Here it is:
https://www.orbea.com/gb-en/ebikes/mountain/urrun/cat/urrun-10
Seems like what I'm after. What have I missed? What should I get instead?
A face tattoo and a senior citizens cruise.
Depends on your requirements i guess?
got to be honest, i think it is the kind of ebike i will get once the time comes. i still want to ride far and explore. so something like that would be ideal i reckon.
I already have the face tattoo @el_boufador , it's of the STW logo.
That's my thinking @ton , I reckon this would be good for getting around, and fun out on the hills - I have no more gnar ambitions.
Well we don't know what you're after ?
But I haven't sensed a lot of love for the Shimano motor, but if the Shimano motor is what you're after then crack on.
For reference, I have an Amflow full suss base model for not a lot more cash and it's possibly a better cost\benefit purchase. But that your decision.
But I haven't sensed a lot of love for the Shimano motor, but if the Shimano motor is what you're after then crack on.
Not sure about that. It’s much more reliable than it was, feels more natural than some and is definitely more efficient than most
Personally if going for an ebike I’d always want a bit of suspension at the back as the motor negates any in efficiency. Ironically if that £12k Orbea was £4K I’d be recommending that.
Also I’ve got an Orbea Rise. I think some of their engineering solutions are shockingly bad as is their quality control but that could just be on their more expensive/ complex bikes
Wife has the Urrun 30 and loves it, only uses it for gravel tracks and going in to town etc. We live half way up a reasonable hill and it means she will go for a ride without worrying about struggling to get home from the lowlands. It has replaced her e-town bike and gravel bike; it has done that really well for her, more comfortable on the rougher gravel stuff and goes places the town bike shouldn't. So the low spec forks and cues drive group set are perfectly adequate. Resale value isn't an issue as it's a keeper for her and we have a friendly local shop that supplied it if we do need support.
The higher spec ones seem disproportionate more expensive and hard to justify over proper E-mountain bikes.
Headset, spacers and stem assembly is a bit of a little but does look quite neet when the hoses and cables are the right length.
For myself though for what I would use an ebike for it's not the right choice.
The 2024 Urrun 10 is available online for much cheaper.
Cables through the headset and Shimano motor would rule it out for me personally
What should I get instead?
Not a hardtail and a bit more expensive but....
Thanks for replies.
im an e-bike virgin, are Shimano motors not good then? I thought I’d be pretty safe with them.
I hadn’t noticed the cables going through the headset. That’s annoying, but I think I could live with it.
A few people have said something like ‘not a lot for the price’, but there aren’t many suggestions of alternatives.
I definitely want a hardtail.- I even considered rigid as I plan to be doing some longish rides, but I’d like to be able to do a bit of off road exploring too. I’ve had a look at a few bikes, and this seemed to tick most of my boxes: decent spec (I was amazed at how many expensive bikes come with Cues), not too heavy, reasonable range, versatile.
Any alternatives to this bike then? I’d quite like flat bars, but a capable gravel would also work. £5000 max.
It was the only bike that wife could find that ticked the boxes: mid drive, hard tail, likes the look of, battery size not too small, but reasonable weight and available locally from one of the independent shops.
We fitted a dropper and changed the basics Shimano screen / bar remote for the one with Bluetooth but didn't bother with the extra display.
I know you said hardtail only but on an ebike full sus makes more sense imho.
Triton have these for similar money:
Bigger battery than the Urrun and scope to add a range extender that's bigger than the orbea one.
requiring a hardtail ebike for long distance exploring doesn't really add up
you are severely limiting your potential fun elsewhere, and when looking at that sort of price you might even pick up an e gravel bike and a full sus ebike for similar
i was finding orbea rise's for that sort of money when i was looking light/midweight...
or something like the ribble e grit at 14kg or less
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and have 2.5 grand from your max for something like one of the raymon's that pauls cycles have or the gt:
GT eForce Amp+ Electric Mountain Bike Forest Green
If you want to ride longer distances, with some assistance, and aren't too bothered about ripping down "proper" mtb trails then I reckon the Urrun would be perfect. It will pedal much better than the suspension bikes mentioned. We have had a few mid-powered Shimano ebikes... no problems with any of them. Our fully rigid commuter (E6000 motor) has covered thousands of miles without issue.
I think the Urrun looks good too. Needs a bit of a discount from full rrp though!
Having a motor kinda removes the usual negatives of full suspension, other than the maintenance. Most rear shocks will have a lock out or firm mode for climbing and riding on the flat.
The Urrun 10 is probably one of the better hardtail ebikes though, if you really don't want full suss.
As I said above, you can find the 2024 model for much less. I don't think much has changed spec wise on the new model.
99 Bikes and Blazing Bikes have them for £2999 in Large.
I will definitely not be 'ripping down proper mtb trails'. I might be meandering down a few.
I've just sent the bike at BikeInn for 3645.99, with a code that brings it to 3281.39 - VAT and duties included. I've used BikeInn many times successfully - though never for a complete bike.
Thanks for all the advice everyone (and keep it coming). All the full suss suggestions are all argued, but I still reckon I want a hardtail. As I said earlier I've never been 'gnar', and I'm getting less so. I prefer the savings in weight and complexity.
I have to ponder for up to a month when buying a pair of socks, so I doubt I'll be rushing into this.
Looks like the right tool for the job to me. For a winch a plummet MTB, no. For exploring and touring with mixed terrain but with no real limits on where you can go (VTT), spot on. If someone gave me one, I wouldn’t sell it. Shimano motor system is sorted these days as well, despite the very loud internet warriors still moaning about the early versions of their motors.
I’ve got a Uurun 30. Replaced my mtb and gravel bikes with it. Great for South Downs XC type trails and not terrible on trail centre stuff. Had no issues with the motor.
I put a wireless (Magura Vyron) dropper on it which negated the need to faff with the cable routing.
If it were me I'd be looking at a Bosch powred bike at the moment - it's a better motor than Shimano, more reliable, decent backup and quieter in use. There's apparently a new Shimano motor coming this year but that's not on anythiing, yet...
I'd look at the likes of the Mondraker Prime, Trek Powerfuly+ or Cube Reaction Hybrid - numerous options at various prices from those brands.
The first bikes I looked at were the Treks and the Cube Reaction and now I've been led right back to them. The Mondraker (I'd never even heard of Mondraker) looks good too. I'll have a look for some deals.
The Bosch motor would be good, but I'm still thinking about the Orbea. I think it's the weight, there's something very attractive about having a sub 20kg bike.
The Shimano EP801-RS motor is fine. In RS+ mode it 85nm, but the MOAR POWER race is only relevant if you're riding with other people with other motors. Plus all motors have their foibles.
From what I've read, Shimano are pretty good for free replacements just outside of the warranty period, and offer a sliding scale discount beyond that. There's a guy who services them out of warranty now too:
https://www.e-motorrepairs.co.uk/
After having zero problems with our Shimano powered e-bikes, I fancied a Bosch powered bike. Mainly because of Bosch's "legendary" reliability. You guessed it... A handful of rides in and it's now been back in the shop for almost 3 weeks (latest Bosch SX motor btw).
I think it's just part of ebike ownership. You might have a problem but it should get sorted out under warranty. Faulty stuff tends to fail in the early part of its intended lifespan ime. I thought/hoped the Bosch would be as reliable as our Shimano motors, but then have the reparability beyond its warranty period.