[Closed] Ragley Blue pig likley to suit my riding?

So you bought it before wondering whether it was any use to you? 😉

it wont suit your riding at all

i thought ragleys were all about shunning the nasty evil trail centres

designed for calderdale newskool innit

What's Calderdale new skool??? And what was Calderdale old skool?? I was unaware we had a skool in Calderdale???

It doesn't have to be in Calderdale [i]per se[/i]. That's just where the skool originated. Of course, if you weren't there, you wouldn't understand. By "there", I don't just mean in Calderdale, but in the moment, when the skool became what it is today. So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Calderdale and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark — that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.

[i][b]That[/b] [/i]is what the Blue Pig is about.

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I've been going up hills in Calderdale for 20 years and i have to admit i've always preferred to look West at the top but i musn't have the right kind of eyes.......... or perhaps i couldn't see for my Orange glasses if you get my drift???

Pre-ordered on chain reaction so actually havnt paid yet....
Starting to slowly move away from the trail centres, they were a good place to start and get used to riding. hmmm.....now I am even more confused as what to get!

I am sure it will be fine. Nobody on here can give a fair comment on how it will ride, as no-one bar brant has actually ridden one.

but Brant builds bikes that most people get on with* so its a safe bet.

* mind you I owned an Armadillo and I didn't like it.

We were somewhere outside of Hebden Bridge, on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold...

Hebden Bridge actually exists? I heard its a halfway house between the factories of Halifax and the interbreeding of Todmorden. A sort of big-butch Lesbionia.

We are all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled that 60's. That was the fatal flaw in Brant's trip. He crashed around Todmorden selling "bikes for lekkin' aboot ont moors" without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him seriously... All those pathetically eager Singletrackworlders who thought they could buy Skill and Gnarl for £299 a pop with yellow aero wheels. But their loss and failure is ours too. What Brant took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Calderdale New Skool: the desperate assumption that somebody... or at least some force - is tending the light at the end of the tunnel.

Calderdale Freeride is riding down steps, not sure about New Skool. 😛

I think the whole thing about whether a bike 'suits your type of riding' is a little irrelevant. (No offence!)

Assuming it's not a single speed jump bike, a road bike, a tricycle or an 8 inch travel monster (which the Blue Pig isn't!) it'll probably be totally fine for what you need it for.

It's a long travel steel hardtail isn't it? I've ridden similar at trail centres, natural rocky Peaks trails and boggy bridleways.

Stop worrying, build your bike and have fun 😉

Big dummy sir it is you and your ilk who have brought the skool to Calderdale and kept it there and one day i shall venture Brantwards for more enlightenment but i shall say this first, my skill and gnarl were earned in the 70's upon a blue Royal Enfield with cow horn bars, frame angles didn't matter, suspension was a mere twinkle, and the moorland bomb holes we jumped out of have long since been reclaimed for agriculture, i can truly say 'i remember this before it was fields'. So i shall venture to Tod one day but it will not be to buy into a lifestyle, only to enhance it and move closer to the light.......

Jesus, Calderdalians, we all think we're Ted Hughes!!!

[i]Calderdale Freeride is riding down steps[/i]

the steps of death?

Ah, the steps of death. They make you ride like the village drunkard in some early Irish novel. Total loss of all basic motor skills. Blurred vision, no balance, numb tongue. The mind recoils in horror, unable to communicate with the spinal column. Which is interesting because you can actually watch yourself riding in this terrible way, but you can't control it...

elliptic, we rock. 😉

The steps of death?? Where are they?? Another Calderdale feature no one told me about!! Karma i suppose, i've a few secret spots!!!

[i]"no-one bar brant has actually ridden one."[/i]

I've been riding one for a couple of weeks. Review will appear in next issue of Singletrack (alongside Lynskey Ridgeline LT, Whyte 19 Ti and a Van Nicholas MamTor) 🙂

Have you ridden the mmBop as well Ben? and care to give a teaser summary?

Looking at that list of frames Ben, surely it's the Ti frame that you're riding/reviewing alongside them, not the Blue Pig?

also how come you aren't reviewing the Ti456 alongside those other frames? especially considering the Mamtor is considered to be Van Nicolas take on that frame.

He dragged his rear brake down the steps of doom- how did he get away with doing that?

welcome to the calderdale new skool where brant's the headmaster?

Mamtor? It sounds scary but if this is the Mam Tor in the Peaks its more of a walkers paradise? 😕

But the Ti456 already got 10/10 from Guy Kesteven, so the Ragley Ti is going to have to get 11/10.....

Don't worry, whatever frame the OP chooses he'll still get passed on a gnarly downhill by some old bloke on a knackered raleigh activator with his helmet pushed back at a jaunty angle and the kind of grin on his face that comes from spending more time riding than worrying about what frame to buy 😆

The OP must be so glad he asked. Sorry, I am aware that the degeneration of this thread may have had something to do with me. 😳 😉

BigDummy - So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Calderdale and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark — that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.

this is funny and geographically frightengly true as from the pike you can see Blackpool Tower if you look west(ish)

I'm off to get a quart of tequila... fancy a drink BigDummy...? 😉

Calderdale Freeride is riding down steps

Too bad the ideal name was already taken. 😉

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I've heard rumours you can see the top of snowdon too, but i've yet to see it, or blackpool tower. But then again its often cloudy at the pike

My dad says he's seen the tower from the pike, but he's not all there in the head, he was probably looking at Emley Moor TV Transmitter which I have seen. Snowdon is a new one one me, I'd be very surprised is you could.

Well i looked for the pike from the top of snowdon and couldnt see it, even with binocular assistance so i'm firmly in the 'cobblers' camp on that one.

Ooops! Been getting my Ragleys mixed up! 🙂

Yep, it's the Ragley Ti that I've been riding for issue 51 not the Blue Pig.

I'd like a frame named Stair Lift

So why not the Ti456 Ben? would be an interesting and unique article especially considering one is supposed to be an evolution of the other.

Doesn't bode well for the review if you can't even remember which frame it is, after all the colour schemes are kinda "distinctive" 🙄

one is supposed to be an evolution of the other.

Kind (as I did them both) of but not really (because I started from scratch with input from others).

Doesn't bode well for the review if you can't even remember which frame it is, after all the colour schemes are kinda "distinctive

But Ragley Ti and Blue Pig (and mmmbop) have same geometry.

I wonder how the different colours affect the ride?

I wonder how the different colours affect the ride?

I wonder how the different colours affect the ride?

green is the fastest, do you not know anything?? 🙄 🙄

🙄 doh! everyone knows red is the fastest

But Ragley Ti and Blue Pig (and mmmbop) have same geometry.

So no point buying the expensive Ti version then......

There's a difference between "not much point" and "no point".

Bigdummy - best laugh I've had for ages.

Uncle John always reckoned red was faster.

[i]There's a difference between "not much point" and "no point". [/i]

It's £1040 according to Chain Reaction 😉

ChrisS - you've never shown me your Raliegh Activator - you normally bring the nicer bikes out when I come round!

Pink is faster [FACT] as shown by 1.5% respondees to an online survey. Ride a pink back through certain areas and you'll ride as fast as you can to avoid brick/air rifles/guns in Manchester

There's a difference between "not much point" and "no point".

but it's only a very slight difference 😛

@vdubber67 - you come round?

Occasionally 🙂

So in essence your paying £1,000- £1,500 for ti material when joe public cant even notice the 'spring' difference between two types of metals.....The Blue Pig seems like a bargain compared then (thumbs up)

I rode the Blue Pig down "The Blue Pig" if that's any help. I rode it down Pecket Well B as well.

You'll be fine. Just remember not to hang too far off the back, and make sure you send it.....preferably to Jesus.

it'll go like a bike. don't worry about it. reasonable price, and the frame material is an alloy of magnesium, silicon, and marketing.

if you'd had ordered a DH frame for xc, or a carbon road frame for freeridin' on, then you'd have been in trouble.

So in essence your paying £1,000- £1,500 for ti material when joe public cant even notice the 'spring' difference between two types of metals.....The Blue Pig seems like a bargain compared then (thumbs up)

There are loads of reasons to buy the Ti one:
* A Ti frame should last longer;
* It looks ace; I love the finish on the Ti frame;
* It's £3 a day extra, if you keep it for three years;
* If you sell your bikes on after five minutes, the Ti one should keep its value better;
* The Ti is lighter than the Blue Pig, and should be springier than the Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Bop;
* It's Ti!

I'd get the Blue Pig, if I wasn't a big gayer, because I'm cheap/tight, but I can see why someone would get the Ti version.

* A Ti frame should last longer;

* If you sell your bikes on after five minutes, the Ti one should keep its value better;

I'm still gobsmacked from sunday aft. Going up Pecket Well was two quad bikes, a trails bike and........a very very old Scrambler bike (not one of those repos). The lad was wearing those Wallace and Gromit helmets and dodgy looking road tyres- cant beleive he made it!

LOL at BD, a Dr of Journalism for sure.

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A Ti frame should last longer

Too many variables IMO.

Personally I'd prefer to spend abit more, say 500-600 for something abit lighter than a lump of cro-mo but not the ti price. I bet there are frames out there made of Columbus/853/Ox etc that would be a perfectly good proposition rather than the silly ti-price now.

I went into a watch shop recently and the salesman told me the watch had titanium on it. Whoopy-do. Its more plentiful than steel isnt it?!