[Closed] King & Queen Of The Hill- Who's in? (nae tyre chat allowed!!)

So what do we reckon

As for local advantage....separating the mid pack absolutely though given the trails are all fairly well used I reckon general local knowledge will be enough to make a difference even if you haven't pre-ridden stuff. Aside from any cheeky random taping, most stages are pretty well worn

Sounds good to me , only ridden the golfie once before so will have to practice there but have ridden the glentress stuff so wondering if I should give glentres stuff a miss on Saturday to save the legs . What's the big climb like from the golfie to the mast ?

I'm sticking to golfie only tomorrow, embarrassingly only ridden there once. Even without my chance riding of the GT stages last night I know both of them like back of my hand so little point busting a gut tomorrow to ride them, save the legs

I think it's going to be a great day. There are 2 long and 2 short stages at each location with a big transition in between. The 5.15 total time might catch some folk out if there are queues for the stages. The rain forecast for Saturday night will make things interesting if it materialises.

I can understand some folk being hacked off with locals. like myself, figuring out what the trails are in advance but it must be the same for all enduros. So much planning has to go on that it's inevitable that locals who are on the trails regularly will figure out what's being used pretty easily.

Shame it's not held on Tweed green in Pebbles again? And that Cademuir is omitted? Still looks pretty rad. Bricking it a bit now...

Loving the weather forecast tbh. Practice in the dust. Rain like **** all night. Race in the sun, in the mud. Chaos ensues but at least we don't get wet 😆 If we're really lucky it'll start to dry up and go all sticky.

I've not been up Cademuir for absolutely ages but there was a lot of felling up there in the areas where the mtb trails are...

Some of the Cademuir trails are a total write off. Most of the DH trail is intact but the top of Stage4 (or Steep 'n Nasty) is wrecked. There's plans for some of us to go in and do some building/maintenance but not much has been done yet. It's a shame as I live at the bottom of the descent and used to ride there every day.

Just ridden a few stages today as they are taped, not racing but will be fun if it gets proper wet 🙂

[i]What's the big climb like from the golfie to the mast ? [/i]

Long, open and you can pretty much see the top all the way..., bottom gear needed 🙂

I reckon that for us Mincers it'll be S2 that decides our 'placings' 'cos it's hard work in the wet, but for the fast boys it'll be S3 - as it's the longest and the one where you can make/lose the most time with the little climbs and good/bad line choices.

Think I did s2 today, nice little run that, still dry...

I reckon that for us Mincers it'll be S2 that decides our 'placings' 'cos it's hard work in the wet

Community Service in the wet can be proper horrible. It seems to be perma dry at the moment though so fingers crossed.

Anyone after a last minute entry, had a mate pull out and seems too late to hand it back through the official channels

If it's wet, stage 1 will be the biggest decider, as it'll most likely turn into a muddy hell, and even if it's not that wet, it'll be pretty slidey (was brilliant fun last weekend!)
Stage 2 won't make that much difference in the grand scheme of things, provided you can handle wet tree roots.
Stage 3 will kill those without the stamina, as it's a long fairly pedally stage, with a couple climbs just big/long enough to sap energy, and that's not considering the Leithen Water transition to get there beforehand.
Stage 4 is just steep and fast. Again, wet tree roots will be the big decider.

Northwind, you're chainstays and mech hangers are in the car. I'll only be at registration briefly tomorrow, so provided you survive until Sunday, you can collect them then.

Oooh, mowicu CNC goodness... Cheers!

Looks like I'm start Marshall 1, so at least you'll all be fresh and raring to go, right?! 🙂

Happy with how things are shaping up, just a case of how wet it's going to get.

Would it be easy or worth spectating at this? My wee lad (6yr old) has just asked to go down to watch it.

If you head to GT you can get to the bottom of stage 4 very easily.

Hi jodafett, the glentress stages should be easier to spectate than the golfie ones. Go to registration at the old hub car park, glentress, and ask for a route map.

Thanks for the info. The wee lads not into walking far so Glentress sounds like best option! How long does the race last?

Great fun today... I'd kind of forgotten just how much riding there is in community service, it must have anti gravity in it somewhere. Also, is it in last blast where they've put the 3 Arrows Of Death halfway down a steep bit once you're fully committed and might have a bit of bother making the corner 🙂 Ace stages. It'll be nice to not feel completely hammered at the start of the day, too!

Also, if you take the inside line on the other side of the stump to avoid the wee hole with the roots in, then turn hard and stay tight, the awkward root that runs right down the trail, instead becomes an incredibly perfect catchberm and leaves you pointing directly into the best line through the next bit. No I'm not going to say where this is, l00serz.

Glad I'm not racing... Seriously £40 to ride about 5km of trail in a 40km loop with the rest linking fireroad (Not even singletrack!) Folk must be daft... And as for the organisers... They call it Tweedlove which suggests the whole of the Tweed Valley. So why not move the setup around and base this years King and Queen in Innerleithen so more stages on more trails and so less linking crap.

Official maximum time on track is 5hr15min, however most riders should be looking to finish it in around 3-4hrs I'd guess.
Last rider should leave somewhere around 10:35 (there may be later start times, but I was only briefly at registration today), so all being well, most riders should be back before 4, and hopefully nearer 3.

There may be a race whippet on stage 4 before 11, but I wouldn't expect the masses to start until nearer 12.

My start time's 10:50! Am I DQ'd?

Northwind, I have every faith in your ability to disqualify yourself!

Last start times could be nearer 11, but it's not something I need to know. The only start time I'm interested in, is the one from when you leave the start area.

Excellent day, rode new wolf and community service a couple of times, cake and coffee in Inners and back in Edinburgh for a late lunch and hopefully fresher legs for tomorrow from not busting a gut today. Trails were running excellent, really looking forward to tomorrow when I'm obviously racing a different event to the guy above who has seen one with 5k of trails and loads of fire road 😉

[i]Official maximum time on track is 5hr15min, however most riders should be looking to finish it in around 3-4hrs I'd guess.[/i]

Yer right.

Most will struggle to get from GT to the start of S1 in under an hour (it's about 9 miles and 1500ft), and then add at least another hour to get from Golfie to the Mast (another 7 miles and 1500ft).

I reckon times will be tight for a lot of folk.

And, Si seems to be after 5 stages with next-to-no transitions - otherwise known as DH...

Doubt I'll make it now. Crashed pretty hard at the very end of Stage 4 and thought I'd broke my thumb. One X-Ray later, no breakages, but very sprained and very fat looking. ****. Very difficult to change gears not to mention frickin' painful. Damn and blast it all.

Aaaaaaand here's the rain

Vast amount of rain is currently falling on Inners..

Just packing the shorty in case this keeps up.....

Forecast all night. Thunder and Lightning makes the trails frightening.

Gallileo!

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Just packing the shorty in case this keeps up.....

He did a tyre chat! Get him!

Obviously I meant shortbread, packs a high calorie punch in a small package, ideal pick me up when it's cold and wet without taking much space in the camelback. What did you think I meant?

Well, that was quite the epic!

Truly a great weekend of racing and a topped off by bagging a decent result.

Great day, turned into a bigger one than expected having been told the time limit was pretty relaxed we only made it back with 10 minutes to spare. I'm guessing quite a few failed to make it as we passed quite a lot who started 10 minutes in front of us.
As for my result, the less said the better. Pretty miffed as I've felt really good on the bike all week but just wasn't getting into the groove until late in the day today. Overnight rain didn't help, and ironically having started a no tyre chat allowed thread I really should have bothered to swap the DHF out for a shorty this morning. Thoroughly enjoyable regardless.

I was slow but that's as expected, had a nice clean race though... I like being up the back, I got to pass a stack of people and feel like a boss 😆 Offset by riding community service like an absolute fanny and not really getting my pedal on for deliverance.

I think possibly we should introduce a rule, no trails with "wolf" in the title I still quite enjoyed it tbh but I can see why others were fed up with it.

Great day out... Was just about ill by the end, not so much tired but baked. I've been generally a bit bummed on racing this year so that was good medicine.

I enjoyed the Wolf but buoyed with confidence tried the ride CS too fast and fell off three times, proper sprinting at trees jobs. S3 was good, One silly tired off near the end and then 2 stupid tired offs on a great S4. I need to get out of this habit I'm growing.

Had a good day , had an early start and stage 1 was a tester after all the rain ,2 had held up well and that climb , blimey Charlie it just went on and on . Was pretty done in after 3 and the climb out had me walking and just managed to hold on for 4 . I was pretty much spot on with the times on my sticker but had to push harder than I would of liked but that's all part of the challange . not much waiting at stages which was good . All in all a top day out

Where are the results posted?

Keep an eye on the Tweedlove FB page, they're not up yet.

Everyone should harrass MC into doing it faster, he likes that.

C'mon MC, stop reading this drivel and DO IT

Is the new wolf all muddy now then? I haven't ridden it for a few weeks but it was a bit muddy in places earlier in the so called summer.

I seem to remember quite a lot of mud, although the section after the traverse wasn't that muddy until lower down.

it was a bit muddy in places

If you like sarcasm, then you'll love this.

It was running brilliantly though.

I don't think anyone minds mud itself, but the upper section was so sticky and slow, with its constant wee gradient reversals and its traverse etc, it was just hard work getting anywhere- once it got some gravity on it was great

(though I'll admit, I was blowing out my arse after putting in a lot of effort up top, and frankly a bit pissed off, by that point, so I didn't get as much out othe better parts as I should have- some dude that I'd passed in the slog, repassed me in the good bit and that woke me up or I might have just trundled down).

Some pics on roots and rain

Phew, what a day! Hard as, loved all the stages even with the mud!

If anyone lost a multi tool at the top of stage one, let me know, found one. Send me a PM with the make and type and I'll try and get it back to you.

Lack of online results has nothing to do with me!

Results were emailed earlier, so they'll get uploaded once the Tweedlove team get around to it.

That was a Fantastic weekend of riding!! Stage 1 was a complete write off for me and I was pretty unhappy at the bottom, but once that was out the way I couldn't have enjoyed myself more. Exactly how I made it down the last descent on stage without a huge off will remain a complete mystery to me!!

Absolutely loved that yesterday, rear wheel got a bit clogged up top half of stage 1, tried to keep wheels turning but it was hard but after the wee traverse I got into a good flow by trying to stay off the pussy levers more to the bottom, stage 2 wasnt too bad apart from the big wide line on community that went nowhere really that had been cut which for some reason I took despite never having done before (probably cos it was never there)stage 3 which I thought would have been my best stage, blasted down hush hush, turned to head over to deliverance, bike wiped out, caught my foot and twisted my ankle, headed down deliverance seated and in a lot of pain, hobbled over to stage 4 and finished, all in all an excellent event once again 😀

Results & photos up on R&R
https://www.rootsandrain.com/race3114/2015-aug-23-tweedlove-king-and-queen-of-the-hill-glentress/

pussy levers

😆

stage 1 was horrific for me, my front wheel totally jammed. when i tried to ride through it it sent me OTB, i took the wheel off to clear the mud but it happened again, and again. then when i was rolling my head was so all over the place i generally rode like a total spaz. gave up in the end and walked down. took 20mins!

from then on i knew my race was over so just tried to relax and enjoy the day. still managed to crash every stage, but it was good get a past a few riders on course and was wasnt unhappy with my times on the other 3.

obviously rode everything 10 times better on Saturday but it was a cracking weekend. Ard Rock seems so easy in comparison now!

was good to see Greg Callahan, Chris Ball & co on track - their times were mind blowing.

I had a terrible time on the Golfie stages so my results were mince. However happy to say that Prophet2 jnr was the youngest racer on the day and he managed to come in the top third overall. He actually would have placed in the top 30 of senior men and he is still 15.

I have a lot to live up to in 2016 KQOTH!

Ski78 - a mate lost a big blue multi tool, will grab the details from him. He didn't do his lack up after helping Thom Mitchell (5th) put his crank back on!

Found!