I am ridiculously confused at the moment.
Just spent ages surfing rockshoxs site, and others (as well as a few quick glances to see how Murrays doing..) and still dont have a clue.
What is the difference between the Pike 454, 426, and 409?
What is the difference between the Revelation 426 and 409?
What is the difference between the Reba SL, Race, and Team?
And which is the better fork for a do it all kind of bike? (eg: want a decent amount of travel, but not too heavy)
Also, which do you prefer? Had any problems with any?
[url= http://www.sram.com/en/rockshox/ ]rock shox site[/url]Try the sram web site mate all the info you need!! [url= http://www.sram.com/en/rockshox/url ] (no way will that link work!!! the 454 are the air versions with u turn I have a set and they are fab a bit heavy but only 50 gramms over a set of float 32's with 140 mm. I think they are stopping doing the 454's in favour of the revs now though??
instead of "surfing" try actually reading the info.. the answer to everything you've asked is on the RS website plain to see.
oh well I gave it a go!!! 🙄
Rebas are really an XC fork, Pikes are now coil only, and the new Revs have more or less replaced the Pike air forks, plus they have more travel, 150mm against 145. Revolutions are probably the best all-rounder, weight and travel wise. Without spending ages on Rockshox site researching the models, I'm not sure what the differences are, probably rebound and u-turn variations.
I have a Pike 426 Coil U-turn. The U-trun allows the travel to be adjusted from 95-140mm very easily. It has a control to alter the compression damping to allow it to be effectively locked out. It has a thing I don't understand which does something else. I turn it occasionally to try and understand what difference it makes. Here is a picture of my fork, attached to the front (i.e correct) my Pace RC305 XCAM.
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It is very stiff, very plush and rather heavy. If I had had the wonga for a 140mm air-sprung Revelation with a thru-axle and a U-turn I'd have had one. But the Pike is working rather nicely.
I hope that helps slightly. 🙂
And which is the better fork for a do it all kind of bike? (eg: want a decent amount of travel, but not too heavy)
Revelation 426.
Higher the number better the spec. IIRC not much in it apart from weight.
Pikes are quite hardcore, revs are allrounders and rebas XC although people ride xc on pikes and all mountain on rebas.
Having looked at [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=33582 ]these[/url], I can see very little difference in function or in externals between these and my 426 20mm Pikes. The difference is entirely in the guts of it, air rather than coil sprung. So it comes down to whether I ahve a fanatical preference for coil shocks (I don't) or whether I had an extra £100 I felt like blowing to lose 0.5kg in weight (I didn't). Pike it was. 🙂
I suspect BD, that the thing you're turning that you only slightly understand maybe the floodgate?
It adjusts how much force it takes to make the fork start working when it's locked out (or partially locked out) you can set the fork to move at small bumps (less floodgate) or only activate when you hit the floor after a 3 ft drop off. (as with a bike like that, you are clearly sick to the power of rad)
I set mine about half way round, and ignored it from that moment on...
Thanks Nick, I suspect you may be right. Halfway round it shall go, and there it shall stay.
I'm not terribly rad by inclination, but it's amazing how much radder one feels peeping out from behind that front end. 😀
Pikes are only available in coil version in the UK, unless some one has some older stock. The 409 has a steel steerer tube and internal floodgate control, the 429 gains external flood gate control whilst the 454 has both external flood gate and an aluminium steerer.
Are steel steerers really much cheaper than alu ones? Or is it just a way of giving different options at different price points and doesn't really reflect the manufacturing costs?
I have the 2009 Revelation 409 140mm travel on my Meta. I believe that the difference between the 429 and 409 was the 429 had an external wastegate and maybe slightly lighter. Great fork by the way. For 2010 they get blackbox damping over the existing motion control system and have 150mm travel out of the box.
454's have an alloy steerer, & mine have a remote poplock lever also. Superb forks. I'd always go with coil forks as they are smoother. In the real world the weight penalty is hardly noticeable unless your a 9st XC racer.
8.5st here.
Pikes sound good, but so do the revs. Think the revs might win.