I just don't care anymore. I'm off to ride my bike.
Can I come?
I'll have to jog as i'm going to have to sell my bike to pay my mortgage.
Ok, Ok. I promise that's the last one.
oops...double sarcasm.
So we've gone from an injured cyclist to suicidal ASDA workers now?
The point is, it is always possible to have a lifestyle change. I'm sure you are a good father molgrips, you can always decide what direction your life takes.
I said it was hypothetical. My life is reasonably on track at the moment.
The reason I don't work in Cardiff (where I live) is that we'd have little money, we'd have to scrimp and save and my wife would never see her family. That wouldn't make for good quality of life in our house.
It's so easy to make light of other people's problems when you don't have them yourself. I think that is exactly GG's position.
I wonder what'll happen if he loses his job. Will he move to find a new one and uproot his family; will he take one that's 30 miles away and requires a drive; or will he take a 60% pay cut to preserve that 20 minute bike ride?
While I admit that I littered this thread with sarcasm, there was some thinly veiled fact in amongst it...
For many people, quitting their job in the big smoke and taking big pay cuts locally isn't an option. They have bills to pay (mortgages being the biggest one) which can't just be ignored.
Molgrips, I fear it is a losing battle, you can't convince someone who doesn't want to be wrong, or refuses to believe they are wrong
McHamish - MemberMolgrips, I fear it is a losing battle, you can't convince someone who doesn't want to be wrong, or refuses to believe they are wrong
You describing Molgrips?
julians - Member
"... but theres a lot of self righteous pompus balls spouted on it a lot of the time."
you're not wrong
"A lot of people on here need to learn some tolerance towards others choices. "
If they are like they are on here in real life then yes, but I think mostly they aren't.
It's the Interwebs - rejoice in the opportunity for middle-aged extreme sportists to spout amusing drivel with little or no real consequence. Especially when they can also help you service your hub or find a new trail.
It does amuse me the desperate lengths people will go to to justify their car usage. apparently those of us without cars simply don't have a life as its impossible to do so without one.
apart from we save thousands of pounds a year and thousands of hours spent going to and from work in cars. Thats a lot of time and money to have a life with
Depends where you live really. When we lived in London it could be so long between drives that i would genuinely forget where the ****er was parked.
Now we're out in the sticks, the missus would find it very hard to do without. I could probably just about manage it, but would be knackered the whole time.
Molgrips, I fear it is a losing battle, you can't convince someone who doesn't want to be wrong, or refuses to believe they are wrongYou describing Molgrips?
That's rich.
It does amuse me the desperate lengths people will go to to justify their car usage. apparently those of us without cars simply don't have a life as its impossible to do so without one
That's not what any of us are saying, least of all me.
apart from we save thousands of pounds a year and thousands of hours spent going to and from work in cars. Thats a lot of time and money to have a life with
It's good that it works for you. However we aren't all in the same position. For some, not having a car would cost lots more money and time.
Why is necessary to justify car usage? I assume because cars can be dangerous and because they cause pollution in each of their manufacture, their use and their disposal.
On the danger side of the argument, is it necessarily an either / or argument? Reducing speed limits would apparently reduce the number of fatalities and would mean car folk could keep on trucking - basically lowering the amount of risk deemed acceptable.
On the pollution side, lots of our modern consumerist goodies are polluting, at least in their manufacturing, shipping and disposal. I think the only thing that will make any real difference to the 'health' of the planet in the medium and long term is population control. The UK going car free would just mean the price of petrol dropped a bit and useage increased across the rest of the world.
I think a hell of a lot of work could be done remotely. I would dearly love this to become the norm. It'd solve loads of problems but create one of slashed fuel duty revenue for the govt.
I can't believe this thread is still going...
s'alright - it will run out of fuel sometime soon
You're saying we've passed peak posting?
Not with him on it it won't ^^^
If you are going to quote stats it's better to be accurate.2222 road deaths in 2009. Nowhere near 3000.
No miles away from [u][b]1[/b][/u].
I'm happy thatb 2k is as significant as 3k, if you think you can shoot down the significance of my argument by saying that my numers are out from 3k to 2.2k then you are mental.
You "3k dead on the roads, this is terrible, I say ban cars."
Me "No you are wrong it was 2.2k last year"
You "Ohhh 2.2 k really?, well sod it then thats ok, let build a few more roads and subsidise road use"
You effing moron, what made you think your opinion was valid such that you would even bother to approach the keyboard. Pillock.
[i]You effing moron ... Pillock.[/i]
I say, that's a bit strong.
I'm all for healthy debate and taking the piss but that might have gone a bit far?
That wasn't nice. Disagree, argue...but don't be rude.
Hope your pal gets better mate, thoughts are with him. I commute by bike and usually its not bad, its the small percentage as everything in life that causes issues.
Tonight a taxi driver cut me up and nearly took me out. Reported him to the company, council and police for his stunt.
Ahh bollocks you idiots need insulting every now and then. Come on, what the hell is the significance between 2.2 k road dead an 3k. Its still ruddy awful, and you are hung up on me being rude. Bloody morons.
You can actually hire a Brompton + bag + lights from SWT themselves and if you hold an annual season ticket it works out to £2 a week..
costs more if you do not have an annual season ticket but still a deal.
I'd like to avoid the underground as I HATE IT, but Southwest Trains will not let me take my bike (unless I buy a Brompton or something) on their trains at peak time. I could cycle to my office from home but it would be a 52km round trip, and i live in London! I'm not a morning person so doubt I would have the energy for that every day, so might have to take the train sometimes, but that costs in the region of £15
I hope your friend makes a full recovery. I always drive into London and use a taxi to get around when I'm there. I would mention I usually drive it in a 6 litre V12 but I would probably be lynched