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[Closed] My shock is being PUSHed. I think I'm building up unrealistic expectations.

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Bit the bullet and sent my 2013 Fox CTD shock to be serviced and PUSH tuned. I've never been 100% happy with it and the PUSH tune sounds like the answer.

The problem is I am now building up stupid levels of expectation as to how amazing my bike will be when I fit the tuned shock.

Come on STW, I can rely on you lot to bring me back down to Earth ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 1:20 pm
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Depends how cack it was before really.

Push tune is not much better than a well-set-up standard shock IME.

Not as good as a CCDB inline or even Monarch Debonair.

HTH

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Posted : 10/11/2015 1:24 pm
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depends a lot on the suspension design IME

and more so than with the front, If a rear shock is well set up you just dont notice it


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 1:41 pm
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Marginal gains in my experience (several years ago) as well.

The Push tune kind of improved a little in the area I had concern but lost it elsewhere.

Shocks and frame design have improved considerably and I more or less agree with cha****ng about set up.

IME shock and fork tuning only really benefits those at the very top of the performance range ie pro level or extremes of weight.


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 2:01 pm
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Thanks everyone. That's just what I needed ๐Ÿ˜‰

(I'll report back with my findings...)


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 2:18 pm
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What bike is it going on?

What were the issues you were having?

Did you try playing with volume spacers?


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 2:37 pm
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Transition Bandit 26"

Wallows through mid-stroke, especially sat down pedalling, not enough platform in climb mode, very little support when trying to "pop" off jumps and basically giving up travel too easily. I've fettled with spacers and varying the sag and still can't get it quite right. it was due for a service so thought I'd treat myself to the PUSH tune since I'm lead to beleive from TF Tuned that these are exactly the kind of problems the tune is designed to sort.

It's a done deal now. I just needed to reign my enthusiasm back in for if/when it made little difference ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 2:49 pm
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i get looked after by tftuned and when i bought my new saracen frames 16 and 14x they come with ctd shocks. i rode them for a while before having one push tuned. felt soooo good i had the other done. shock dont blow through mid travel now


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 3:11 pm
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Didn't you have a Bandit once Jedi?


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 3:18 pm
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yeah. didnt get that push tuned though. only my saracens


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 3:19 pm
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Had it done on my old Turner RFX, genuinely transformed that bike. TF know what they are doing and it will make a difference. BUT, you'll get used to it quick and it'll then be normal, so enjoy the first few rides!


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 3:52 pm
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Not PUSH, just a custom tune, the difference was huge though, went from really quite bad and uncontrollable, to barely noticing it working except you've just ridden over a huge rock garden without a 2nd thought.


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 4:03 pm
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I had mine done and it wasn't the revelation I was hoping for. It did replace some internals which were prone to leaking.
Using the spacers sorted it out though.


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 4:15 pm
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I push tuned the CTD on my Bandit 26 for all the reasons you mention and it did make a big difference, more mid support but really supple on little fast stuff. In hindsight I may have gone for even more support, or the bumper kit but it was definitely a big improvement. They'll have a second go at it within a couple of weeks if you're not entirely happy. Bandit 26 has quite a strange leverage path apparently.


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 4:34 pm
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Just got mine back from being done, so only a couple of rides in. A vast improvement over the cackness from before - firmer through the whole travel rather than just giving up the ghost about 60% of the way through. I think I'm at the limits of the shock but will run it for 6 months to give it a proper try and self tune. On the basis it's not tha much more than a service it's worth a try.


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 4:50 pm
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I liked mine, tbh the stock tune was fine as standard so there was no dramatic change in that, it just performed a wee bit better- more controlled but also smoother, it had a wee bit of coiliness off the top. Not sure it would have been worth the money (I got the shock already PUSHd)

The thing about custom tunes is, done right, it'll do what you said you wanted. That's no guarantee that you'll like it ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 5:04 pm
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Have a nose at the vosprung corset sleeve for use on the ctd.

Has sorted the initial harshness and lack of mid travel support on my ctd. Also the last bit of travel really ramps up with spring rate and I've not bottomed it out yet.


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 5:07 pm
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I've only had an old Van RV pushed and thought it was awesome. It made my old Big hit a much better bike.

If I'm honest, it was probably much better than the Demo that repalced it with a stock tune.


 
Posted : 10/11/2015 5:12 pm
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2 rides in and thoroughly impressed. The climb mode is now a useful near-lockout (with threshold blow-off) and the mid-stroke is loaadddss more supportive. It feels and rides like my bike, but with the support to go harder and faster. On the rocky descents it feels like a bigger bike with more "get out of jail free" capabilities.

Bloody love it!


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 12:13 pm
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Made a big difference on my Helius AC but a few years back on an older (better?) RP23 I don't remember such an improvement. To an extent I think it might depend how well TF know the frame design and what you ask for.

Not as good as a CCDB inline or even Monarch Debonair.

Not the advice I got.


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 12:47 pm
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I won't make you faster it will just give you more to talk about on STW ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 22/11/2015 1:23 pm