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2.25 Smorgasbord isn't much smaller than the 2.4 Chunky Monkey and both are great tyres, I've recently read a comment from Brant saying that the Chunky Monkey isn't solely for front use so I'll be sticking one on the back when the Smorgasbord wears out.
Measured my 26" 2.25 Smorgasbord Trail Extremes and they come in at a smidge over 2.2" @ 30psi. Measured using digital calipers. They fit my Genesis Core nicely and could probably have something even bigger on the back.
Sorry for the thread ressurection, but only just got round to trying these.
Soft front, regular compound on the back.
Just done a 30 miler over the Pennine Bridleway and I'm very impressed.
Great on the rear:
No traction issues, not a huge amount of drag, comfy as hell because of the high volume.
Front was a bit 'pingy' at first 'till I reduced the pressure, but fine thereafter.
Felt a little vague at first when leant over on loose, rocky stuff, but never let go. Might try dropping the pressure a bit more on the front tomorrow.
More like an Ignitor than an XR4 (my current 2 favourite fronts) - faster than I thought they'd be, and overall, I'm very happy.
Especially for less than £30.00 a pair. 🙂
Bigger side/intermediate lugs would flatten the profile slightly and perhaps make the front feel a bit more planted when leant over, but it's no big deal. The actual grip seems fine.
It's really nice to find a bargain.
Even better when they work this well.
Bigger side/intermediate lugs would flatten the profile slightly and perhaps make the front feel a bit more planted when leant over, but it's no big deal.
Try a Chunky Monkey?
Just ordered a pair of the Enduro ones for my Solaris. Currently using Beavers, but wanted something with a bit more volume, we'll see how they fair, cannot go wrong for the price.
Yeah get a Chunky Monkey too, I love it as a front tyre and I'm gonna get a single compound one for the rear of my AM bike.
Brant - Have you considered doing a "cut-spike" mud tyre in the same casings, perhaps a bit like the new Magic Mary from Schwalbe?
Do you think I'm made of money? 😀
I'll give the CM a go when this one's down to the canvas.
Just come across these
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Still loving mine. Brilliant in the dry and for armoured trail centres but they are lethal in the mud. Geax Daturas going on this weekend.
Running a chunky (single compound) up front and smorg out back and pretty pleased with them both so far, chunky grips well up front and smorg being the smaller tyre rolls good too.
Both are up and running tubeless, chunky was easier to set up this way but using a ghetto inflator and some muscle the smorg went up too, absolute bargain for a pair of tyres I reckon.
hora - MemberJust come across these
From experience washing up liquid works better
matt_outandabout - Member
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I was searching for a topic on these tyres rather than starting a new one. Its obviously a resurrect as the post before was 5months previous.
Wow! a 7 page thread on a tyre clearly designed by an ADHD sufferer?
Pentagon shaped knobs? Really? And what the hell are all the random "L" and "U" shaped sipes all about?
Wow! a 7 page thread on a tyre clearly designed by an ADHD sufferer?Pentagon shaped knobs? Really? And what the hell are all the random "L" and "U" shaped sipes all about?
Well that is one of the more interesting tyre reviews I've read.
I have a few questions if anyone can help me out regarding this as a rear tyre.
How does the rolling resistance of the smorgasbord compare to Hans Dampf and Chunky Monkey.
Do they have the same low pressure qualities as the CM which I can run 10 psi front and 15 psi rear.
How predictable is the grip and does it mind being leaned on.
Also I would like to know how these compare to 2.25 Ardents
I've got the smorg on the rear and chunky up front. The smorg is a fine rear tyre. Much lighter, better rolling than the chunky though not so grippy. It does slide out now and again but this always feels controlled to me. HTH.
Seem to be lasting pretty well too.
It does slide out now and again but this always feels controlled to me.
This. I like the tyre not because it's especially grippy, but because the grip (or lack of) is predictable - it lets you know in plenty of time when it's going to slide, and when it does let go, does it gradually and progressively, rather than you going from riding along happily to sitting on the ground wondering what just happened.
That's good to know about the grip, how does the rolling resistance compare to other tyres?
Got the CM and smorg combo on my bike recently both in dual compound flavour. Anyone else find the smorg a bit squirmy on the rear? Not sure if it was just a case of low pressure or just the softer side knobs but In the turns it felt like I could feel the tyre rolling laterally across the rim. More air added for next test, loving the CM on the front though.
I've been running my dual compound 2.4 Chunky Monkey / single compound Smorgasboard setup for a few rides now so for anyone interested, here's my concise review in comparison to my previous High Roller/Crossmark combo:
+ loads more grip/confidence on rocks and roots
+ ace in loamy conditions that are abundant around here at the moment
+ can feel the tall'ish carcass absorbing some of the hits whereas the old Crossmark had a reall tall carcass but instead of absorbing hits it either felt squirmy or like it was going to roll off the rim under hard cornering
+ silly cheap
- noticeably more draggy on trail centre stuff vs my old setup but for the benefits mentioned above, I might just leave them on as the ride of the bike is improved greatly
In summary, the best tyre combo I've used, maybe ever. I'm not a serial tyre swapper but theres little to fault with these.
Do they have the same low pressure qualities as the CM which I can run 10 psi front and 15 psi rear.
Is it just me who thinks those pressures are a little low?
Some tyres I could take them off the rim by hand with 10-15psi in.
Really pleased with mine (dual compound). First tyres I've managed to run tubeless wihtout going out to the garage to find them flat after a week without use. Really good and cheap to boot.
Maybe it's me but this thread seems like it's had a funny bump
EDIT: and 8 pages on a thread for tyres, really?
EDIT2: the cynic in me might even think there's a few container loads arrived oop north this weekend
the best tyre combo I've used, maybe ever.
I'd agree with that. Ran a F/R smorgasbord combo last year which was great but now switched to CM front/ Smorg rear. Dual compound on the CM and "Enduro" compound on the Smorg. Draggier up hill but on anything else it's superb. Giving me much more confidence on roots and rocks and the CM is great in the loam.
dangerousbeans - Member"Do they have the same low pressure qualities as the CM which I can run 10 psi front and 15 psi rear."
Is it just me who thinks those pressures are a little low?
not just you. too low by at least 15psi.
iolo - Member
...8 pages on a thread for tyres, really?
we're hoping to challenge the headset thread.
Do they have the same low pressure qualities as the CM which I can run 10 psi front and 15 psi rear.
Is it just me who thinks those pressures are a little low?Some tyres I could take them off the rim by hand with 10-15psi in.
The CM is the only tyre I've been able to run this low I have fairly wide rims.
Hans Dampfs I run 20 at the back 15 at the front. Even with HD 20psi at back when I land some drops and jumps or under high lateral loads the tyre squirms and spreads so much that rubs the frame on my El Guapo.
The HD does provide enough grip but it just doesn't feel right I would prefer something better. As I love the feel of the CM I was considering SB but I would be reluctant to go for it if it has worse rolling resistance.
not just you. too low by at least 15psi.
How would you know without knowing what rims, what I weigh or my riding style?
iolo - Member
Maybe it's me but this thread seems like it's had a funny bump
You are cynic if you look at my posting history you will see that I've been trying to work out what rear tyre to use.
fr0sty125 - MemberHow would you know without knowing what rims, what I weigh or my riding style?
a wild guess?
10psi *might* be fine, for a non-fat front tyre, on a bike that's ridden hard, if the rider weighs... what, 4 or 5 stone?
i wager 5pence that you've got a dodgy gauge.
iolo - Member
Maybe it's me but this thread seems like it's had a funny bump
EDIT: and 8 pages on a thread for tyres, really?
EDIT2: the cynic in me might even think there's a few container loads arrived oop north this weekend
Your determination that there are evil hands at work is seemingly never ending. If you want to make up conspiracy theories, there's plenty to go at with #mh370
Nobody at On-One, Planet X, or any of our contacts have "bumped" this thread, and your frequent speculation that we do is a source of much joy in my life.
Brant - leave the briefcase with the money in under my table in Mooch. I'll wear a red rose. Used notes only please.
Got the CM and smorg combo on my bike recently both in dual compound flavour. Anyone else find the smorg a bit squirmy on the rear?
I tried the same combo on 456ti, tubeless on Flows. Mixed results:
I destroyed the smorg on the first ride. 🙁
In hindsight, I must have been kidding myself that I could have got away with such a light tyre on a hardtail, when I'd previously had to resort to tubeless dual-ply as default choice on the back of the Five, for riding the same stuff.
The smorg did go up well tubeless but I felt the rim contact a few times riding up square edged steps etc before it gave up completely after about 5 minutes down rubble strewn descents. That would have been about 25-30psi.
I've gone back to dual ply minion tubeless on the back.
loving the CM on the front though.
Yes, agreed. It's massive. 2.4" fills the fork bridge on a 'zocchi 44 and I can only just squeeze a mucky-nutz in there.
I didn't like being run too soft though and burped on some descents at maybe 20 psi.
>25psi and it's been great.
any chance will see all on-one tyres in the fat bike colour options?
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I've been running the hard compound smorg front and rear on my 29er rigid SS. Found them to be fine, clear reasonably well in the mud through the winter, reasonably grippy and other have said, they're predicable when they let go.
As the trails have been getting a coat of dust these last few weeks I've having some good sideways fun 😀
My daughter will take a couple in pink if you wanna make some 16" versions too.
Just to add to this again, I run my S/S rigid with the Chunk/Smorg combo and it is brilliant. The chunk in particular soaks up the big bashes and the smorg is a really good foil to the chunk. I use the S/S on the Cannock cheekies, so mixed trail conditions. Absolutely cannot fault them.
I remember when I bought them the blurb said 'designed with UK trails in mind'.
Does exactly what it says in the blurb.