Right. According to a quick very rough estimation on Google Earth, the journey is 77 miles, from the centre of Southampton, along the M3, onto the M25, then the M4/A4, the A3820, then the A40 to Maida Vale. Bearing in mind, the actual distance will be a few miles more, so 80+.
The National Speed limit is 70mph, and less in built-up areas. Factor in traffic, etc, and you're talking about a fair bit more time.
So, according to your claim of 55-65 mins, you'd have to be tooling up the motorway at speeds well in excess of 100 mph. I'm sure it's do-able, at 3 am, with clear roads, but I think you're talking out of your arse, quite frankly. What would your average speed be? Urban and motorway driving, with a bit of traffic, would be what, 50mph? Possibly a smidgen more? So, an 80 mile journey would be more like 1hr35 mins. I'd say you'd be lucky to reach the M4 in one hour. And the rest might take up to an hour more, even longer, depending on roadworks, traffic, etc.
You've come to this battle woefully unprepared. To think that you could possibly take on the mighty RudeBoy, is just absurd. Now behave yerself...
blimey all these excuses to not make a ride! and here's me trying to think how i'm gonna ride in plaster.. (admittedly it is about 25 mins from here)
why would I want to go on the M4?
Get in the car at juan's house. Then drive off. 5 minutes later you're on the M3 😉
45 minutes later (driving at 130kmh) you're into M3/M25 juncion. You don't have to get out of the M3... Then it's all straight line. And on a sunday morning there is no such thing as traffic.
See school boy error... You've use a computer rather than your brain... That is why you'll never be able to beat me.
I tell you what for the BB I'll show you live with ollie's car it's doable;)
I have managed Southampton to Canterbury in under 2 hours
Yes, but you're not right in the head. Besides, you're tooling along motorway for virtually the entire journey. Once you get into London, your average speed drops dramatically. It's taken us 30 mins to get through the Blackwall tunnel, ffs.
Southampton-Canterbury is roughly 135-140 miles. In order to achieve a time of two hours for that journey, you mustuv been going some way over the NSL. Granted, no-one actually travels at 70, but even so, that is still pushing it.
It was before I lost my licence I admit.
Get in the car at juan's house. Then drive off. 5 minutes later you're on the M345 minutes later (driving at 80mph) you're into M3/M25 juncion. You don't have to get out of the M3... Then it's all straight line. And on a sunday morning there is no such thing as traffic.
Ah! So, you're claiming 55 mins, to Maida Vale, from your house? By your own admission, it takes 45 mins to reach the M25 junction. Corect me if I'm wrong, but this is now a total of 50 mins. You're telling me, that you managed the next 25-30 miles in 5-15 minutes? In London? Care to explain how you managed that? Bearing in mind, you average speed would now have to be 120mph or so?
My case rests, M'Lud.
well that is a typical journey if I cruise at 150kmh then I make the 55 minutes. But I tell you what 😉 you get your driving license first and we speak about it later 😉
On the other hand if you don't want to ride because the new forest is more than 10 miles away from london and that scares you you dont need any excuses 😉
Plus M3/M25 to london is certainly not 25 miles 😉 eventually 25 kms...
I have managed Southampton to Canterbury in under 2 hours
I used to work in London Village. I had lodgings in Ilford, and I used to drive home very regualarly. To amuse myself I used to do calculations in my head as I drove: MPG, average speed, arrival time, that sort of thing. As such I always noted the exact time I started the journey.
I once did Ilford (From when I joined the dual carrigeway) to our house in Hockerton, which is a little village just north of Southwell, Nottinghamshire, in 1hr 59mins. In a 1 litre Fiat Panda.
IIRC that was something like 148 miles. giving an average speed of over 70mph (Which is a lot harder to achieve than it sounds) and the last 10 miles is through Newark, then on the A617.
I won't tell you how quick I can do the 50 miles to Gosport from Farnborough on the motorbike now, but it's all A-roads and I've beaten that average speed.
😀
Plus M3/M25 to london is certainly not 25 miles [;)] eventually 25 kms...
It's 25-30 miles to Maida Vale. Measure it, you numpty.
Accept defeat. You're just embarrassing yourself now. Quite why you made the incredibly foolish decision to take me on, is beyond me.
Silly, silly Juan...
I once did Ilford (From when I joined the dual carrigeway) to our house in Hockerton, which is a little village just north of Southwell, Nottinghamshire, in 1hr 59mins. In a 1 litre Fiat Panda.
Did the car ever work again? 😯
Rudeboy - If you reckon it is 80 miles and 20 of that is getting to and from the motorways then the maths is simple
20 miles at 40mph = 30 minutes
60 motorway miles at 120mpg = 30 minutes
Journey time = 1 hour 30 minutes *
*30 minutes added for fuel stop and to slow pass the unmarked black Skoda Octavia police car between Basingstoke and Southampton.
120MPG?
In the Merc?
Shureley shome mishtake?
It's 25-30 miles to Maida Vale
I am talking of real inner london as I said little france neighbourhood. and I have measured it...
but hey some here have work to do. I just found sad that you are so obstinate sometimes... You'll just be missing a great ride that's it
Did the car ever work again?
I bought it new and had it nearly 3 years, I did 55,000 miles in it and I thrashed the spuds off if from day one till the day I sold it. It averaged 42mpg and in all that time I spent a grand total £60 on repairs other than consumables and servicing. (Consumables - 4 tyres and 1 exhaust back box)
Super little car, I'd have another Fiat like a shot.
EDIT - Since then I've been to Italy a few times and I now know I was right to thrash it. That's what they're designed for. That's how the Italiand drive them...
🙂
I am talking of real inner london as I said little france neighbourhood. and I have measured it...
You're talking shite, is what you are, Juan, and you know it.
What you're claiming would require an average speed of over 80mph. C'est not possible.
Mate, I've lived here all me life, and traveled in more cars/buses/trains etc than you have. And I've been down to Southampton with Ollie, a few times now. It takes over 2 hours. The early start time means it's unfeasible for us to come.
I accept your surrender.
120 mpg - I would never suggest driving at 120 mph would I? 😉
I'm sure this thread was about a bike ride once.
Now its all about fuel ecomony.
How did that happen?
It was Juan, making preposterous claims about unfeasibly quick journeys into/from London.
He started it.
So rudeboy - are you and Ollie coming down the night before for food and beer at mine?
Guys - have you finished discussing your driving skills? Yep? OK, more information then for Sunday.
Meet time 10.30 am to start riding by 11.00 am, here:
Bring a picnic lunch but there will the opportunity to stop in the pub too.
Just to recap - around 20 miles including a circuit of the Big Bike Bash trail so feedback on that would be particularly welcome.
So ... who's in?
I suppose I had better come.
The weather is not likely to be as bad as forecast, yesterday was meant to rain and it didn't, today is just a bit overcast.
I shall be there...
CG - If the weather looks half reasonable we'll be there.
If it looks like chucking it down all day, then no. I'm not driving all that way to get soaked to the skin.
I'll text you on the day if we're not coming.
That said, like WCA says, all this rain we should be having right now isn't arriving and the forecast for Sunday has improved markedly.....
🙂
Who put the tag up about wanting to punch me?
Cos of course, that's brave... 😯
tootallpaul - Member
I shall be there...
How will we recognise you? 🙂
I have a question for the route planners. Just been out for a test ride and I can use my left hand controls - back brake and frfont shifting, and steer ok. Bit worried if there's any steep stuff, with limited front braking (and the extra weight of the trailer) I might be risking things a bit.. Think I'll be ok with what's planned?
(all dependent on mrs.dezb giving me permission, of course!!)
Dez - There are no serious descents that can't be managed but there are the occasional ruts and sandy spots. You will be fine
Excellent answer WCA! 😀
Erm. I'm tall, and have a red car, and a gold bike.
Not solid gold mind. That would be silly.
Dez, Dunno if you saw it, but I offered to pull the trailer if you like?
Up to you, but let me know beforehand so I don't bring the SS!!
Dez, Also, when I started the TransWales I'd just broken my left thumb. I could brake, but not shift to a bigger ring. I found that on the flat I can use my left shifter with my right hand.... Give it a go!
Yes, thanks PP - not sure how jr will feel about being towed by a stranger though... or were you offering to tow me ? 🙂
This morning found a gear at the back which I could leave it in and shift between mid and big ring. Was fine.
Did tell mrs.d that i'd been out and she said i was "stupid", so not yet broached the subject of sunday...
Yes, thanks PP - not sure how jr will feel about being towed by a stranger though...
That's what I was thinking, which is why I said it was up to you
🙂
or were you offering to tow me ?
Nope.
Did tell mrs.d that i'd been out and she said i was "stupid", so not yet broached the subject of sunday...
She's right. Women always are. Terrible, isn't it? 😉
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I see you've just about given up on the shift key!
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you got it1
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I'm in as long as it's not lashing down. Its been pretty grim in Poole most of the afternoon, but has brightened up now, so fingers crossed.
Dez - you might be safer with a pony, there'll be plenty to choose from 😀
Or how about the trail hound pulling you along in some contraption?
Everyone knows weather forecasts are notoriously inaccurate so just be optimistic rather than Southern Softies!!
hmm, just wondering how i'm actually going to get there, not being insured to drive an that.
Anyone going viia the A3(M)/M27 route (with space for a trailerbike)? thought not!
"Mrs.Dez-you know you dont approve? well can you be a love and drive us there?" likely?
DezB = I can fit ypou trailer and kid i. yxy me 0 782 77 666 4
cheers - will check for management approval first and let you know. thanx
just spotted typo in phone number 0 782 5 77 666 4
hmm, just wondering how i'm actually going to get there, not being insured to drive an that.
When I broke my wrist, I drove nearly every day with my right arm in plaster. For half of the time I was doing pizza delivery in my car as well....
The worst thing was trying to count the change out without the use of my right thumb, which was plastered right to the end. I wasn't cycling at the time but I couldn't ride a motorbike as I coudn't grip the handlebars or brake.
When I broke my right ankle I just bought an automatic Audi A8 so I had room to keep my right foot out the way and drove using my left foot. Easy to do when faced with 18 weeks in a cast. As long as you can maintain good control of the car there is no reason you won't be insured.
Bloke i work with lives in the forest (not literally) and reckons the car park we're meeting at also attracks another group of consenting adults looking for excitement. So look out for a group of strange people huddled around a car making excited noises, but be warned they might be singletrackers.
So ... does that mean some of you guys are going to make a weekend of it then 😉
I just hope my neighbour with the cucumber isn't there
Looks very windy and a bit wet this weekend.
This morning was wet and windy, its still windy, but the suns out now. Tomorrow looks similar, lashing down in the morning and sunny in the afternoon.
We're about 10 miles west, so i'll give you an early morning weather check in morning. I'm sure my little girl will wake me up early enough to catch you all before you leave.
Don't think it will be lashing down, more like possible scattered showers. Nothing today that would have soaked you.
I will look for your weather post tomorrow.
We could all wear our long macks to fit in with the doggers if its that wet.
Do doggers wear long macks? Or do they de-robe?
Looking forward to this. I can't possibly get another soaking can I after the wild, wet and windy conditions of the North Hampshire Downs today?
Enjoy your dogging guys!
At the moment, its looking like we'll see you there... just whether the child decides to be fickle due to the weather.
good morning. Todays early weather report (sponsored by my little girl waking me up too early) is that in Poole it is currently a bit breezy looking, grey clouds everywhere but not raining at present. Cannot give a temperature estimation as i'm not going outside in my pyjamas for you lot.
Will hopefully see you all in a few hours, although it does look a bit full of it.
it is lovely an sunny in Warwick, hope this helps
btw next weekend when i'm down in poole the weather, of course, will be glorious 😉
It is now what they technically describe as p***ing down.
It WILL rain this morning! Heavily......
It will then clear for a while and there's a distinct possibility of heavy showers afterwards.
Bring a WATERPROOF!!!!!
🙂
P1ssing down in Southampton but should clear for 10:30ish. Worth bringing a jacket but hopefully not a canoe. The trail is quite sandy so should drain reasonably.
Rains gone!!
Sunshine and blue skies!!!!
Well it was a bit damp under foot and a little windy on the exposed bits but I enjoyed it. Top marks to MrsPoddys Apple flapjack, DezB for riding with a plaster cast while towing his sons tag-a-long, Lydon for pedalling when DezB was struggling on the hills and CinnamonGirl for organising it.
We got caught out in that rain early on and i can tell you it was not pleasent at all. I had forgoten just how much fingers and toes hurt when they get properly cold. Other than that had a good day out once the rain went away.
i didnt realise there is riding to be had in the new forest!!
im based in marchwood and have been sitting on the spinner every night!
i have mailed you when i was here but i got no answer!!
will try again
Sorry - must have missed that
Thanks for the organising and guiding. Some fun riding, some fun bog treading! Wether certainly could've been much worse,seeing as it was peeing down all the way home.
Look forward to seeing PP's pics of me struggling!
Thanks for a good day chaps. Nice to put names to aliases, so to speak.
Look forward to the next ride.
:o)
What an action-packed day!
The miserable-itis virus has spread to the equine population, or rather their riders with their gobby tirade.
A loop of the Big Bike Bash circuit proved entertaining - one or two falls from the bike and one fall whilst pushing the bike, ahem! Duckling was almost on the menu for tonight's dinner - can't believe I almost rode over it.
Lots of bog crossings and poor Dez really had his work cut out with the trailer.
Saw where the Big Bike Bash action will be, most importantly the beer tent, also the chalets. Excellent choice of venue.
Good to see everyone and to meet new folk too.
Thanks for the ride chaps. A little soggy, but all good. I'll bring my snorkel next time - drains well my arse.
Soggy? You should've felt poor Lydon's shoes! Can you get Sealskins for 6 year olds??
Were there any cahs and horses, or did they stay indoors, like all sensible folk?
plenty of horses mate. runnin about all over the place they were.
Some of them with stroppy women on.
Did any of the stroppy women have tight jodhpurs on? Pity I weren't there; I cooduv used me charm, and won them over....
Oh yes Fred! But they would have rendered even you speechless! Acting like bloomin' land owners they were.
No, you underestimate me. Me, speechless? Come on...
Couple of mates and I had a bit of a tete-a-tete with some hoity-toity woman in Epping Forest, a few years back. She was claiming that we weren't allowed to ride our bikes there (bridleway), as we might frighten her horse. One of me mates was trying to politely reason with her, but she weren't having it. After a few minutes of this, and the argument going in circles, I got bored, and said 'you've got a right nice bum, you know?'.
She snorted, and rode off. My mates were on the floor.
Uptight horsey women? RudeBoy's yer man...
Yes; I know it's sexist and all that, but it works!
Love it!! But she would have produced her crop (whip to you non-horsey folk) and you may, or may not, have been happy!! She was a right sour-puss.
any pics of this ride ?
See, people like that a a right good challenge, for me. No point in trying to reason with them, as they will not be swayed from their lofty point of view. So, you need to introduce some obtuse tactics. In cases such as this one, when faced with members of the opposite sex, I find that using complimentary, even suggestive comments, suddenly, throws them completely off course. It's very effective. I once told an irate female car-driver she had 'sexy, passionate eyes'. Stopped her in her tracks. She was utterly disarmed, smiled, called me a 'cheeky bastard', and drove off. Job done.
See, trouble with youse lot, is you need my skills at diplomacy. I may run a workshop for youse, next time I'm down.
Trouble was, there was nothing attractive about those 2 hoity tarts.
They had noo effect on ou ride though.
PP took some photos so they should be around soon
Edit: photos of the ride, not the hoity tarts
Aw, boo.