So - what to do....
Bought a c456 on basis of website, which says HT length is 105mm, 15 mm shorter than my current steed's HT length.
So I think I can accept 15mm of spacers even though that's quite a lot.
Having read in the last couple of days some worrying stuff about HT length I just measured my newly arived frame to find it's 90mm.
Horrified ! Or should I not be?
How can I get round this? Is it spacer city for 30mm above the headtube?? What does putting spacers in do to overall bike? Any issues?
I'm not cutting the steerer as i want the fork to be swappable.
On One - any comments on this ?
Big stack height on the headset and the same on the stem? Depends what you were using obviously, but there's potential to lose 15mm there if you spec well.
It does seem that the geometry tables are in a bit of a pickle. I'm sorry about that scoobmw... If it's wrong for you, please return it for a full refund (as is your statutory right anyhow!)
However - 30mm of spacers is nothing extraordinary.
I had better crack on with that headset. Will be talking to UK supplier in the morning.
In the past,I've used aero CF / tapered ones
[url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SpeedPark-Carbon-Fiber-Headset-Spacer-1-1-8-25mm-19g-/200602797999?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2eb4dbc7af#ht_825wt_843 ]A bit like this[/url]
Depends on you stem - but can look easier on the eye.
It's a carbon 456, it looks like it was carved out of soap then left in the bath. A stack of a dozen spacers will be the icing on the cake. (I do like mine, very much, I just try not to look at it)
Do Hope make a +10 headset the right size for the bottom tube? I know they do it for the 1.5 standard...
Every week I learn new stuff.
Not sure what a +10 headset is. Is that basically making the bottom assembly 10mm longer or something to save spacers at the top?
For the geometry experts out there - to use the bike as it is designed I'm tryig to work out what changes the geometry /angles etc an what doesn't.
Brant - thanks - I'll be going with it, have already got some if the supporting kit anyway, just want to fin the best way to configure the bike now. Esp since I've got new forks for the bike.
Advice from you guys re what will affect geometry etc would be handy though.
Now becoming clear I don't want zero stack headsets though I assume 🙂
What are zero stack about anyway? Is that because people just want really clean lines on their bikes or is it for functional reasons like keeping long head tubes short in overall A to C terms?
zero stack keeps the front of the bike low - useful with long travel forks which tend to raise the front end anyway - particularly on smaller frame sizes.
I'd go with 15mm under and 15mm over the stem to start with and then adjust to suit.
It's a carbon 456, it looks like it was carved out of soap then left in the bath. A stack of a dozen spacers will be the icing on the cake. (I do like mine, very much, I just try not to look at it)
Hahaha. Well so be it then. Hopefully with wheels and tyres it will be gripper than soap.
Need to get it built and out on one of Wed evening rides....
As above, I'd use a mixture of spacers above & below the stem, and then tinker with them to suit once you've ridden it a bit.
If you put all the spacers below the stem it'll feel like you're riding a shopper.
Thanks wwaswas.
zero stack keeps the front of the bike low - useful with long travel forks which tend to raise the front end anyway - particularly on smaller frame sizes.
I'd go with 15mm under and 15mm over the stem to start with and then adjust to suit.
I'll go with traditional cups methinks which will use up some of the steerer height.
Tricky balance between settin the bike up the way it's 'meant' to be and using up a long steerer
Cos sounds like if I go hope zero stack then I'll just end up needing more spacers.
So.
Went with (or planned to go with) ZS top and Trad bottom cup.
To cut a loooong story short - I got ZS cups top and bottom in the end from 18bikes - poss small picking error - and then me forgetting I'd asked for a trad bottom cup D, I just fitted it, and to be fair - they look good.
Problem - now need even more spacers.
Have a 188mm steerer, ZS Hope cups, X4 stem, and have fitted all 30mm of the spacers I got from 18bikes, and am now about 20mm short - nightmare.
So - is it ok from an 'engineering' point of view to have 50mm of spacers above a 90mm TT? Any handling issues?
Should I invest in a cup remover and buy a trad bottom cup? (My own fault for fitting the ZS - had got very mixed up re what I was expecting by the time it came to fitting).
Any good ideas?