[Closed] It had to happen - Strava litigation

i find that not enough people use strava tbh most people who take their sport quite seriously use Garmin and its own tools to track and share rather than strava as it just isnt as good as garmin when it comes to the whole GPS set-up, thats my view.

But its just a fun tool to have fun with, and taking it this seriously is a little sad, given the routes people post most of the time are rather silly/stupid...i saw a route today where someone is clearly breaking the law ie speedlimits getting a certain time along a school road which is to say the least stupid.

[i]Are you banging on with that line again?[/i]

What would you say, Mr Holmes?

FFS. Seriously?

I didn't think it was too bad an idea, there are no rules at all are there. It reminded me of this....
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Blimey, is that A proto Popemobile by Porsche?

druidh - Member

Are you banging on with that line again?

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Do me a shirt for the morning Al.

But you're retired?

He wants to look nice to meet your mum.

In the words of the GLC guns don't kill people rappers do. I couldn't see a case against Strava standing up for that reason but going after the person who set the segment in the first place is a different thing.

A willing party can not be injured is the approach taken because you as a participant thought to have know the risks. I'm not sure that's going to stand as really you dont know the risks because you don't know whats gone through the head of the person setting it. The answer is probably a degree of self policing regarding users being more willing to pull segments. Which would be a good way of proving riders can act responsibly. Unfortunately the consequences of things going badly could start to impact on events - even fundraising ones - that use rights of way. Although route sharing has been around for a while presence and awareness are two different things.

[quote[i]]Is the Strava concept flawed? Possibly. In theory it doesn't do anything that a time trial doesn't do
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Except there's a shed load of paperwork to fill out before anyone goes tanking off, risk assessment, police reports, marshals etc.

Out of interest. How many people have been killed in TTs during the last couple of years in this counrty. How many people have been killed while doing a strava segment?

Since I moved out to Tas Strava has been great. I have a lot of time during the week to ride and it helps me motivate and push myself.
Some of the challenges have really helped my fitness and the segments allow me to see how I'm doing.

There are a lot of races out here but mostly XC which TBH really doesn't float my boat. There are some great trail sections that I enjoy riding that I am "measuring" myself on. Great on a solo ride to give you something to push on for.

If I do want to race I will ride a couple of the loops see how my times stack up (it's heavily used over here) and see which category to enter, and give me some idea how to pace a lap.

The guys calling Strava or riding through red lights are the same ones who have always done it.

As for this...

It's really taken seriously now isn't it. I rode with some guys going for Strava times today. They had a driver pacing them. This was on the A41 near Aston Clinton.

What if they were training for something else and using strava? If I had a race coming up I'd like to try being paced along the route to see what I could do at top pace.

Does Strava take that into account? i.e paced, group, wind direction, approach speed, standing start.

Out of interest. How many people have been killed in TTs during the last couple of years in this counrty. How many people have been killed while doing a strava segment?

Don't know the answer, but we kinda know which has killed more. That's why I never race TTs.

No if your that worried then your the kid who always had an excuse for not winning

oldgit - Member
FFS. Seriously?
I didn't think it was too bad an idea, there are no rules at all are there. It reminded me of this....

I can't wait to take a m/cyle through Winterfolds personal best and claim I was on a Bandit. (with slicks of course don't want to totally destroy him)

Daft US lawsuit shocker ..

I rode with some guys going for Strava times today. They had a driver pacing them. This was on the A41 near Aston Clinton.

Howling mad ) Probably the most dangerous road I know of in this area, not a road anyone in their right mind should cycle on, apart from crazy testers and now strava chasers. Ride safe...

I was out last night on the road bike and had a following wind on one of the sections near me. I was going well, definite personal best, when I had to stop for a red light at a pedestrian crossing. While I did stop I can see why some (stupid) people might get carried away and do things they might not otherwise do. Still not Strava's fault though.

I still got my PB on the section but lost about 15 seconds which had the effect of putting me 24th (out of 86). Without the red light (which is rarely used) I'd have been close to a top 10.

Also looking at my GPS trace in detail I can see that I was beyond the 30mph limit for some of the section - which is all within a 30mph limit . Given my average for the section as a whole was only 22.6mph I expect the guy who did the fastest time (29.1mph) must have exceeded the speed limit by a lot more and for a lot more of the time.

'Strava Saddo's'

Compared to STW boring saddo's?

[i]it's actually the sportive's and mtb "challenges" that are the issue real racers race in real races, Strava is for those who dare not line upon the start line[/i]

You don't mean all the pro racers on there do you?

I like strava because it tells me in the last three months i've taken 8 minutes /20% out of my time up the Tavistock to Princetown climb.

I'm still in 33rd place though...

edit: dammit. 35th today...

like strava because it tells me in the last three months i've taken 8 minutes /20% out of my time up the Tavistock to Princetown climb.

which any GPS mobile app would tell you without the need for the internet.

I'm still in 33rd place though...

edit: dammit. 35th today...

which is the irrelevant/anonymous bit.

[i]which any GPS mobile app would tell you without the need for the interne[/i]

Segments are pretty much unique to strava aren't they? how do you record your whole ride on another gps and then break it down into individual bits to see how you did nopt only this time but all the other times you've ridden them?

which is the irrelevant/anonymous bit.

To you not to Jam Bo

which any GPS mobile app would tell you without the need for the internet.

Yes you could spend ages setting up waypoints at the start and end of every climb, or you could just use strava and have it all done for you.

Got a new T&C email from Strava this morning. Along with the usual long full document they had a list of 'highlights' at the top for the hard of concentrating. One is very clearly -

"No warranties are made by Strava and Strava is not liable for your activities connected with the site"

Not sure if that holds water, but they're obviously aware of the mentalist potential of the site.

slainte ➡ rob

which is the irrelevant/anonymous bit.

no one is making you use it?

It should just be used for climbs not descents? That would be easy for the boffins at Strava central to implement.

It's just gotta be a matter of god damn common sense surely. If you ride outside your abilities you'll get hurt, and that's no ones bloody fault but your own. It certainly isn't anyone else's when I crash 'cause I've ridden like a tit.

Just for climbs? Thats just for schlek's.

Should there be a test before you can download it?

Maybe one before you are allowed the internet, what about children or old people.

What about our Pensions!!!

It should just be used for climbs not descents? That would be easy for the boffins at Strava central to implement.

Yes, lets make everything so morons can't hurt themselves. It's about personal responsibility, Strava is fine as it is.