[Closed] Rigid forks for MTB

Wheel size?

I had some of these on a SS 29er

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HYLIX-MTB-Rigid-Carbon-Fork-XC-Cx-29er-510g-Straight-Mountain-bike-/271095935457?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1e93b1e1

Swift with err, swift forks here (29er obviously) and like "on-one, but not on-one" steel forks on my SS chameleon. Both ride fine and I have to say that I don't feel unduly disabled by not having suspension.*

*disclaimer, I live in Suffolk.

Kona P2's on my singlespeed

Exotic / Carbon Cycles. Great performance, great value

Pipedream do a rigid fork, its about £50 and is the right length.

Got the exotic carbons on one of the bikes and just about to fit [url= http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FOOOSCF4709/on_one_monocoque_straight_steerer_carbon_fork ]these[/url] to the other one.

pipedream rigids on a 456 here. tis good fun.

At least some of the Pro ones are the same as the Exotic ones (and also the Nukeproof ones, and the White Bros ones). Just that some have more expensive stickers than others.

I've got a set of Exotics, they're really pretty nice. Not the lightest but they don't look daft and backwards like the On Ones, and they've proved tough. They do flex a fair bit especially under braking, but that's actually fine, it helps with comfort and doesn't cause any problems.

I really like rigid mtbing, wouldn't have it as my only bike but it makes for a huge difference when you ride it. Admittedly I cheat and use a 2.5 tyre for a bit of bounce, but it goes most places I'd put a hardtail. Obviously singlespeed is for mongs though 😉

exotics are great bit of kit..

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Exotics. Much better finished than the On-Ones. They ride better also.

But I prefer a nice steel fork though. The Singular Swift one is nice, rides lovely, as does the Niner steel one, but both of these are 29er forks.

Dont be tempted by On-Ones steel fork though. Cheap, oh yes, but its harsher than the harshest harsh thing. Ever. Ever.
In fact, remember that wobbly bridge in Londondon...well they stiffened that up by lashing On-One steel forks to it. And they only needed one set, & a zip tie.

Sorry, it's for 26inch wheels

The on one steels are also heavier than any known suspension forks.

I'm currently using the on-one steel forks, had them kicking about from a beater build. They don't seem that bad but I am considering some exoctics to save a bit of weight and see if the on-ones are really as terrible as folk say.

Enjoying rigid riding, not as bad as you think once you adjust. And once less thing that needs cleaned or fettled on the bike!

Have been riding the steel forks that came with my Singular Swift for a couple of months now, there have been moments in rides when a bit of suss would have been nice, but not a whole ride when I got home and regretted the decision. Even in the frost (hardpack) ride of last week rigid was fine.

I like that there is instant feedback (no rebound delay), no brake dive, no maintenance, no sag when I stand up to put some power down, and the weight saving that makes the front more direct and maneuverable

Perhaps I'll put some suss on for the "summer", but I'm happy so far.

Big wheels and big soft tyres help. You learn to be a bit lighter on the bars and choose your line with a little more care - and you can do that because the steering is more direct.

SS and rigid is a great combo.

Where it doesn't work so well would be on trails with braking bumps, or several steps or hits in a row where the next arrives before the previous is dealt with.

I'm old enough to have started on rigids, went back last year to carbon white bros rock solids, they're very light and very strong, they do flex very slightly but only when you're really pushing the bike, most of the time it's a great ride, you find smoother and less rooty lines so you actually work harder and read the trail more, wack a wider tyre up front with lots of grip and not too much air and you'll be how surprised how smooth the ride is, I'm running a carbon flat bar too, which takes out some buzz.

Pace Carbon, check the classifieds.

Another vote for Exotic Carbons.

I've been using them for 2 years now on my SS, they've taken a fair few knocks and spills and are still going strong.

* Similar Suffolk-based disclaimer...

I have been using the on one carbon (original 26 style) since they became available.

They've been great. Might try some Exotics at some point as they are supposesd to ride better and mine are 6 years old 😕

@rewski what bar? I'm looking for a wide (750mm or more) carbon bar with a tad of flex in it, the ones I have are super rigid

Running Kona Project 2 on the Felt. Wanted the Pro carbon ones originally but by the time I had got around to ordering them, they had been discontinued. My LBS managed to locate a NOS pair of P2s and I have to say, I love the ride...

No more clunky, heavy front end. Just nice, direct and simple...

Not sure if I will bother with suspension again...

Surely there cant be too many requirements for a rigid fork - Iv thought of a few.....

Connect to wheel
Connect to bike
connect to brake
support rider weight + a bit
minimise weight

+1 for the Exotics, with the same disclaimer as johnnystorm and verses (hi guys!).

I do get a little bit of judder and fore-aft flex under heavy braking (85kg rider, 180mm XT brakes), but nothing worth worrying about.

@mattjg - a pro XCR, short 580 and very rigid, old school XC stylee. You looked at Easton Carbon Havoc, they go up to 750 I think, too wide for me, I've got the Havens and they're a bit too wide for me.

Exotics.
Had them for at least 4 years now. There's a little flex and give, but that's good.

The first few rides will be a shock, but then you'll adapt, pick better lines, unweight more, etc. I've got a 2.2 tyre on the front at 25psi-soft enough to smooth out the clatter.

No dive is a great thing as is really hauling on the bars and having something solid to work against.

Have fun!

I'm looking to get the pro carbon forks for a xc race build.

Salsa are reputed to make some nice STEEL rigids. Can't be doing with the carbon myself, had them and the difference to steel is 'shudder', haven't noticed that with my retro P2's so I'm sticking with steel.

^^ Wot he said....I've just switched from Carbon exotics to Salsa Cromoto's...Flex free and lurvely feel about them....Spiffing 😀

I had some carbons on my 26, I'd best describe their feel as 'twangy'.

The steels on my 29 are perhaps a bit more subtle.

But it's not a like-for-like comparison, there are many other variables between the 2 bikes.

Riding rigid is a different feel to a sus fork. Someone thinking rigid will be like a stiff short travel sus fork will be disappointed.

Yep... I got fed up with the weight and the constant oil leak from my Rebas and sold them. Fitted some eXotics in carbon and don't regret it at all; you only miss suspension on big hits like steps and kerbs and on a proper mountain day out like the High Street circuit the lighter weight of the bike makes a huge difference to what I've got left in the tank by the end, compared with other riders on FS bikes. The carbon forks are considerably more comfortable than the rigid steel forks we used when mountain bikes were first invented.

My Rebas have at least four settings.

My Swift has one - positive air. It goes in the tyre. Then go ride.

I bought some exotics for my 26" Scandal SS and enjoyed them. Nice and direct which I think works well with single speed due to increased out of the saddle pulling on the bars type riding.

I dont use them now(there on my sons bike)as I bought some Fox forks with a lock out that properley locks out and gives that same direct feeling.

Ian

Anybody tried running a 96er, as the AtC height for rigid suspension corrected forks seem to allow for it?

I'm after a set of carbon rigids to run on the front of my hummer for the winter and remove the Talas but i run a 15mm axle/hub, am i right in thinking only the [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=64390 ]X-Lite Carbon Fork as below[/url] is the only one available with a 15mm dropout?, if not what other's are available?.

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i might get some of those exotics.

but if i dont like it would people by a second hand carbon fork?

to be honest i`m not totally sold on a new one!

The SwedishChef : I had a 445mm pace fork on the front of my soulcraft wi a 29 wheel/tyre (2.55 wtb wierwolf), it slackenedd the steering angle by 2 degrees from a singletrack twitchy 71dg to a sit back and hold on 69dg, it rolled over pretty much anything in it's path and with such a large volume tyre on the front it provided silly amounts of grip.
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Thanks for all the replies, it's encouraging to read when people start using rigid forks they don't regret it. My SS isn't my main mountain bike, so I won't be riding it all the time.

Going rigid is to enable me to have a different sort of biking experience that I currently have, hopefully it will improve my riding by having to pick better lines and think more about what I need to do as a rider rather than letting the suspension do all the work.

So when I muster up the cash looks like the Exoctics are the way to go.

I rate the Salsa Cromoto's.

I have some on my 26" Unit

Charlie, of the bikemonger fame, also rates them very highly. Not as light as some Exotic, but not heavy and a really nice ride.

I'm trying to source them in 29er guise for my 29er Unit, but not having much luck. 🙁

steel forks on an ali frame sounds wrong?

If I had the spare cash I'd get these, carbon steerer Syncros FLs now owned by Scott, I'll let you guess what FL stands for 😉

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Anybody tried running a 96er

I've got Pace RC31's 440mm on my off road commuter and put a 29" wheel on the front over the summer. It was pretty good and the increase in comfort was noticeable over downland as hard as concrete, but it wasn't as manoeuvrable. I've gone back to a 26 over the winter as I have a dynamo hub in that wheel. If I were buying a rigid bike again I'd certainly be looking at 29" wheels.

Thanks guys, interesting. Might play around with the idea of a rigid 96er.

If the forks were the same AtC then the difference is the roughly 1.5cm radius change in the front wheel. Does that really equate to 2 degrees diff in head angle?

@Swedish Chef - I've just put a 29in front wheel on my 26 Inbred SS. Only ridden it once so far but I like it, apart from the extra rotational mass, which is noticeable uphill with the heavy wheel/tyre combo I have.

The bigger front wheel makes a huge difference on the downs - it's almost like having a little bit of suspension.

I dropped the stem about 3cm to compensate for the higher front end. It felt odd for about the first 100 yards but I quickly got used to it after that. Haven't tested handling on tight switchbacks yet. Might do that tonight.

@MattjG - Exotic do a wide carbon bar. However, it is cheap and light, which, according to the Law of Keith, means it will snap when you haul on it, showering you in deadly carbon shards which will migrate to all your vital organs and turn you to rancid, stinking mush from the inside out.

Depends how fat a tyre you have on the front, big volume tyre = bigger difference in head angle.

Somafunk - You coudl get 15mm to 9mm hub adaptors? I ran some for a while and they were fine.

As for rigid forks I use Pace RC31s in 445mm style on my 69er. originally had a 26" wheel up front, tried a 29" and the difference was good, so kept it like that...
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