elzorillo - MemberGot the description...
Worksop Guardian
Am a bit worried i'll get stopped now !,i live in Worksop with the same bike !,only wi black fox 36's...agh well,@ least the plod are doing there job if i get stopped eh !..hope they get the ****ers..
Got the description.
Hoody, shell suit trews and trainers.
That ain't going to narrow the search, is it?
binners - Member
You want to put CCTV in is what is effectively the countryside, on the strength of one person having their bike nicked?
Rother Valley Country Park is not countryside. It's surrounded by housing estates.
Cheers for the helpful comment though
It would be in the park's interest to invest in some level of security to give it's visitors some peace of mind. I know I won't be in a rush to get down there
Re: Top cap tracker. Looks like you can arm it by texting it from your phone. Would have to wait til it 'woke up' to detect that and from then would alert you evertime bike was moved.
I've e-mailed them just to see if they would offer discount for 10/20/30 units
And Binners, if you'd bothered to read all the thread and maybe do a little research before making ****tish comments you'd realise the thefts have been ongoing at Rother Valley and the surrounding areas for decades, not just a one off as you wrongly claim
Terrible experience you've had there 14gg and I hope you get over it OK.
I really hope your local police force put some resources into catching the miscreants as if they get away with it this time, they may well be tempted to try it again. The next time it might end up with someone being hurt.
CCTV is not a practicable answer to a crime like this though is it?
last year somebody posted up on here a description of a bike they'd had nicked. I saw some little scrote riding it out of the local Asda, so contacted the police with the time and location. My assumption being that as it was on CCTV they could ID them.
The police checked the footage and said it was so poor quality, they couldn't possibly ID the thief. Which was gutting!
And do you really think it'd stop them anyway. They'd put their hoodies up and move location slightly. The only logical extension would be to CCTV the whole country
I'm not looking for an argument. Just pointing out the obvious issues and limitations that it isn't a solution. But do feel free to carry on wading into me though. You're obviously on some indignant roll 🙄
Been concerned that this kind of thing is going to occur the more expensive bikes there are out there, and really the one place they're not secured is on the trail other than from yourself riding or holding onto it.
This article was interesting on the reasons why bike theft is so prominent even though they are relatively a poor return, even for the expensive bikes, compared to other forms of theft - http://blog.priceonomics.com/post/30393216796/what-happens-to-stolen-bicycles
To summarise, the reason is simply that it's one of the lowest risk forms of theft.
But this though! Aggrevated robbery. That elevates it from the regular 'nothing will be done about it' bike theft to a serious crime. That places it at a much higher risk surely and they'd likely get less for the bike as they'd be keen to offload it quick, so rather pointless.
In which case hopefully they don't see much value in doing it.
I'm curious what your practicable answer is?
I wonder if you could invent some kind of detonating tire valve, where you send it an SMS or bluetooth signal if close enough and it fails, flattening the tires instantly. Might be useful in grab-and-ride situations like this.
Or better yet fails the brakes.
top cap isnt the only gps system you can get one for pets fits onto their collar. small enough to fit inside bars or stem? but why should we have too, why are we the ones having to fork out for the protection of our own property?.... once caught should be shipped in shell suit and trainers to north pole and left to fend for themselves
They clearly had no understanding of quality MTBs though, stealing an Orange 5 FFS
Genius!! 😆
wonder if you could invent some kind of detonating tire valve, where you send it an SMS or bluetooth signal if close enough and it fails, flattening the tires instantly. Might be useful in grab-and-ride situations like this.Or better yet fails the brakes.
Liking this, maybe it could jettison the front QR?
Liking this, maybe it could jettison the front QR?
Exploding lawyer tabs (for older models) or an ejecting/intruding seatpost ftw!
Stopped going to RVCP ages ago, used to windsurf there but became so paranoid about the safety of the van while I was out on the water it took away all the pleasure - Sunday turned into a Chavfest as they hooned around in all sorts of Corsa/Clio/Nova derivatives.
There were so many ways in for a scooter/trail bike from the far side it would be incredibly hard to police. CCTV not an option, rangers perhaps, but if they are carrying big knives who would be daft enough to challenge them.
Can plod set them up or does that become entrapment?
There was a show on tv a few years ago where they booby trapped cars and bikes, cars filling with smoke etc or foam, and bikes seting of smoke flares as far as i can remember.
As for protection, a can of deoderant squirted towards them at face level,works well or wd 40, all legal and easily purchased, and you where defending yourself, or oiling your bike or just smelling good for the new freind.
Tere is going to be a lot more cases of this for the next few weeks as the ones who can read will see it as an easy way to make some cash.
Matt - I don't know about you, but if people are being held up at knife-point then I'd hope the police would be considering a bit more robust response than a couple of CCTV cameras, to be honest. That's proper scary shit!!!
Yeah, but what exactly?
And even if the police do show a more robust response, how long do you think that will last?
They must be desperate people to risk life imprisonment for a bike
Are you for real? It's not a "bike".
@Coyote: They threatened him with a deadly weapon. If he had fought, he might have been murdered. If you threaten with a deadly weapon you risk life imprisonment - for a bike you might fence for a few hundred quid.
That's desperate IMO
Dan Draper just posted on the ThisISheffield facebook saying he knows who stole your bike
I would have endo-smashed the knife out of their hands. Mind you, I've had inspiration.
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Je3HMbL3pas/
Obviously, glad you're OK etc, will keep my eyes peeled for the bike.
superficial you diamond...i have been looking for that for ages
🙂
Glad you are OK, will look out for the bike
Glad to hear you're OK. I had a similar (but less severe) experience years ago (Raleigh Activator.....) and to be fair, as soon as they knew a weapon was involved, the Police were around within a few hours and ID'd the shit that nicked it. They even recovered the bike.
Sadly my mother was too Christian to press charges on the c**t.
I saw these scumbags just after this happened!
I was just about leaving the car park near Grant and McAllin with my son on our bikes.
I saw the motorbike with two people on it and their faces covered, and then a couple of minutes later I saw your bike being rode by a young lad, with hoody pulled around his face. I said to my son that I should go after them but, he didn't want me too, I do actually feel racked with guilt that I didn't call the police, but I have since called them on the number you supplied and an hopefully seeing them later today!
Just for your information they came over the railway and then turned right onto the track before the stile heading towards Beighton.
One other point, one person said that they would head to Chesterfield, this I find very unlikely, as once you head up to to Beighton there are a network of tracks (which I have ridden) taking you up to Richmond, and the manor, if you know this area it is ridden with thieves, druggies and lots of low lives! If you live here and aren't one I'll apologize now!
Mattboyslim - and word about the scrote who nicked it??
As I said, the ThisISheffield Facebook group posted about the attack and a guy called Dan Draper replied sayin he knows who stole it. He said message him for names. I looked on his profile on my phone but 'message' was greyed out so left him a reply saying 'name and shame'
shaun68 - thank you for your post and contacting the police, its really appreciated. I'm glad you didn't approach them - your son was bang on and probably wise beyond his years! Just to give everyone an update, the police have been in touch today to say they have once again had a search team along the TPT and have found some of my stuff including my car key and my favourite Lezyne multi tool! So thats good - just hope they get the offenders. Thanks to everyone for your support, it feels good to know that even though we aren't in an actual MTB club and even if we don't all ride together as a club, it feels like we do. Some of you have even managed to cheer me up a bit as well.
a little good news
Three 16yr old males have been arrested and bailed for this Robbery, I'm sure the victim will update us in due course with any further info!
Trevor.
Excuse my ignorance but how on Earth do you get bail after being arrested for robbing someone at knifepoint!!??
Basically it's because the system is a bit broken and the sh1tbags that do this kind of thing have too many rights. They'll get a slap on the wrist and a few hours of community service and then be free to do it all again.
More importantly was the bike recovered?
Excuse my ignorance but how on Earth do you get bail after being arrested for robbing someone at knifepoint!!??
The prisons are full, basically. And despite the fiery rhetoric from politicians, they know they can't afford to build any more either. The scumbags are very very aware of this. And know full-well that short of murdering someone, they'll be straight out on bail and will probably end up with a community service order. Which they'll then ignore
beacuse the legal system removes vengencance from it's deliberations in an attempt to seek justice.
Charged with an offence does not mean you are guilty - should everyone charged by banged up when they are all still innocent
i could go on but the hang em high lobby dont care
OP glad you are unhurt, glad someone has been charged and I hope you get your bike back and get back out there on the trails.
Charged with an offence does not mean you are guilty - should everyone charged by banged up when they are all still innocent
True; but the nature of what is going to be laid at their door left me rather suprised that they did get bail.Even if the slate is wiped cleam when they turn 16.
Happy end would be the recovery of the bike; any news from the OP?
really hope this doesn't become more common, the drive by bike robbery. this is what's worried me when riding alone, more than having stuff nicked from home. that rhymed. having a bike without a recognisable name might help, or is it just "oooh shiny", in which case i'm f***ed.
OP you sound pretty cool i'd be very unhappy with that. never been robbed touch wood, know plenty of people who'v had phones etc nicked.. some of them still don't like to talk about it.
Unfortunately a lot of scrotes are rather adept at the instant valuation. They clock you riding past and you can see them doing the mental calculations of how much it will fetch on Gumtree/Ebay/Down the pub
Good news on getting them. Did the Op get bike back ?
good news for the OP
Good news all round for all of us I reckon. The fact that they have some perps in the frame for this is good. The bike may have been recovered or they will hopefully following the path to recover it.
Lets see how the story pans out and then what the justice system does. So far so good.
Being charged with any violent crime should rule out bail imo.
Fingers and toes crossed that they get a sentence that fits the crime.
They should lay them down on the trail and let us all try to bunny hop over them...
I'll buy a pair of these to lend out to all who'd like a go at teamslug's game
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Is that a real advert? It's a bit, erm, tragic.
Glad to hear that the police have found the possible culprits and lets hope that an aggravated robbery charge is pressed
Here's hoping that a proper sentence accompanies the charge
Any news on the bike recovery?
Further update for all those wondering. No charges have yet been brought against these three, they are on bail pending 'further enquiries'. As yet I remain bike less, but chomping at the bit to get out again as soon as the replacement arrives. The ins company are being fine about it but surprised to find out I have to pay for a new one then claim it back! Credit card will have to take another hit then.... Thanks for all the support.
Take it they have sold yours on?
Having found out on a few occasions what peroxide feels like in the eyes from a few silly moments involving contact lens fitting.. I would buy a wee garden sprayer with bike wash scribbled on the side and fill it up.
Just carry it in the side pouch of a camelbak and be more than happy to give them the bike but insisting you clean off the dog muck on the tires before stealing it. Then maybe grin and ask if they want a wee scrub too.. squirting one of them in the eyes,followed by the others. Just make sure the nozzle is always set on full pelt and not on a lame mist.
Sounds great martinxyz, but you'll get done for assault in this crazy world.
I still think the penalty of drastic penis shortening should be introduced.
How would you get done for assault though? As if the 3 scrotum's would approach the Police and complain "that some dude on an Orange 5 just sprayed peroxide in our eyes whilst trying to hijack his bike"
[i]I still think the penalty of drastic penis shortening should be introduced. [/i]
I'd like to see them try and make my penis much shorter.
I think although this thread is terrible because of its original post and the gravity of the situation, scum think it's ok to take stuff from hard working folk. The thread shows compassion for our fellow man and like 14gg says it like riding with a club. Although that is true there is something that's been missed by the stw massif. 14gg is 53! So says the police report. I hope when I'm 53 I'm still riding a bike let alone a nice new bouncy bike!
Come on the legal system.............if that fails I have some rusty bolt shears for the shortening ceremony.
I am pleasantly astonished that the police even took it remotely seriously. That wasn't my experience.
Good luck OP. I hope you're soon back on a bike.
Well I'm not about to start getting tooled up to go riding, just in case someone tries to rob me.
Defeats the object a bit doesn't it?
1. Glad the Police take it seriously
2. I hope that proper action is taken against the offenders
3. i hope you get back out on your bike
4. To the spray them with peroxide idea. For a moment ignore morality. Most of us can't afford to take the law into our own hands. A fine for assault would end my career. You may think that its obviuos that you were defending your property but in this case there'd be 4 witness, 3 would claim you were in the wrong....