[Closed] Pass the tissues, would you?

Needs a seat.

That needs a coat of hammerite

Is that the answer to 'what would goldfinger ride?' 😉

You masterbate over a gold bike with bendy seatstays? How odd.

Little bit ostentatious, that, yeesh.

Can you put it in the right forum, this one is mountain bike, there is a whole other deviant one over at grit.cx

Going into the woods?

Pass me the Kale smoothie more like, will look totes dench with a beard, snood, flannel shirt combo, skin walls splart 😉

not sure you'd even get a tissue between the stays and the tyre

I'm oot

No clearance for big rubber. I'm out.

You masterbate over a gold bike with bendy seatstays? How odd.

It's very nice.

Wow, gopping.

Now then, now then, how's about that then.

Horrible. And no mud clearance.

*Likes*

But then you knew I would din't you.

Sorry to be a party pooper, but if I was to buy a frame like this I'd expect that the brazing was done level- it looks to be that the seatstays are mismatched. I'm probably wrong- surely no framebuilder would mess up that badly.

That's a complete bargain at £2,275.19 for the standard frame.

Well its prettier than that spesh diverge at least 😉

rear tub is glued on the wrong way round

rear tub is glued on the wrong way round

Yeah, that put me off my stroke. Gimme a few minutes and i'll try again.

Needs suspension fore and aft, bigger tyres, a dropper post and thats just to start with.

Interesting....

I often run my rear tyres with the wider edge of the knobbles facing "forward" ie to get better drive against soft ground you want the flat edge first. Seems sensible?

Stays, maybe this allows larger tube diameters if they're not symmetrical?
Asymmetry is an overlooked design tool.

Having said all that, it's not my cup of trees in the slightest!

Not for me, I do like the battery mount solution for Di2 that they've come up however.

An acquired taste I suspect.

It would be dull if we all liked the same thing.

*logs on to image of Donhou Signature. Warms hands on thighs....*

That is gopping with a capital GUH.

Anything Speedvagen makes is absolutely lovely.

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(Apart from the dark green one in the link)

How terribly "New Money".

Nope. Don't like that one either.

Over priced generic tosh for the uber cool people, on that note "I'm out"

First bike in this thread is the colour of my nan's Yaris.

I like it, but was expecting a pic of Rachel Atherton!

Seat stay waaay too bendy, looks like the rear tyre needs to be flat before you can drop the back wheel out.

Horrid looking thing

Over priced generic tosh for the uber cool people, on that note "I'm out"

that would be Ritte, lovely paint jobs that add £1200 value to a £400 open-mould frame

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from
http://nyvelocity.com/node/6909

NYVC: Sounds like an ideal background for a bike designer.

I finally sought a more practical career path and went into advertising I learned not only how to design and market a product but also how to find voids in a marketplace.

At least they're honest...

They do seem to do a very pretty job of it...

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Not open mould according to this response from the designer...

Spencer Canon here. Designer of the Ace. Rumors are a bit like whac-a-mole, and the open mold assumption is something that began many many years ago on a few forums and since maintained by a vocal few. Fact is, no Ritte frames are open mold. The closest we came was in the very beginning, 6 years ago, with the original Bosberg. Technically even that wasn't "open," as we bought the molds after they'd already been used to produce some frames for Pedal Force (unbeknownst to us)... those good intentions but bad luck on our part has led to radically disproportionate amount of vitriol regarding the source of all our frames since. Now, there's nothing at all unique about buying a previous company's molds (or in this case, a new factory's proof of quality frame design), but nine out of ten bike brands in our position simply just lie about it. We chose to be honest... a decision that I stand behind, but a decision that certainly lacked business savvy. Well, at least I can sleep at night.

Since the original Bosberg, the Vlaanderen, Ace and all our other frames are designed by and unique to us (including the customs we made here in California and the other quality steel and alloy frames we make in Taiwan).

As for the Ace, it's been in development for several years now. I began the design by first carving the frame out of clay. We're very proud of the Ace and I'm sure any of you who get a chance to see and ride it in person, we'll see why we feel that way.

Lovely paint job?

Sadly my google-fu on a smart phone means I have failed to post a link to the downtube of the Donhou Signature Steel....

Not open mould according to this response from the designer...

I'll try find the links but on another forum they pretty much admitted to using open mould frames and justified it as keeping the cost down

mid post edit

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=124444&page=2

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12957181&p=18721426

Hey everybody,
I'm Spencer from Ritte Cycles. Saw this conversation unfolding and thought I'd clear up the confusion. I believe there is too much smoke and mirrors in the carbon frame world, with most manufactures treating the origins of their bikes like shameful family secrets. Fact is almost everyone of you, no matter how proud you are of your BH or Colnago or Cervelo, are riding a frame made in one of a few Chinese factories. But that doesn't make them bad bikes, it actually makes them great bikes. China knows how to do carbon.

Pedal Force is a brand that buys large quantities of a factory's bare frames. Other brands have been similarly close to Pedal Force as well, a few years ago it was a Fondriest, though most people don't call Fondriests "generics." Fact is, the Bosberg is not a CG1 (just look at the chainstays), though they do share the same designer.

Our goal with Ritte is to supply racers and serious roadies the best possible bikes for a price that's just high enough that we can stay in business. One way we accomplished this was by partnering with a Taiwanese company that specializes in designing carbon frames. They have worked with some of the most coveted brands on the market, and we were lucky enough to work with them to develop the Bosberg. [b]The design company holds the rights to the design and own the molds, and we don't have to pay for them, which means our customers don't have to pay for them. Of course, since we don't have exclusive rights, companies like PF can purchase frames made from the same mold.[/b] So maybe this year's Bosberg will indeed be next year's PF. It's either that, or the Bosberg ends up costing $3,200 instead of less than $1800.

Possibly an early response but they admitted in your link to using someone else's mould, they just argued semantics about what "open mould" meant (given Pedal Force sell cheap chinese carbon frames in the US and Ritte used the same mould but added $1K to the asking price).

Looks like its changed for their newer stuff, though.

Anyway I see Start Cycles seem to have started carrying Ritte so I'm waiting til they get reduced by 70% like everything else they sell... 🙂

I kinda love and hate Ritte. Love them in a design way, but kinda hate them for all their marketing savvy. Now thats not to say major Brands don't or wouldn't do the same thing, possibly better, but they do seem to ride towards form rather than function.
Ok the one there, ^^ the Ace, is just about on par with something I'd be interested in but TBH the frame weighs far too much 😆 Even for a Rouleurs bike it just teeters on the lighter end of the scale, but put anything battery operated on it and you'll need someone elses lungs to power it up a hill.

If it was my money, choice between the Ritte Ace and something else, I'd go here - Beacon Bikes in Lancashire and jump up and down on a BF100

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If it was my money, choice between the Ritte Ace and something else, I'd go here - Beacon Bikes in Lancashire and jump up and down on a BF100

Nice that, and fairly well priced too. If it was my money though, and as much as I appreciate pleasing aesthetics, I'd just go buy an off the peg Giant/Scott/Trek/Cannondale race bike. But then I am a bit boring 🙂

All this stuff about open mold. The mold defines the outside shape but the layup, grade of carbon etc can still vary. So if you're buying a 73 parallel road frame and the fit is ok I'd care more about the ride feel than the look. At 50k or more for molds that can be largely styling exercises I think open mold can work out well if brands are open about what they did after they chose the shape, if anything.

You can get a similar set up much closer to home especially if you live in the North.
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