[Closed] road rage,Woman blocks road and claims cyclist is attacking her

No wonder cyclists have a bad name, what a c"ck

He was technically correct but went about it like a prize tool.

should have tarmac'd her drive

Not entirely sure what I would have done in that situation....

As the driver, I would have apologised and pull over to the right.

As the cyclist... hmmm... no idea. I'd be stumped. Ride to the left hand side of the car? Can't go to the right, as thats the wrong side.

At the beginning I was on his side but he handled it like a bit of a pr**k!

She's on the wrong side of the road.

He's a bell end.

Nothing else useful to say.

He's not being rude, he's just speaking irish.

Watched some more of the videos on YouTube....jeez, these holier than thou helmet cam warriors need to get a grip!!

Watched some more of the videos on YouTube....jeez, these holier than thou helmet cam warriors need to get a grip!

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I think you're right.

I don't blame him for having words, she's driving like a ****. Dunno why you'd bother uploading it onto the internet though. As if to prove 4x4 drivers are idiots or something. Everyone already knows that..

The video actually makes it appear as if he came round the corner fairly quickly.
The distance to the junction from the parked car means she probably moved out before he came around the corner driving defensively anticipating an oncoming car.

He's a prize tool and could have handled that far better.

She could still, at that point, have moved over to her left again to leave him room to pass on the correct side of the car. Where was he supposed to go once she stopped?

(but yes, he's a tool for reacting like that)

A bit extreme, but she was worse to be fair. And it's difficult to see how he was going to get past without a confrontation, she was completely blocking the road for no reason.

The cyclist is a knob out looking for confrontation. He adjust his line has he turns so that he just misses the car to prove a point then looks for the next person to have a go at. Could have been resolved with the cyclist slowing down and moving closer to the kerb and the driver most likely have done the same.

+1 butcher

The cyclist is a knob out looking for confrontation. He adjust his line has he turns so that he just misses the car to prove a point then looks for the next person to have a go at. Could have been resolved with the cyclist slowing down and moving closer to the kerb and the driver most likely have done the same.

Give em an inch and they'll take a yard.

+2 Butcher. It's clearly up to her to pull back to her side of the road and wait. If the cyclist had been a car she'd doubtless have done just that. And we have no idea if that's the 10th eejit he's encountered on his commute. It's often a cumulative effect.

Personally I'd have hopped onto the pavement, given her the finger and carried on. Some battles just aren't worth the increase in blood pressure.

Cyclist is fully entitled to be a jeb end as he's caught that dirty cow out good and proper! What if it had been a child wandering up the road while she was cursing down the wrong side of the road in a hi viz! That Irish bloke should defo have dropped trou and defacated on her bonnet to teach her a lesson!

Both tools.

Pointy, pointy finger... You can see it in the bottom of the frame, nothing gets an already arsey Woman more wound up like being loudly berated and pointed at.

I can see his problem, he has right of way, she's not read the road ahead and/or assumed he'll go to the right, of course then he'd be on the wrong side of the road with a line of on coming traffic...

That said I don't see why relatively minor traffic balls ups where nobody actually gets hurt require such angry altercations.

He was looking for a shouting match to get on camera and prove how utterly right he is about road traffic...

TBH stopping to argue never resolves a thing, unless you've got some good one liners and a camera on your noggin to help stoke the fires on youtube, and stroke your road warrior ego...

Both being dicks really.

Jesus Mary an Joseph, there's some right ****in eejits in this world.

Car driver is a clown and mentioned road tax, tried to put on an Oscar winning performance once she knew she had lost the argument. Cyclist is a bit sweary but in fairness is also Irish so this has to be taken in mitigation

Overall though a lot more entertaining than most commuting videos

There are too many 'cyclists' getting GoPros. then go looking/making confrontation all to get youtube subscriptions thus making money.

check out sonsofwinds Im sure he is related to a few on here! mudt have a few cameras looks a right tool!

Well, you can't knock her approach to health and safety can you - wearing a High Viz vest to drive the car 😆

May 2013!?!?!?

What does a driver have to do for you toi suggest they may be in the wrong?

Incorrect side of the road - Check
Claims he is in the middle of the road whilst on the wrong side of the road - CHECK
Room to move over to let him go on the correct side - CHeck
Gets hysterical- Check

Now he was nto the politest man in the world but what is he meant to do when she say s he is in the middle of the road when there is not even enough room on his side of the road to pass her?

I dont know if folk are being serious with their response here tbh

I don't see why relatively minor traffic balls ups where nobody actually gets hurt require such angry altercations.

How on earth can she open her door in order to shout at him for being in the middle of the road and have a go at him - looks like he has done muttering and just going past tbh he make no attempt to start a conversation with her

May 2013!?!?!?

I could have sworn this has been posted before...

just a pair of ****s i couldnt care less about

Sorry, but I don't see what the cyclist did wrong. Certainly not in how he rode, and not really in how he handled the situation - I mean what exactly was he supposed to do?

[quote=craigxxl ]The cyclist is a knob out looking for confrontation. He adjust his line has he turns so that he just misses the car to prove a point then looks for the next person to have a go at. Could have been resolved with the cyclist slowing down and moving closer to the kerb and the driver most likely have done the same.

Eh, what are you on about? Have you actually watched the video? He takes a natural cornering line, is nowhere near the first car, despite it being on the wrong side of the road for no obvious reason and doesn't even comment on it, yet alone abuse the driver. Not exactly the actions of somebody out looking for confrontation is it? Are you serious about the car driver moving if he moves closer to the kerb? She's already had plenty of time to do so and not done anything.

I do sometimes wonder whether people on here actually ride bikes given the comments on videos like this where the car driver is clearly in the wrong and the cyclist clearly in the right.

I know this is an MTB oriented forum but I wish cyclists would show a little more solidarity to each other. The cyclist did nothing wrong in his cycling. Nothing. He found his way blocked by an absolute pecker who should not have a driving licence.

Personally I wouldn't have bothered with escalating the confrontation like he did. This woman is far too stupid to be reasoned with. I would have given her a little round of applause then passed her on the right.

But you can't blame him for being angry. Cycle commuters (I am one) sometimes have to stand up for themselves.

People blaming the cyclist, "holier than thou" or whatever, just sound like the Daily Mail readers who think that cyclists are second class citizens.

She was being ridiculous... But if it was me tbh I would have just hoped the kerb and gone past not worth the hassle.

Loved the guy in the passat saying "good on ya man" after he calls her an areshole 😆

[quote=hebdencyclist ]I would have given her a little round of applause then passed her on the right.

The trouble with that is that there were other vehicles behind her and he could have got stuck there. Far better to just hop up on the pavement. Other than that your post is a beacon of sanity amongst all the idiots on this thread.

He was bang on for having a go at the daft old bag. She has no idea WTF is going on and then has a instant menopause followed by drama overload.

People like that will sue at the slightest chance and complain about everything. Useless individual.

Bring back evolution, that's what I say.

I don't see what the cyclist has done wrong, though I'd have been less agumentative/confrontational.

Driver was unbelievable.

The car is clearly driving on the wrong side of the road. The stupid women could have easily moved over, but didn't.
If I was the cyclist, my response would have been a lot worse.

Phew, the asylum has collected its inmates and normality appears to be restored.

He was bang on for having a go at the daft old bag. She has no idea WTF is going on and then has a instant menopause followed by drama overload.

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I really don't get why people are saying the cyclist was in the wrong. He was blocked by the woman. There was nothing he did which caused this - in no way was he looking to create that incident. He went past on the pavement, the only place he could go. It was her that stopped and blocked the traffic and was shouting nonsense at him.

This thread just goes to show how people hate bikes on the road, even in a mountain bike forum!

Why is she wearing a hi viz and why is the car seat wearing a hi viz, and why does she need a 4 x 4 to troll around town.

He got a bit too instantly sweary and indignant when they were facing each other in the road, but other than that didn't do a thing wrong IMO. Handled the argument with dignity 😀

Reminds me a bit of the woman who, after attempting an ill-judged overtake and having to pull back in, reacted to my shake of the head and 'how was that ever going to work' body language by yelling at me, in a red-faced rage, "YOU NEED TO GO ON AN ANGER MANAGEMENT COURSE!!!!"

Reminds me a bit of the woman who, after attempting an ill-judged overtake and having to pull back in, reacted to my shake of the head and 'how was that ever going to work' body language by yelling at me, in a red-faced rage, "YOU NEED TO GO ON AN ANGER MANAGEMENT COURSE!!!!"

While she is in the wrong, I really can't see that starting a stand off is the best way to resolve the situation. Guy's a prick if you ask me, who's achieved nothing apart from getting his own blood pressure up.

I half expected the cyclist to lamp the pedestrian just to relieve some stress.

But JY's right - it's just doe snot...

Peter Sagaan style hop onto the roof of the car would diffused the situation quite nicely.

How exactly did he start anything? As for a stand off what exactly are you suggesting he does when faced with the car there doing that?
She is on the wrong side of the road and he remonstrates with her from a distance as there is nowhere safe or legitimate for him to go and she can still pull over but does not
As they pass she starts the conversation not him and FFS look at her reaction during the chat.
How on earth anyone can criticise him for his reaction when she starts the conversation and claims he is in the middle of the road when she is entirely on the wrong side of the road and she ends it with claims of assault whilst getting hysterical

There are some odd folk on here and what dies a car driver have to do to get the blame run him over from behind whilst shouting die scum...even then some tit would be on here explaining why the cyclist was in the wrong and we did not see what happened earlier

I hope you are all trolling

+1 JY

All hail the great car. We must worship the car. The car always has right of way. (Even when on the wrong side of the road) stupid 4x4 drivers can bully everyone else. Stupid drivers must never be told they're wrong.
All hail the great car.

FFS look at her reaction during the chat

Indeed. The way she starts bleating about being a woman, alone.

I hate that sort of shit...

It was IRELAND, that sort of thing happens there quite often, also ther was a vehicle behing the cyclist so would she have moved for them

If I'd ridden around the corner and come across the same situation I'd have certainly been a bit pished off at where her car was. Sure the cyclist over reacted a bit... on a good day I'd have politely said she was in the wrong place and indicated she needed to be over on her side of the road, then cycled around and left her alone. On a bad day I'd have wheelied over her bonnet, crapped through her sunroof and left her to seeth. 😉

not listened to the audio so dunno if he was overly sweary, if confronted by the same I can't see many people not at the very least muttering a couple of swearies under their breath, most likely a "WTF are you doing" said loudly. Driver had plenty of time to see the cyclist and move over to her left as she should have done.

If it was me in a good mood I'd have approached slowly make sure traffic behind was slow/stopped enough to let me go down the right of her (while calling her an idiot) and rejoin the left side of the road. In a bad mood I'd have just silently stood my ground* and waited (and waited) for her to move.

As for "Helmet cam warrior looking for trouble" comments....yawn, change the record.

*making sure I could easily get out of the way if she turned mental.

Amusing how there was a thread the other week about someone who had a similar situation but in cars, and most peoples response was that he over reacted getting out and getting angry. This situation is no different, just a cyclist and car, she wasn't going to run him over she was stopped. A polite word might have been in order, but ranting and raving is ridiculous.

As for "Helmet cam warrior looking for trouble" comments....yawn, change the record

I dont think theres an increase in the number of helmet cam warriors, just an increase in people using cams and showing the world what has frankly been happening for aons on our roads to cyclists. Now there is more cyclists, therefore more awareness in the public domain, vive la revolution.

she wasn't going to run him over she was stopped.

A polite word might have been in order

, but ranting and raving is ridiculous.

You just have to be trolling I have nothing further to say as I am not feeding you and your views are BS and utter;ly at odds with the evidence presented.

DONK its worth listening to

Cyclist bit sweary in road at start not ranting but not polite
Cycles past muttering
She starts conversation by saying to him he was in middle of road - yes really she started it with that
He gets sweary back
She says lone women and then starts screaming [ literally] about assault
She acts basically a bit mental
Car driver behind her says well done son to him as he passes

I'm a cyclist/ have been for 38 years.
That car was about to overtake parked cars when the bike met her so she was in the right hand lane.
He then proceeds to talk like a bellend.
She was in the right.

Indeed it is standard procedure to drive down the road on the wrong side of the road to get past an obstruction on your side and if you meet anything its is clearly there fault and you are in the right

Good point well made :roll@:

The parked car on her side ergo she gives way. She was in the wrong.

I believe the actual rule is that first to the obstruction has right of way. Obviously, if it's a close-run thing then the correct thing to do is give way to the vehicle NOT having to carry out the extra manoeuvre.

She wasn't signalling either.

the cyclist had right of way, he had been travelling down the road long enough to be seen by the driver and its his side of the road, he has right of way there, she must defer. she was actually pulling out way before the cars and way before she needed trying to claim right of way as car drivers often do. Doesnt make it right. so I completely disagree with ^. I'd also say she wasnt going to get far as clearly the road ahead is already pretty full of cars waiting to get out the junction. looking at where her car was she clearly doesnt know the width of her car.

[quote=iolo ]That car was about to overtake parked cars when the bike met her so she was in the right hand lane.
He then proceeds to talk like a bellend.
She was [s]in[/s] on the right.

FTFY - because that's the only way your comment makes sense. Cyclist was already passing parked cars when he met her - she hadn't yet got to them. What was he supposed to do? Oh, and it was actually her talking like a bell end.

That car was about to overtake parked cars when the bike met her so she was in the right hand lane.

She was in the right.

All those suggesting car driver is right, cyclist is wrong, can you try imagining that cyclist is actually driving a car and then deciding who is right? Because I can only assume that you're determining right of way on the basis that cyclist has less right to be on the road.

I've reported iolo's post, because the only purpose of that comment (Im assuming he's not that delusional) is trolling.

I think everyone was in agreement that the driver was in the wrong but the cyclist overreacted slightly and was a bit of a nobber, until that is the usual suspects came along, twisted what they had read, then started arguing with people and calling them trolls for expressing a viewpoint.

I believe the actual rule is that first to the obstruction has right of way

I thought that if the obstruction is on your side of the road you give way.

[quote=tpbiker ]I think everyone was in agreement that the driver was in the wrong

I think you need to re-read the thread

until that is the usual suspects came along, twisted what they had read, then started arguing with people and calling them trolls for expressing a viewpoint.

Usual suspects being those talking sense, and the others being stupid or trolls?

That car was about to overtake parked cars when the bike met her so she was in the right hand lane.
[s]He then proceeds to talk like a bellend.[/s] IRRELEVANT BIT
She was in the right.

Some people have too much time on their hands and are way too stressed for their own good. She made a move to go down the bit of road left after the parked car took up their share without taking into account the cyclist. Not ideal but at least she stopped before coming completely alongside the parked car.

I'm afraid the most that would have garnered from me would have been the international sign for "what gives?" (wrinkled nose and quizzical look with maybe an upturned palm if feeling particularly continental and flamboyant) and pedalled past on the empty part of the road to her right thinking no more about it.

But then again I don't go around with a camera on my head and publish video evidence on the internet so maybe I don't have the 'issues' that bloke clearly does. It could however be argued that getting your knickers in a twist (one way or the other) about this, 3rd hand, on an internet forum is also a sign of sad sackness.

... so you've gone on to a forum to complain about sad sacks complaining about a cyclist that shouldn't be complaining? Doesn't that elevate you into a new category of 4th hand complaining nonsense?

happens more than it should. drivers try to bully you out of the way I dont dont give the inch!

I would have rode past her and honestly not given a toss and never thought of it again.

... so you've gone on to a forum to complain about sad sacks complaining about a cyclist that shouldn't be complaining? Doesn't that elevate you into a new category of 4th hand complaining nonsense?

I am very much putting myself in the sad sack camp (sorry if this did not come across in original post) along with everyone else motivated enough to bother posting. We all need to get out more!

singlespeed shep + 1

Not trolling.
She was just a bit early overtaking the parked car.
When the cyclist turned into the junction she was anticipating overtaking the parked cars so was in the right hand lane.
All the cars behind her were also in the same lane.
Were they all in the wrong too?

+1 for what JY and Donk have written.

I haven't listened with audio but she wasn't driving with due care and attention and should not have pulled over having seen someone approaching (which she did very early and without indication). He was visible for at least 6 seconds.

I think the better approach (if you wanted to be a cock about it) would have been sit on your bike, point to her car and the opposite side of the road, fold your arms and wait for her to move. Without saying a word.

Most would probably just shake there head, call her a silly cow or something like that and carry on about their business.

Pair of prize bell ends who could have both dealt with it better. If you want confrontation you can find it anywhere. Can't see why people get worked up by such trivia.

happens more than it should. drivers try to bully you out of the way I dont dont give the inch!

I would have rode past her and honestly not given a toss and never thought of it again.

Iolo. When the cyclist turned the corner she was on the left hand side of the road. You might want to consider a trip to specsavers!

All the cars behind her were also in the same lane.
Were they all in the wrong too?

This is however interesting:-

happens more than it should. drivers try to bully you out of the way I dont dont give the inch!

She was just a bit early overtaking the parked car.

Two people who viewed he same bit of film..... I think it says quite lot about people's perceptions - how much of what we see is what we want to see. Or maybe some people are too passive and forgiving whilst others live in a paranoid 'the world is out to get me' mindset.

Every single piece of go-pro helmet cam, street warrior footage should just carry this mandatory legal disclaimer:

Everyone involved with the making of this film, both in front of, and behind, the camera is an utter and complete ****!!!

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