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We want to get a log stove fitted in our first floor living room - standard floorboards over joists. We've two HETAS registered installers around now - one has said fine, no problem, the other is fairly certain its not possible (due to the weight), but is looking into it.

I/we know that the hearth has to be a certain area to prevent sparks setting anything alight, and that it also has to be of a certain thickness (12mm provided the stove does not increase the temp of the hearth above 100C). Pretty ceratin it doesn't need a concrete base.

Has anyone had one fitted on a suspended / first floor? I cant see anything in the HETAS regs but maybe i'm missing something on weight restrictions. Seems a bit daft to say you cant when you have any other type of heavy furniture wherever you want...?


 
Posted : 16/11/2012 8:59 am
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Surely the weight cannot be a problem?

My stove weighs about 80kg which is about the same as me. There are plenty of people about who weigh 150kg and they are still allowed to go on the first floor of a house.

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Posted : 16/11/2012 9:12 am
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Thats what l was thinking. Just need to know if anyone definitely knows that you cannot do it?


 
Posted : 16/11/2012 9:15 am
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You can do anything. It's whether you get away with it that counts :O)

I would say on a practical level you'll be fine but shifting logs upstairs and ash downstairs will be a fag.

Tim


 
Posted : 16/11/2012 9:46 am
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Friends mum has a log burner in a first floor living room (upside down house - bedrooms downstairs with living area upstairs to take advantage of views across the valley).

As per the above, from a weight point of view I can't see it being an issue and as long as the wall behind it is protected (stone/tiles/plaster removed and a heat resistant render applied or something) then should be fine.


 
Posted : 16/11/2012 9:57 am
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I'd say have some floorboards up to take a look. The regular pattern of joists may be interrupted at the fireplace with a trimmer joist. You'll want to be happy it's in good nick, and that the hearth base will sit on it.


 
Posted : 16/11/2012 10:11 am
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If HETAS does not guid you, have you checked building Regs?

HETAS is still only a voluntary standard, building regs is where its at.

Saying that, I have had two HETAS inspectors from their HQ in Cheltenham in my livingroom, both arguing about building Regs standards 😉


 
Posted : 16/11/2012 10:11 am
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Its probably not a simple yes/no with a survey and/or lift the boards.

You've also got to ensure that the stove is (minimum 300mm) from a combustable surface.

We've just had a large stove installed, it weighs 100kg and the hearth is another 100kg... We laid a 2" concrete base surrounded/supported by stone on 21mm T&G which sit on 6" joists which sit on a concrete base - hopefully its not going to move.


 
Posted : 16/11/2012 10:24 am