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Five spot ett was 24.2inches. Trance us 24.5
Five spot reach was 42.24cm, trance is 43.9cm.Xl five spot fitted perfect with a 55mm stem and layback post which is why I went for a large trance as the size is almost the same if not slightly bigger.
An xl trance would be far to big ??
You have answered you own question then. Unless........you have decided you like a bigger bike. In which case the trance could be too small. Or too big, if the five spot was perfect.
Maybe you just [i]thought[/i] the five spot was the right size, but actually it was too small and the giant is the perfect fit, but you haven't realised it yet?
Or it could be that Giants sizing is wrong on the website, I've heard sometimes they have different sizing depending on which country. The American Trance could be bigger. I'd check the U.K website.
mine is only a 26er but I'm 6'1" and a bit and ride a large trance and it fits fine so i'm going for short stem and crap photos
Crack where ?
No.. sorry its a dog hair on my screen 😆
my twopenneth.
yes it is too small
why did you not buy the 29'' version
But surely if giant say it's suitable from 6 foot to 6 foot4 then it's the right size ???
Or am I missing something?
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without being rude, you like me, look like a big bloke.
most bikes are gonna look small when we are on them. but looking small and being comfy are very differant.
comfort is the most important thing. aesthetics come at the bottom of the importance list.
^ What Ton said. I'm failing to see how anyone on here can genuinely judge whether the size of a bike is wrong for you from looking at a photo of you on it! 😕
renton - Member
But surely if giant say it's suitable from 6 foot to 6 foot4 then it's the right size ???Or am I missing something?
They're guidelines, not rules. The only way you could be certain would be to try other sizes
I think the reach is far too short on that bike. I think that of the Trance in general rather than with you sitting on it. It's got a real sit up and beg type riding position.
A mate and I were trying them out for size in Paul's Cycles. We both ended up having to get a size so big that our nuts were resting on the top tube! It's just a really short bike.
You could try lowering the stem, but I think that would only give you a few extra mm's.
You also look taller than 183cm, but that could just be the photo. More photos would help, or even better a video!
I don't understand it to be honest as it has a longer top tube and more reach than my previous bike which felt perfect.
Blimey. You've not done much formal PT for a while have you?
It's too small. Get a bigger bike.
It's got 15mm more reach and no layback seatpost, so that's going to be shorter. If you put a layback on that you'll have so much weight so far up and back you'll wheelie everywhere.
I'm on a sqn so we don't get much time for pt.
It has got a layback post on it a d the seat is almost all the way back it never once feels to light at the front.
Chubby lineys always use that excuse.
I'd not call that a layback post - just not an inline clamp on it.
The bike is way too short for you and I'd guess you are right on the limit of being too tall for it.
Tootall I'm not any sort of liney!!!
I'm an Armourer. I believe you are a blanket stacker aren't you.
I am 6 foot
If the post isn't a layback and also the clamp isn't inline what is it then??
The bike is suitable for some one 6 foot to 6 foot 4. How am I too big for it.
I don't understand it to be honest as it has a longer top tube and more reach than my previous bike which felt perfect.
Five spot ett was 24.2inches. Trance us 24.5
Five spot reach was 42.24cm, trance is 43.9cm.
New bike has 17mm longer reach and ETT is only 7mm difference. So assuming they're both measured the same way that 10mm diff between the 2 means the new bike has a steeper seat angle by just under a degree - see my earlier post about why that may matter.
The sag at the rear can make more difference to the SA than that so maybe that's adding to the seat angle, or it could be making it the same, or less.. if it's sagging more it'll be making the reach shorter than stated. Reach and stack on a FS bike gets a bit vague as soon as the ends of the bike don't sag equally.
tbh, the measurements are so close and seat angle / ETT on the giant's messed up by the frame design anyway so get set up based on balance and forget the numbers. If you can't get comfy / balanced, the bikes's wrong.
How am I too big for it.
Irrelevant.
Clearly you feel too big for it because you wouldn't have asked. You do look too big for it but I would look at fitting a longer stem and possibly a proper layback post before you sell it.
The bike is suitable for some one 6 foot to 6 foot 4.How am I too big for it.
It fits perfect.
Just ride the ****er.
Does that help.
Jameso would fitting a longer travel fork to raise the front and slacken off the seat angle help at all do you think ?
EDIT: The head angle is 2 degrees slacker on the trance too.
Sell it and buy a bike that fits you, having tried it first, rather than spaff a load of money on a bike that doesn't that you got for a cheap price...to still find that is wrong for you.
Maybe test ride a few. Find one that works for your build and then get that
But surely it should fit that's the point I'm trying to get across.
Not really chap, bike size guides arw just that, based on a average joe that is sort of scaled up and down and allows for some variation with seat post and stem length etc... I can make a medium or a large fit me comfortably and its totally dependant upon bike manufacturer and even the particular model. Thats why its better if you can to get a ride on one first. There is no " should fit" with bikes it is "do" or "do not" * yoda mode engaged*
Ffs I can't change my bike again. The wife is threatening divorce if I even mention it.
Ffs I can't change my bike again. The wife is threatening divorce if I even mention it.
Put a sensible stem on it and ride it then
Get something nice like a jones space frame with one gear and no faffy suspension to go wrong 😀 that reallt can be made to fit midgets and giants.....or a stooge
Stuff of dreams for me tazzymtb
I love the regular Renton posts it makes me feel much better about my serial bike swapping exploits !
Ha rub it in why don't you.
I should of bought that camber from you.
A stooge would work nicely renton and they are top value.Got a bike you can demo if you want, with a range of stems and seatposts
But is it more chuck able and a bit of a play bike? If so being small is an advantage according to t'interweb innit
Let me stick the 70mm stem back on and tAke some better photos tomorrow.
Its not about the photo, its about how it feels to you. It may look tiny/massive, if if it fits and its comfortable and doesn't hinder the ride you're sorted. Get the feeling you know what the answer is, but that you a really some bloke of the web will tell its ok to keep the inner doubts quiet for another week or so?
It ride fine last week. I really enjoyed the ride I had and started to like it.
I don't like it with a 50mm stem so the 70mm will be going back on.
I don't think it's necessarily too small. Us 6ft+ guys always look ungainly on a mountain bike I find.
To add fuel to the fire, you complain of lower quad pain which can be a symptom of sitting too far back when pedalling. As some have suggested, it could be fitting too short a stem is pushing you back in the saddle.
Anyone over 6 ft should only be allowed to ride 29 ers to avoid looking silly
But pop...all 29ers look silly! I mean they were ridden by beardy niche whores, then became mainstream and have since been replaced by 27.5 gnarpoons...god you are like...soooo behind the times
.all 29ers look silly
you bastard........... 😥
But ya loves me ton, now give me a big man cuddle 😀
Hi Renton,
Your bike is the right size for you. But it's a 150mm travel bike; they're meant to be ridden stood up and down a trail. The sizing/geometry reflects this
If you want a bike you can stretch out on, then get an XC 29er thats designed to for that,.
About the longer fork q, it may help but only if more saddle set back from the bb helps you feel comfy on the bike. Dtf's right, could just be the bike isn't the fit you expected but it'll be good once used to it.
I'm another 183cm guy, and my TR is a fair bit shorter in reach than yours as well as it's predecessor, but now I'm used to it I love it and have done my longest rides yet aboard it. That seatpost extension looks similar to mine (32" inseam myself, see my link for extension), so I'll go against the grain and suggest you get out on it for some time and get used to it !
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I'm just under 6'5" and had a large trance, it was a bit short for sure, I now have a large Yeti AsR5, and that is also a bit small. I'm now getting an XL 29er. I look like I'm on a bmx on a 26er
does this look small on me?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23772898@N07/5069118250/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23772898@N07/3301776826/
Renton = the next generation Hora?
Davidtaylforth has a point, the Trance is a medium/long travel trail/AM bike and should be ridden for purpose stood up.
I believe you commute on the bike don't you Renton?....I reckon that is skewing your view on things, I reckon out on the trail that bike fits you fine when stood up and shifting weight around.
As someone else said, if you want a comfortable commuter bike maybe consider a large or XL 29er short travel machine.
I ride a 16 inch hardtail that has me constantly shifting my bum to the rear of the saddle and draping my wrists over the bars for more room on flat sections of trail, on that basis its way too small....but when things get interesting and I find some singletrack, jumps, drops, roots etc I stand up and centre myself in the middle of the bike and it feels perfect....and really that's all that matters, I can live with feeling cramped on fire road climbs for a perfect fit when the trails demand I ride it properly.