[Closed] let's see your Croix De Fer's

oh well, just me then 😛

I'll play!

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This is my wife's initial response to your pic, velomanic

"GET IT OFF THE DINNING TABLE!!!"

Yay 🙂 what chainset on that one ?

My 2009/2010

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Nice bike but overkill for a short commute so sold it last year for a much cheaper alternative.

Bregante what you running now?

2nd hand Spesh Singlecross. The CdF funds went into a Cotic Solaris (by way of a Karate Monkey en route).

The Singlecross is more than adequate for its purpose (and a damn sight lighter)

Apologies for any offence caused to Mrs y0eddy!

The chainset's Ultegra 6700 38/52, a recent addition to see if my legs would handle it!

A biggish gear....

Aye, it's big for the Isle of Man, not many flat roads here!

Hah, I'm on a 34\30 and ran out on some steep stuff up behind lochgoilhead !

Sounds brutal! How are you getting on with the bike?

Yeah, was a bit steep ! Loving it really. It replaced an 07 Jake the Snake, so a lot more comfort, a couple more gears and an extra few pounds. It is more able off road though. Been playing with tyres, between the ones it came with, small block 8's and some other knobbly contis on way. Also have 32c slicks for road duties. No negatives so far, although have kicked the rear brake with left heel a few times.

Loving mine too. I wanted a disk-braked road bike that was both comfortable and able to withstand being ridden hard on poor / broken road surfaces and it does the job brilliantly. Had 28mm Conti GP4S for the summer, just put a pair of GatorSkins on for winter duties. I've made a few changes including swapping the brakes for TRP Hy/Rd's which work really well. Interesting that you've had a couple of heel strikes now they've moved the rear brake inboard. The only change I'd make is to route the rear brake cable down the centre of the top tube for a neater line!

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22.5 lbs with pedals, lovely to ride.

My equilibrium is 20.5lbs, so I don't think that is bad at all.

Seriously lighter than the brick retail version.

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Looks good Jamie 🙂 (wtf is that cage tho ?!)

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And how it looks now having been ridden into a BMW

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Ouch 🙁

http://www.zefal.com/en/bottle-cages/50-spring.html

Going for a 2-tone effect.

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...which is slightly ruined by the Genesis paint being paper thin and already being down to the bare metal at some points inside the stays.

To their credit, they did send me some touch up paint.

Yeh ouch, still off work from beginning of december

Jamie - mine came with touch up paint, odd but nice touch 🙂

I'd love a Croix De Fer for some reason, just a shame they don't offer one with a carbon fork. Have you seen the new Equilibrium Disc? I've just got a standard Equilibrium, it's a great bike though.

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Fine looking bike David 🙂 equilibrium disc would be on my list if looking for something more roadesq.

Not mine obviously, but having seen one of these in the LBS on Saturday, I am feeling a strong lure towards it!
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Fine looking bike David

😀 Not entirely convinced tbh....

The Equilibrium Disc looks like it'd cover what alot of people use their CDF's for (road/rough road/fire road), but better! Although perhaps not quite as good for real off road stuff...

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Not mine obviously, but having seen one of these in the LBS on Saturday, I am feeling a strong lure towards it!

Lovely looking frame, seems strange they spec it as a full bike with fairly average bits. I'd have thought most people would do a custom build on one of them.

CFH - looks lovely but a lot extra over standard one, with as mentioned above not top spec kit. Also brake caliper unmoved on that version, which may or may not be good.

Yep, some of the bits are a bit low end, but a lovely frame.

And, I suspect that people would want to tweak the spec anyway (Commuter, tourer, race bike etc) so better to pour money in to the frame.

Not entirely convinced tbh....

They're ok.

Consider yourself convinced.

A lot of money for the full bike, though.

Consider yourself convinced.

It's got blue brake cables and mudguards. I think "just ok" is about right.

I sold my CdF because I [i]thought[/i] I needed a FS MTB more......... *tuts, shakes head* 😳

ROSE XEON DX-2000 2014 - This looks good for a full build road disc as does the PX Kaffenback 2 (but its quite heavy)

The Equilbrium Disc and Croix De Fer look good but quite steep £££ as pointed out

Haven't found much else that is more roadish [with discs] than CX

First short ride on mine today. It's only taken me 6 moths to put together! 🙄 better pics tomorrow!

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Nice long steerer Andy 🙂

Just in from first ride since a bit mtb crash 2 weeks ago, 25 quiet road miles on the CDF, Lovely 🙂

First short ride on mine today. It's only taken me 6 moths to put together! better pics tomorrow!

I thought I was bad at 2 months...

CDF on my short, short list for new bike - has anyone put a 29'er wheel set on theirs yet? Does the hub fit across the rear, and what's the clearance like for say a 40mm 29'er tyre (ie 1.6 RR's or similar)?

Lucien, not sure on hub widths as hubs road sized. A 40 mm tyre would go in back. Front standard tyre is a 35mm conti CX, which is pretty close to fork crown

Thanks Iain's, Road hubs are 130mm, MTB hubs are 135mm - would the frame flex enough for these

Lucien, probably, being steel !

@Lucien.

The Croix De Fer is spaced for a 135mm rear hub.

Here is the tyre clearance on the lower stays running a 700cc 35mm Schwalbe Smart Sam on a [url= http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/products/wheels/crosslight-cxdisc ]Kinesis CXDisc wheel.[/url]

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Personally, I wouldn't bother with 29er wheels on a Croix De Fer.

Jamie, glad you popped along 😳

75 Kms today. Out to the Mull of Galloway, Port Logan, Port Patrick and back to Drummore. Feeling a bit tired! V pleased so far. Trundles along quite nicely and easily copes with rough roads

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Nice long steerer Andy

And that's on a 60cm frame with a an inline seatpost and 70mm stem. Looked for other alternatives with shorter top tube and there weren't. Maybe something custom next year if the format works.

I thought I was bad at 2 months...

That its taken 6 months clearly demonstrated how urgently it was needed 😉

Aye, saddle looks quite far forward too, lovely looking bike tho'. What size are those travel contacts ?

I am surprisingly impressed with the Conti CrossSpeed 35's that came with it. First ride was 4 hrs round Argarten peninsula which included some pretty steep and tecky ups and downs. I did lose traction a few times on the ups but stable on the descents which were more rough and rocky than muddy. 24 mile hilly home road loop today, after a few weeks injured and still managed 16mph average so they do roll well. (By comparison my fastest on carbon road bike is about 18.5, so the CDF is quite sprightly)

Ardgarten peninsula - very nice.

Tyres (been in the garage a while) are 35mm I think on Mavic TN719 rims/hope hubs - an old pair of mtb wheels. Think I'll get something a bit faster.

Rest is a 105 group from Merlin. Spyres. An old EC70 seatpost that I couldn't sell a year ago. Forks are Kinesis Carbon - originally was going to use an older steel Volante frame but the headtube was way too short.

To do 75kms out of the bag is the sign of quite a good bike.

Sounds a nice solid build Andy and a decent distance out the bag as you say 🙂

I am coming from an 07 Jake the Snake and the Genesis seems a better bike for my needs so far.

Hmm. Was having a think about fitting a carbon fork next year, and that Kineses doesn't look too bad.

Assume it's a D37?

Mine just built as-yet unridden.

Jamie Yeah DC37. Some say they judder a bit but I have insufficient experience to comment. On offer at Edinburgh Bike Coop as well at the moment for £100

Iain my last bike like this was a Soma Doublecross which was lovely but do prefer the discs on this. (Looked at the Doublecross disc and Salsa Vaya but geometry, weight and price put me off)

[quote=Andy ]75 Kms today. Out to the Mull of Galloway, Port Logan, Port Patrick and back to Drummore. Feeling a bit tired! V pleased so far. Trundles along quite nicely and easily copes with rough roads
Lovely roads. I must plan another visit.

Jamie Yeah DC37. Some say they judder a bit but I have insufficient experience to comment. On offer at Edinburgh Bike Coop as well at the moment for £100

try again

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yes, yes I was in Metallica.

yes, yes I was in Metallica.

I assume this is the first ever time this joke has been made?

joke?

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Aha - Mr D mentioned a CX bike.....

its been a while in the making (3 months) but gears needed* for the new commmute and hopefully do some mini tours next year.

*Preferable

joke?

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Some nice red bits there 🙂

Hi, new member from Finland checking in!

When I decided to go for the Croix de Fer I got frustrated over the fact that there was quite little information and pictures available on the internet except for pics of stock builds, so I decided to post here for future reference because it seems to be one of the few places where this particular model is being discussed (and there's pictures too!)

I had a clear vision of what I wanted: A "do it all"-bike to take care of all the riding that my fun/stupid bike (EAI Bareknuckle skinny tyred brakeless fixed) and my full sus trailbike (Trek Rumblefish Elite) couldn't handle - for me that means crappy weather riding (when it's too cold or too snowy for the trails or the road), gravel grinding, the occasional cross jaunt and bike touring and general mucking about :). I knew I wanted a steel frame, it had to have disc brake tabs and it needed to be fairly cheap. I used to have a Genesis Day One cross a few years ago and I always kind of regretted selling it because I liked the ride quality and the price/quality-ratio of it. I looked into loads of options and ended up with two possibile candidates: The Croix de Fer and the new Traitor Crusade. A two month wait for the Traitor and an increase in price of 1/3 in comparison to the Genesis sealed the deal and the point of no return had been reached 🙂

Parts spec is Sram Force, BB7 roads and the fit and forget Thomson and Chris King-kit (which I have on all of my bikes). I'm also a Flite junkie, fits me perfectly (not on my MTB though, I prefer the SDG Circuit there). At the moment I'm using a cheapo Deore-hubbed 29er wheelset but am upgrading it this spring to a lightweight (Notubes ZTR Alpha 340 Disc/Novatec 711/712) set for use with skinnier road tyres (28 mm) for touring and road rides and this will remain as my crappy condition wheelset. This should bring the weight down to around 10 kgs. I also swapped out the stock fork for a Kinesis DC37 since I found the stock fork surprisingly harsh - nothing I had read a word about online so maybe it's just me 🙂 Definitely one of the stiffest steel forks I've encountered, probably because of the beefy tubes and the straight blades.

No full fenders at the moment because of the snow and freezing temperatures but they will be put back on and probably staying on for most of the time. For bike touring I use a Tubus Fly rear rack and panniers.

Thanks for reading, here are some pics to make my babbles seem worthwhile 🙂

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Oh yeah, coming from a mainly MTB background the geometry felt just right from the beginning and I've been riding this bike quite a bit since I got it built in November. We just recently got snow so it's been mainly gravel road rides with cx tyres and a few with the studded ones. Even though I'm really waiting for spring to come and bike touring season to begin I'm quite liking the riding conditions right now too. All the potential there to be the do-it-all bike it was meant to be.

That's a lovely looking example indeed 🙂 interesting to see how much clearance that fork has compared to the stock one too.

I really need to stop seeing Croix De Fers with those D37 forks....

*must resist*

^^ You mean mudguard clearance? Haven't experienced any trouble with the stock fork, 42 mm Sks Bluemels and Maxxis Raze 33 mm tyres or with the Marathon Winters. Haven't been out in proper muddy conditions though, just your regular gravel roads and some minor muddy patches.

The Kinesis does have a lot more space between the treads and the crown which would indicate more clearance.

Mudguard clearance, yes. The stock one is a little tight with 35c conti's but yours looks to have a lot more space

Think the Dc37 makes the front a bit lighter and more agile as well. I have now gone from an 80mm stem (I got it wrong above) to a 70mm stem which has allowed the seat to go back from its ridiculous position in the photo above 😀

It absolutely does. And has the added benefit (depending on preferences) of getting a normal height spacer stack below the stem with a comfortable saddle to bar drop.

Agreed and I struggle with head tube length and spacers (need high to match saddle height) v top tube length (need shorter) on most frames. If this really does work with the pair of spare road wheels I have built as my do all road bike then will consider something custom in the future

Think the Dc37 makes the front a bit lighter and more agile as well.

It absolutely does

Good to know. Will persevere with the original fork for a bit, as only just got the fork fitted, but looks like the D37 will be a viable option in a couple of months.

I haven't weighed the stock fork but I guess the Kinesis is about 300-400 grams lighter which is a quite significant difference and definitely noticeable. In the current setup (but with the Maxxis Razes) the bike weighed 10,9 kg and with the stock fork and mudguards 11,75 kg. I guesstimate the fenders to weigh about 400-500 grams so that would would leave the above weight difference for the fork.

Got round to taking a pic of mine. Had it about 2 months. The stock saddle and bar tape came off before it left the shop and fitted trusty sdg bel air as per all my bikes.
Fitted SKS Commuter 45 mudguards which just clear the stock tyres (provided you're not going mud plugging) and then later fitted some Gatorskins in 28mm as only been off road twice on it so far. Will prob swap back when local trails aren't submerged.
Topeak rack takes an MTX pannier bag for carrying my stuff to work and back, 15mile each way. Very enjoyable and a world apart from the Roadtat it replaced.
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Apologies for the sale post but I have an old carbon fork off a 2009 Croix, same dims as the cr-mo one. Available for a fair offer (will be donated to a good cause as it was a sample), plus postage of around £8. A few chips but totally sound and fits a 58cm, I used the cr-mo fork more so it's not had much use.
(some nice bikes on here, looks great in black)

Gah. I wish I wasn't trying to curb my spending this Jan 🙁

Could you email me some pics, James. You should have my email from when I sold you those rotors, or it's in my profile.

Will get you some pics tomorrow.