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[Closed] Is Rock and Roll Extreme any good in the muck?

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I've just cleaned and dried my chain and was considering trying Rock and Roll lube again.

What are people's experiences of it for winter use? And how long do you give it between applications? Do you clean chain completely each time?

Thanks!


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 3:12 pm
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i owned a bottle once.

hated it.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 3:17 pm
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I used to use it for a short while.

Its perfectly good as a chain lube, but doesn't really last much longer in these winter conditions than any other lube, but is amongst one of the most expensive. This is made worse that you are supposed to use quite alot of it per application.

Pound for pound, finish line wet lube is hard to beat for winter conditions; or a nice thick transmission oil.

Its muckier than R'n'R though.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 3:24 pm
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I use it all year round - great stuff IMO

In really crappy conditions - eg this weekend in the Peaks - it lasts around 4-5hrs before the chain starts getting a bit noisy

Never clean the chain as such - it stays clean by using R 'n' R

after every ride .....
Wash bike
Wipe chain to dry it a bit
Apply R 'n' R & spin pedals around for 20 secs or so
Wipe of as much as possible
job done

Do as it says on the bottle & it's great - do your own thing with it & it wont work


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 3:24 pm
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R&R is great in the summer but pish in the mud and gloop, the Muc Off chain lube is very good in shitty conditions.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 3:39 pm
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I like it, but I got given the bottle gratis.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 3:44 pm
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i have always rated it as best lube. use it on my bikes since i first got it years ago


 
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I bought a bottle - still have half of it left - cos I don't use it any more. I found it useless

Motorcycle chain wax for the win ( the melt on the stove stuff). A year since I started using it and chain life is many times greater - dunno by how much 'cos I haven't worn out a chain since instead of a chain every 500 - 1000 miles


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:10 pm
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its really rather quite crap


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:17 pm
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Try squirt, much much better, and no solvents


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:19 pm
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I've used the melt on a stove stuff that TJ's talking about for about 6months now.

Its fine in dry and intermediate conditions, infact, I think I lubed my chain once a month in summer, its that good, but in proper wet mud It doesn't last more than 4-5 hours - which is every ride for me. Given the faff of melting and hanging and waiting for it too cool, I'm not bothering with it any more in the proper winter. Fine for the other three seasons I though.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:32 pm
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Cheers all, classic STW split decision there.

I already have the lube (which I got half price), but was wanting I find out if it was particularly poor in wet and mud at all.

It sounds like it's not, but may be a complete waste of time or the best lube on the market anyway.

I'll give it a blast again. Cheers all.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:33 pm
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motorbike wax affects shifting

rock and roll for the win


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:39 pm
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Gotta agree with jedi here.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:40 pm
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Not IME jedi.

Definitely not on the SS.
๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:43 pm
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So it's either brilliant or sh*te.

Gotta love STW ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:47 pm
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Not IME jedi Have you ever used the melt on stuff jedi / ADH ?- lovely lubed chain the whole time - far better shifting. I have been using this on 4 bikes for a year and no shifting issues until it eventually comes out off the chain - the commuters only needed lubing every 300 -500 miles

My experience is not quite the same as Science officers - the wax gets scraped off the outside of the chain in the mud but remains in the bushes where it is most needed. You can tell 'cos if you run your finger along a seemingly dry chain you get two lines of grease on your finger where it comes out from between the rollers and the side plates I am lubing even in winter every hundred miles or so on the MTBs.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:50 pm
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The reverse is true for me TJ.

I still have wax on the outside, but its been washed/ground out of the rollers so that they rattle they're so dry.

I expect its differing geological substrate and riding patterns that make the difference.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 4:53 pm
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my mate used to run a motorcross shop so we tried laods.
great on ss/bmx but shite for shifting


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 5:17 pm
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Used R and R for a couple of years, no complaints here.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 5:22 pm
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Interesting science officer.

Jedi - simply not IME Shifting is fine. 4 bikes run with it for a year and the shifting is better as you have a better lubed chain for more of the time

Perhaps its a different product to what you used. Putoline chain wax

Shows how hard it is to get a definitive answer for anything :-). I will not go back to conventional lube


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 5:25 pm
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thats why cycling is so diverse and interesting. or we'd all be riding the same bikes!

choice my friends ,rules


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 5:33 pm
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Finish line wet if i can't be arsed washing every ride, finish line dry teflon if i can.


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 5:52 pm
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Purple Extreme


 
Posted : 07/12/2009 11:13 pm