[Closed] Pannier nightmare 🙁

all the panniers I have have rigid backs.

Yes, many have rigid sides.

Ages ago i got some ortliebs and a rack. Wasn't amused to find my feet caught the panniers no matter how i positioned them.

stuart that was also an issue!!

I struggle with foot clearance on my panniers. Need to tip the rack back quite a lot to get anything like close to clearing my feet.

Tipping the rack back didn't give me enough clearance. I know size 11s aren't small, but they aren't uncommonly large either. The clips started to struggle with the tilt too. Anyone got any ideas? No use to me as i don't have a frame with rack mounts any more but may help others.

When using panniers, always check that they fit when loaded,you really need a long wheel base bike for this, any commuter or tourer with braze-on's should be ok. Sounds like you are using a seatpost rack? Tubus, Nitto or Old Man Mountain racks are the way to go, bolted to the frame.

For rigid panniers, have a look at [url= http://www.bikebins.com/ ]Bikebins[/url] saying that, have used paniers from Wiggle (DHB) Ortlieb and Vaude, and all have worked fine, but Ortlieb and Vaude were better quality, and last much longer

using a proper rack not seatpost mounted 🙁

Likewise, MTBs generally have fairly short chainstays and i didn't really appreciate this when i bought the stuff.

just uploading some pics so you can check for any **** ups

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oh dear. that rack doesn't look like its up to much. what's going on with the bottom fixing point too? In fact what the hell is happening back there??

explain i am new to this shite

You need a proper rack. Try tubus with axle mount kit and seatclamp with rack mounts.

There are better shaped racks, something with two 'legs' each side the rear-most ones being shaped to help sheild the wheel from the pannier would help you out

I wouldn't want to put any more than my newspaper on that rack! Is it attached to the stays?

you need something like this:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-super-tourist-rear-rack/

and this

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/altura-night-vision-20-pannier/

yes with allen bolts - 2 holes - used the higher of the 2

was bought off here with panniers - grrrrr

Check the rack on this - not the multiple bars to stop the bag swinging into the wheel and the distance behind the axle the deck sits click on the image should give larger image

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That is perhaps the most minimalist rack I've seen!

Side supports on the rack help (these will be additional bars on the rack either sidde of the upright to create beams to stop the pannier going into the wheel), but most decent panniers should have a rigid back, also velcro attachments sound a bit crap.

Good, cheap panniers are hard to find. If you're going to use them a lot buy decent panniers as the more secure, and sophisticated fitting hardware make them more pleasurable to use. E.g. R&K Klik fix mean you just clip the pannier on and off and it doesn't go anywhere.

I may have an Altura Urban 20 for sale if you like.

Old Skool

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See loads of heel clearance as rack set further back, and as low as you can get it for load lugging.

It's not bolted on to the seat stays and i''m pretty sure that there are some bits missing from the top end too as it's not connected to the mounting points further up the seat stays.

If you look at a high quality rack like the [url= http://www.tubus.com/en/rear-carriers/cargo ]Tubus Cargo[/url] it has 3 different points to attatch the back of the pannier to the front & middle being used most, these can take a lot of weight, 40kg, and if correctly mounted pretty indestructible. Have used Tubus racks Cargo, Logo & Fly for the last 4 years / over 25000km with no issues

SBZ - it is bolted to the seat stays and also to the mount at the top

Agreed SbZ, the rack usually finishes at the front with a loop, then there is a bracket kit to connect it forward to the frame depending on where any braze-ons are. You an see it better on this one

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I'd say that Cruzheckler's rack is only good for a top bag

right which bastard sold it me!

Does it bolt on the inside of the seat stays?

yes

SBZ beat me too it

i think its this rack
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Raleigh-Alloy-Pannier-Rack-fits-24-26-700c-RRP-13-99-/200623288178?pt=UK_Sports_Leisure_Cycling_Bags_Panniers_SR&hash=item2eb6146f72

Don't give up on them yet, line the inside of the pannier with old estate agent sign or similar, and see if you can add a bit of metal strip to the top mounting to space it back, getting the deck more like level and have another go.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Alloy-pannier-rack-700-26-Silver-rear-/200622007009?pt=UK_Sports_Leisure_Cycling_Bags_Panniers_SR&hash=item2eb600e2e1

looks a better proposition

These are good. Silver lasts better than black as the pannier will wear the black paint off

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tortec-ultralite-rear-rack/

The Tortec are OK, but being Aluminium, put too much weight on it, it will bend, being as the OP was doing a shopping trip with it would suggest a Steel rack over Alu

I have bust several tortec racks

My superlite did a 500 mile tour with off-road bits ok, at times with bottles of beer and so on.

By cheep, buy twice.

Looks like you are going for buy cheep twice, buy three times.

Also, by cheeping out on the rack, you have knackered you panniers, costing ££ more? And the wheel? What is next, it breaks, fouls the wheel, and puts you under a bus??!?

Won't someone think of the children!

Don't fudge about, get the best rack money can buy, cry about the outlay, then forget about it knowing it isn't going to fudge up on you, and is probably going to see you out.

http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=product&under=range&product_id=75

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I second the DX Tourist from Topeak. Abused mine for years on my commuter with no issues. Really loaded it on a regular basis including brick and tile samples.