about their stats saying 2.8 tyres only being 1% more draggy than smaller stuff, i know instantly when i've got a 2.5 on the back of my bike, it feels horrible compared to something narrower where outright speed is concerned....lies damn lies and statistics is the phrase isnt it?!
Yeah, I'm also sceptical - I'd expect the wider tyre to be faster on proper off road bumpy stuff, as all the tests show that wider is faster up to more normal widths. When comparing like with like that is. You are comparing like with like aren't you? What XC spec 2.5 is that you have?
[quote=wrecker ]On the plus side, my 26 has a crack and is still in warranty. It is highly unlikely that the manufacturer will have any spare swing arms so this means BRAND NEW FRAME!!!!
Cheers 650B!
You reckon? Got a new swingarm for my 26" 2007 Scott last year when they'd left that wheelsize behind, and more pertinently moved on from the frame design I had over 5 years before.
I've always been very sceptical about the whole 27[s].5[/s] business - though I can see the advantages of 29, which is what I'd be getting if I was buying a new bike. The plethora of new wheel standards (rim, tyre, axle) is a bit ridiculous. Though I have to admit to being kind of pleased at the emergence of B+ for my little niche - I have a 29er frame which has enough width to take a 3" tyre but not quite enough crown height for 29+, whilst I'd like a fatter tyre I'm happy with the diameter/gear ratio I have with my 29, if anything a tiny bit lower gear would be fine. I reckon I'll now be getting B+ rather than the planned mid-wide 29 when I build a new wheel for it.
[quote=TheDoctor ]You're about 10 years late there, 9 speed was introduced in 98
Are you splitting the difference between 9 speed and 9 speed MTB? Because 98 isn't quite right for either 😉
These threads are getting amazingly silly.
Bunch of curmudgeonly old chaps sitting around on the internet grousing about how a new bike from Scott has sucked the joy out of mountainbiking and forced you to give up.
Some of you are increasingly sounding like those Australians who're going to get divorced because [url= http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/11/couple-divorce-marriage-equality-australia_n_7558506.html ]The Gay Has Ruined Marriage[/url] for them. (Less unpleasant, obvs., but nearly as.... peculiar.)
😉
There's some relentlessly angry responses on these sorts of threads these days!
26" is still the dominate wheel size, by a hugely wide margin, the idea that you won't be able to buy tyres or rims or spokes is laughable
tapered steerers have been around and mainstream for at least 5 years now, and yet still you can get straight steerer versions of pretty much every fork, and still in 26" versions
26" is still the dominate wheel size, by a hugely wide margin, the idea that you won't be able to buy tyres or rims or spokes is laughable
Clearly it is laughable for now at least . But the issue for many is the quality of what will be available. I had heard specialised (unconfirmed and not picking on them) had ditched some or all of its 26" tyre range, which are really good value, decent quality tyres for those on a reduced/careful (not tight) budget.
So if others at the £30 tubeless ready, grip ok, price point follow suit this will have some impact on those who can't afford to make the wheel size leap in terms of quality of riding.
Ultimately we may/will see this on forks, rims and other parts.
This matters more than the switch from say 25.4 stems to 31.8 etc because the cost of change from old good quality to new good quality is astronomically different.
[i] you can get straight steerer versions of pretty much every fork, and still in 26" versions[/i]
but not with QR!
Liteville appear to have done 26+ but rather than giving it a new name have just got big tyres and wide rims!
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Imagine this.
You were a maker of things and the 26 thing you produced trickled out the door because everyone already has 26 things.
Opportunity arrises to re-tool to produce 27.5 things, which will fly out the door and at a higher margin.
After some time sale would drop down to a trickle again because everyone would then have 27.5 things, but no more/less than before.
The end state would be the same, you will not 'alienate' the market, because the market is huge and steered by people bigger than you. What would you do? turn down the opportunity for a large profit?
I effectively have - I hardly ride MTB these days cos it's much cheaper generally to ride road.
If you can choose do to that then I'm not sure you actually like MTBing! You'd have to pay me to go road biking rather than mountain biking, even in the depths of winter when its' mudtastic around here.
There are tons of 26" tyres out there, most of which are better than old Nobby Nics! My 26" Soul usually wears Rubber Queens. You can't get Pikes in straight steerer (which has stopped me buying a set for the Soul) but plenty of other forks have straight steerers.
Northwind - MemberWhat we actually need, is good info on what existing bikes will take b+ wheels and tyres.
I just started a thread for that:
this popped up on MTBR this morning, ill just leave it here
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You reckon? Got a new swingarm for my 26" 2007 Scott last year when they'd left that wheelsize behind, and more pertinently moved on from the frame design I had over 5 years before.
I'm awaiting a response, but I can see on MTBR that the rears have been hard to come by with people being given other models instead.
I dunno, I'll be happy with a new rear swingarm but a new frame would be very nice!
I wouldn't mind all these new standards if all the old standards were a bit cheaper (read dirt cheap) Do I need to wait a couple more years?
and yet still you can get straight steerer versions of pretty much every fork, and still in 26" versions
YOu had to add a caveat so it proves the point you are trying to negate.
You cannot you can get some forks in this size but they are few and far between
The PIKE for example only comes in tapered so there are not as many new designed forks but yes you can get "old" stock or the same fork you could 5 years ago in some limited models
Bunch of curmudgeonly old chaps sitting around on the internet grousing about how a new bike from Scott has sucked the joy out of mountain biking and forced you to give up.
Whilst they are over reacting the point was about the industries relentless pursuit to make money by endlessly introducing a new standard each year for everything. Would you like to argue this is not happening ?
Whilst they are over reacting the point was about the industries relentless pursuit to make money by endlessly introducing a new standard each year for everything. Would you like to argue this is not happening ?
They've always done this though: I remember my Dad moaning about it and he died 16 years ago!
This sport is becoming a parody of itself. I recall a year or so back, a joke line on here that - because 650b wasn't actually 27.5", the next move would be actually be a shift to the real 27.5".
Ho Ho.
Wouldn't that be so silly we all thought.
I give up. 😐