[Closed] Let's see your modified kit

I'm using a mini cassette on a Hope SS too, though I just chucked mine on the mill at work 🙂 I'm using 7 cogs off an 11-34 XT cassette, dropping the 11 and 15t. To me having a 11t and 12t always seemed pointless, and the dishless rear wheel is nice.
Apparently you can fit 8 10sp cogs on a Hope SS hub too.

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Also, a Fox 180 Van 36 can be dropped in travel to as little as 135mm using a 160 Van spring and Fox spacers and no need to spring cutting.

Edit - James: Steve the anodiser is the man you want for small volume work.

Does manufactured count as modified? When the need arises, the occasional evening is spent in the 'shed of dread' making loud hammering noises and the occasional small puff of smoke, just like in the cartoons. Some creations that I have pictures of are:

A chain retainer made using on old derailleur, some spacers and washers:
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Slotted X7 shifter levers, to remove the useless indicators and save some infinitesimally small amount of weight:
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Modified Raceface seatpost clamp. I’ve seen a few like this one where either the bolt is too long or the hole too shallow. This prevents it clamping the saddle properly. The solution is to drill the hole all the way through, then anodise it green of course. I like green:
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Headset top cap designed to use a countersunk bolt, much lighter because there’s no dead metal around the top of the bolt. Used with an aluminium bolt it practically disappears due to it’s own lightweightiness:
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HT2 bottom bracket spacers of special thicknesses, 5mm for where two 2.5mm ones are usually required, and 1.5 & 4mm for Shimano BB’s where the 6mm bearings have been replaced with 7mm width bearings:
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Singlespeed sprocket spacers. Not difficult to get hold of, but just because they are the same diameter as BB spacers and I had the metal already in the lathe:
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More anodised spacers and things:
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you knew this was coming:

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Dropouts machined by a friend of a friend to fit 10mm bolt in Hope Pro2 with increased belt length and tension

Awaits Epicyclo and Ade Ward....

And some earleir iterations:

Snubber Mk1:

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Bent!

Dropout Mk1 with integrated snubber (the Gates snubber bent too) which I made on hand mill:

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Got around the belt climbing issue, but couldn't maintain belt tension

crogthomas, do you do the anodising yourself?

I like the dropout for belts.. would the snubber work better if it was moved forward to the are where the belt and cog mesh first?

I copied to the positional geometry from Gates, just put a sensible sized cross-section inplace to hold it there (and I've told Karl Nicolai his design is no good)
I think the position its in is where the belt starts to climb out when under tension, so no need to have it lower. in theory, higher tension removes the need for the snubber, but probably knackers the bearings.

This thread is useless without [s]pictures[/s] some cutlery/carbon fibre/epoxy-based **** whittery! 😉

jameso - Member
crogthomas, do you do the anodising yourself?

I do, but it is an almighty pain in the posteria, very tricky to get right the current, voltage, duration, acid concentration, cleaning and electrical contact. I do it because it amuses me, not because it makes sense to do so.

jameso - Member
I like the dropout for belts.. would the snubber work better if it was moved forward to the are where the belt and cog mesh first?

I was thinking the same. Where it is, if the belt climbs onto the peaks of the cog, its then too late for the snubber to do anything. If it was forward of the centreline it would prevent the belt ever climbing up in the first place. See my chain retainer above as an example. It doesnt have to touch the belt, just be there to guide it onto the cog if it bounces around.

Quick think about this and a FBD in my head.
For the belt to be "trying" to climb the teeth, its because the tension in the upper run is enough to pull the belt all the way around the cog and there's enough slack in the bottom run to allow it to slip round. Where the belt joins the cog, the belt wil be pulled against the teeth but still into the cog, its not until you get part way round that the resultant force is in the right direction to overcome the friction against the teeth and cause the belt to slide up. Hence, the snubber roller is towards the bottom, but not AT the bottom.

I can tell the belt still occasionally rubs against it as there is a stripe on the back of the belt, and you can occasionally hear it whirring, but its only under absolute max torque on really steep slow climbs.

[i](just in case, FBD = free body diagram)[/i]

I do it because it amuses me, not because it makes sense to do so.

A perfectly good reason... : )

I think the belt tries to ride up because of flex in the chainstay.

That causes the rear sprocket to be pulled out of parallel with the front, so the row of belt teeth are arriving at the cog at a slight angle, and thence to catch on the top of the teeth and try to ride up.

It's why a stiff chainstay is important.

I do not use much more tension than I would with a chain.

I have not tried the new CenterTrack belts which apparently help solve this problem.

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The flex is certainly an issue, which is why I'm using a bolt-in hub - I've had issues with the belt slipping off the unflanged side in the past. As you say, centre-track would solve it.

I don't think its the belt teeth catching on the cog teeth though, just amount of slack in the lower run allowing the belt to be pulled round and up on the teeth when under greatest load.

Does a whole bike count? (warning - E-stay 29er content)
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=167593

Apologies about the photo size - there are some better resized pics down the bottom of the page. Anyone cleverer than me that can linky to the photos?

Good work Mick! I saw that on MTBR I think.

Again, waits for Ade Ward's E-stayed belt-drive 29er....

🙂

Not as impressive as some of the above but I've modded the spare hole on the right hand Hope XT matchmaker to mount the poplock lever for my Rebas. Does away with the whole mount, looks neater and brings the lever into a much better position.

Not so much modified but designed and had made:-
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Previous model is for sale on ebay at present:-
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Nicknoxx - what's going on there then?

Nicknoxx - love that little "N" in there! 😀

pics nixie??

Nicknoxx, who made that for you? Nice dropout.

Here's another home-bodge, a rear cycra guard trimmed down and mounted to a fork with a bottle cork, a self-tapping screw and a zip-tie - works a lot better than the old down-tube mounted guard

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A broken bashguard cut down to make a mini-bash for the SS -

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pics nixie??

Not on me, will sort some when I get home.

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My pals attempt at home anno.

Could some one please tell me WTF is the point in having a single speed with gears? Surely you are just in denial and should go back to a proper bike?

Could some one please tell me WTF is the point in having a single speed with gears?

Do you mean the singlespeed hub mods above?? Surely its because you want gears but either don't need the full range, or want less dish in the rear wheel (for more strength).

crogthomas, did you use a kit for doing the anodising? Been thinking of doing some myself.

great work nicknoxx. And jameso, now Im a proud owner of one of them noodly things, that looks a great idea.

This is my bodge of a speedbone to fit a rohloff into a Ti29er with slotted dropouts.
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Chainguide for my Absolut SX, made from 2 x DMR old Chain Reactor hinged clamps and a Superstar plastic guide. I've used DMR clamps many times before along with a MRP/DMR roller, bolt and spacers but this time due to the bend in the seat tube, the position wasn't quite right and I couldn't get the guide to sit low enough, hence the extra bracket made from a cut down clamp.

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Works very well, quiet as a mouse, but the plastic guide is susceptible to being knocked upwards out of alignment - I guess serrated washers may help . . . or less crashing 😆

nixie - Member
crogthomas, did you use a kit for doing the anodising? Been thinking of doing some myself.

No, I did it myself using drain cleaner, battery acid, an old lab power supply and some clothes dye.
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It's dangerous, smelly, inconsistant and takes ages.
If you want to spend your entire evening dressed in overalls, rubber gloves and goggles, with your eyes watering and the hairs in your nostrils burning, all to produce one anodised trinket that you might have to strip back and do again, then it's a great pastime. Otherwise I'd recomend getting someone else to do it for you. Far more sensible.

You can buy kits though, like this one:
http://www.frost.co.uk/automotive-electroplating/aluminium-anodising-kit.html

You can't beat a bit of good old fashioned drilling.

I was told this would explode in flames and kill me if i so much as looked at it. 😆

Still going strong along with three others that i've done the same to.

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The last one looks like it could be fun when it gets muddy.

Pretty simple one here , fixed on a centerlock hub

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Do you mean the singlespeed hub mods above?? Surely its because you want gears but either don't need the full range, or want less dish in the rear wheel (for more strength).

Like conventional builds aren't strong enough, and missing a few sprockets will make all the difference in weight.

Top job on the rims. Did you weigh the bits you removed?

Best thread in ages! Thanks chaps 😀

Do you mean the singlespeed hub mods above?? Surely its because you want gears but either don't need the full range, or want less dish in the rear wheel (for more strength).
Like conventional builds aren't strong enough, and missing a few sprockets will make all the difference in weight.

then how about "because they want to..."

always been good enough reason for me

@M6TTF
First pic is my 50th birthday bike, completely custom.
Second pic is just a modified dropout on a Kona A (the one for sale).

@jameso Frame was made by Lynskey

What? these bits? I think the swarf would have weighed about half as much as the bits that I dug out the holesaw. 😆

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I didn't weigh them but someone else did a before and after weighing job on the same rim with slightly bigger holes and recond it lost 300grams. 🙂

Stoner,

What brake pads are you running in the M965-R XTR caliper?

They look bigger than the standard Shimano offerings.

PaulD

Flow, it's just a better wheelset for someone who rides SS 29er. Adding gears for some rides is an option with the cassette mod. Choice is a good thing?

What? these bits?

If you'd planned it properly, you could have made a lifetime supply of top-caps.. )

I didn't weigh them

I don't blame you, I wouldn't : ) just interested and I'm now looking at my holesaw and my P35s.. but no, just no..

Pauld, standard shimano pads. might not be shimano brand, but they'll be the same form factor. photo was taken ages ago though. currently using SSC pads sintered

I'm now looking at my holesaw and my P35s

Go on, go on, go on, go on. 😀

Oh that reminds me I've got a Kris Holm rim built up on an Alfine that I could take the drill to next.

Flow, it's just a better wheelset for someone who rides SS 29er. Adding gears for some rides is an option with the cassette mod. Choice is a good thing?

Errr, I already know that, thats why I have 10 speed with 3 chainrings, crazy idea eh!

I'm resisting. But now wondering about a drilled out UST convertion winter front wheel project.

SSS, my father-in-law stopped and talked to someone with drilled rims riding a Jones bike somewhere near Wordlsey Woods, Stourbridge about 6 months ago, it may even have been you. Said he was amazed by both the rims and the bike and was concidering taking a drill to his motorbike rims.

Errr, I already know that, thats why I have 10 speed with 3 chainrings, crazy idea eh!

So do I, crazy huh.

Could some one please tell me WTF is the point in having a single speed with gears? Surely you are just in denial and should go back to a proper bike?

Not a single speed if it has gears.

Lunge.

I do remember chatting to someone and him mentioning trying to drill out his motorbike rims.

home built 51mm offset U turn 29er frankenforks,

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converted xtr dual control shifter systems to lovely disc brakes

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home stripped and polished frame and jone-esque cranks

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Quite a few bits have changed since this picture was taken and I might have spannered the front one in a big crash a week or so ago (needs checking) 🙁

I cut the arms off my Mountain Warehouse fleece, using a pair of kitchen scissors. Do I win the thread?

You only win if you did that to make arm-warmers..

Arm-coolers.

No win?

I'm not qualified to judge.. I just polish stuff. I'm off to do my helmet next.

Can't really polish a fleece tbh, they just melt.

The only other thing I can think of is a mud guard to protect the mechanism of my KS i950 dropper post (made out of part of an old mudguard) fitted to the saddle and the post. Loads of problems with mud causing the cable/mechanism to stick before fitting and absolutely none since (no pic, sorry).

My drilled fat bike rims lost 400gm. Stu still slagged me off 🙁

I have other DIY conquests but I'm tired of keyboard warriors insulting them.

Come on Al don't be like that it was nothing to do with your rim. 😉

Get em posted up.

What do I win?
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Al, that disc fork was a bold DIY project and should be celebrated : ) Got any more like that?

*cracks knuckles*

The one...the only...Frankenbike (mk 2)

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[url= [/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/7693620@N05/ ]alan cole[/url], on Flickr

DIY carbon/steel brake mount - who'd have thought the steel would fail?

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/7693620@N05/6237174444/ ]IMAG0785[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/7693620@N05/ ]alan cole[/url], on Flickr

UK's 2nd full suss fat bike

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[url= [/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/7693620@N05/ ]alan cole[/url], on Flickr

Full carbon mount

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Rear mount in carbon/steel

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/7693620@N05/5775054459/ ]IMAG0567[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/7693620@N05/ ]alan cole[/url], on Flickr

Pompetamine gear hanger

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drilled rims

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LAtest project

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Laughs at Al's lack of drilling skillz. 😉

Though the Fatmarinthingy could have been good.

one insult, one back-handed compliment 🙄

MArrowfat will be awesome (when fixed)

Inspiring. DIY carbon on brake mounts gets maximum points.

Like conventional builds aren't strong enough, and missing a few sprockets will make all the difference in weight.

Wheel not hub. Less dish -> stronger wheel for the same weight.

But regular rear wheels are strong enough.

cynic-al - Member

But regular rear wheels are strong enough.

My 16st and flatland 360s say otherwise... even without rotation, beasting jumps, drops and rocky hell mean some insurance is worth a few less gears that you struggle to choose between anyhoo.

If you believe it makes a difference...

Chainguide for my Absolut SX, made from 2 x DMR old Chain Reactor hinged clamps and a Superstar plastic guide. I've used DMR clamps many times before along with a MRP/DMR roller, bolt and spacers but this time due to the bend in the seat tube, the position wasn't quite right and I couldn't get the guide to sit low enough, hence the extra bracket made from a cut down clamp.

Weirdly mine is exactly the same, only slightly cooler as I used a piece of carbon 😉

Got a small sheet of it with a view to making the cage out of carbon in the long run, but not got around to it yet. Seems to work better than the normal Superstar guide as it's far stiffer, never dropped the chain yet!

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C-al how much rear wheel travel do you get on that fat beauty?

@tazzymtb
Have you go any more details on those forks?

"Do you mean the singlespeed hub mods above?? Surely its because you want gears but either don't need the full range, or want less dish in the rear wheel (for more strength).
Like conventional builds aren't strong enough, and missing a few sprockets will make all the difference in weight.

then how about "because they want to...""

If its a Hope SS hub then you'd also get twice the pickup speed over a pro II as well?

nicknoxx, yep I wrote a buffoons guide to frankenfork conversions for rockshox that I emailed out to interested ****lers a while back. email me and I'll dig it out for you

tazwadie At hotmail Dot com

4" Stuey

Neat njee20!

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