I learned a while ago to put my weight onto the pedal at the opposite side of a dog coming at me and give it a proper boot in the mush.
Has any else had to kick an out of control mutt and is it wrong to do so.
I feel that it's perfectly fair and that people who say there's no need for that when their dog is showing it's teeth and coming at you, are simply mad!
1/10. Stick to bearings.
Police dog?
You've never had a dog try and bite you?
No, they seem to sense my good character.
was it dressed as an ostrich?
you are so hard. i wish i was actually you.
kicking dogs sucks balls.
Try shouting 'Ungowa' at it..............
Me and my friends can't hunt Foxes anymore so we now bait cyclists with Staffs; much more fun and we are actually pay car tax to use our roads.
It might have been a small ostrich dressed as a dog but definately not a dog dressed like an ostrich.
Unless it was a midget dog dressed like an ostrich dressed like a dog.
kicking dogs [s]sucks[/s] balls.
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Markd- last time a dog tried to bite me I sucked it's balls and it became my best friend 😀
markd
being bitten and tetanus or the jab to avoid it suck more.
Anything having a go at me, I'm having a go at.
I like cats and dogs as long as they behave themselves.
However I reserve the right to kick any creature that tries to bite me, in it's teeth.
I've had a couple of dogs get abit aggresive whilst on my bike.
Trouble is i own a dog and therefore know that it's a product of its environment. It's the owner i want to kick in the teeth not the dog.
They bite you IN the teeth!
You retard.
However I reserve the right to kick any creature that tries to bite me in the teeth.
so he went for your face then?
if you did that to my dog because it ran towards you I'd kick you in the jaw a lot harder.
However I reserve the right to kick any creature that tries to bite me in the teeth.
It may be trying to kiss you
"Unless it was a midget dog dressed like an ostrich dressed like a dog. "
cool! I'll never look at dogs the same again. Could even little yappy dogs have a smaller dog dressed as an ostrich inside them? That's probably why they yap right? the little dogs. Can't contain all the other animals.
+1 Jimmy
If you kicked one of my pups in the teeth you'd be losing a few of your own......
WTF is going on now? Jimmy is kissing Pit Bulls out on his bike with kaesae watching while Jimmy simultaneously pokes peoples eyes out snapping jaws off with Ostriches running about.
As I said coming towards with teeth bared, if your dog comes towards me with hackles raised and tries to bite me and I kick it in the mush and you then have a go. You will simply be in need of an attitude adjustment as well and get cranked with me bike!
If your dog comes toward me and it's tail is wagging and it looks friendly it will simply get smiled at and probably patted.
Right response for the circumstances.
Back to the questions, is it OK to defend yourself whilst on a bike when a dog tries to bite you by kicking it in the teeth?
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No, you let it rip you to shreds
'Durr if you kicked my dog I'd kick you blah blah blah...'
Yeah right. How hard you are... 🙄
You've got every right to kick a dog that is attacking you, or is clearly about to attack you. It's called self defence. I don't care if the dog is 'only playing'. I'm not taking any chances. Keep your mutt away from me, on a lead, and it won't risk getting a boot in it's chops. Simples.
I've kicked a few dogs that've had a go at me whilst cycling, it's just part of cycling IMO. Although next time I'll hand the dog a printout of this thread to peruse, and forward the owner to TJ for a more detailed discussion.
Back to the questions, is it OK to defend yourself whilst on a bike when a dog tries to bite you by kicking it in the teeth?
Yeah it's fine if the dog is obviously going to bite you then it needs to learn not to attack cyclists, I've only had it happen once. Been chased by dogs a few times but most are just yappy stupid things that want to play. If it's showing it's teeth and is viscious then feel free to stamp on the bastards head, should have a muzzle on anyway. Oh and feel free to point out the error of the owners ways... a swift kick in the teeth might help there too.
BTW I like friendly dogs, but as far as I'm concerned keasae did the right thing. Why is everyone giving him a hard time its not like he's drowning puppy's the mutt attacked him FFS!
you'd better be pretty dam sure its going to bite you if you're going to kick someone's dog in the mush, is all i'm saying.
I rode into an unleashed dog on Ben Lomond 2 weeks ago. It sould've been on a lead, but I think me crashing into it when it moved taught it a lesson.
mr_mills
Stop any more funny photo's and I might actually look forward to bumping into you.
What is that Fu King thing? is that an ostrich from an inside mouth view?
First a pig now that thing?
In answer to your question
Yes
Might not be wise
But
Yes
I am with jimmy on this i think, it's the owner at fault everytime.
I would go at you with MENERGY EXTREME if i had a dog and you booted it.
Kick the ****in thing. I love dogs, but you can tell very easily if they are going to be agressive. If they are then you have to do whatever is needed to defend yourself. Most dogs are just excited though and want to play, for those dogs I just encourage them to chase/follow me, must to the consternation of the idiot owner.
What the F'ck is that?
That, young sir, is a dog disguised as an ostrich.
The dog was out of control and baring it's teeth!
My dog has chased people in the past and most people freeze up. Some people kick out. Whatever... it's my job as an owner to keep my dog under control.
So the dog ran at you bareing its teeth, a lot of humans do this its called smiling, you may well have now alienated the dog towards male adults, it may now bite as oposed to being freindly.
I've been bitten by a dog on my bike and from now on i'll be ready to kick the next one that comes close and attempts to bite.
if you did that to my dog because it ran towards you I'd kick you in the jaw a lot harder.
You wouldn't have the chance. I'd boot the dog so that it flew towards you, jaw first, straight in your neck. Bosh- jugular gone.
Then I'd laugh.
I'd kick a mongrel that was trying to nick my bike.
The thing to watch out for is the hackles along the shoulders and upper back. If it's teeth are bared and it's hackles are up it's Fu King time to kick it!
If it persists put the bike in between you and it, as a last resort hit it with your whole bike, crank it.
In 13 years of riding or 11 years if you take away the last 2 i've had quite a few dogs try and bite me. None have been succesful, a lot of dogs wonder up in a friendly way tail waging open mouthed. Had a pup the other day there the size of an average lab run up to me. It wasn't a threat and a lovely big dog.
But a lot of dogs are simply a pain and a lot of owners think it's funny and laugh when they have a go at you!
Best to be prepared and if it comes down to it, better it gets kicked or stomped if needs be, than you get munched!
Did the dog have standard hinged jaw bones, or a special that that used bearings? maybe the the dogs special jaw used bearing supplied by kaeasae and the dog liked how smooth and long lasting the bearings were, and the dog decided that, upon seeing kaesae riding his super bike with super bearings the dog would give kaesae's super leg a super chomp to show its appreciation.
Maybe if the dogs special jaw used lower quality japanese bearings it wouldnt have been so happy to attack.
[i]I've been bitten by a dog on my bike[/i]
What was the dog doing on your bike?
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Why do you lot pounce on Kasaeeaeae? There are far more assholes deserving of undue STW vehemence on here.
A quick squirt in the dogs face with some water from a bottle works wonders.They get such a shock i can keep pedaling and nothing gets hurt me or the dog
'Durr if you kicked my dog I'd kick you blah blah blah...'
I wouldn't need to. Only a fool would kick my boy ("the bear") 😀
Coincidentally, he chased after a biker today but of course he didn't bite him (well mannered, see). He just thought it was me!
If a dog bit me on or off the bike, he'd be getting some as would the owner afterwards.
Why do you lot pounce on Kasaeeaeae?
Cowardly bullies, Kev. Easy to bully someone from behind the safety of a keyboard.
Heh! Remember when I bit Stupid Dog when she gave me a little nip? Look on here face; priceless! She weren't expecting that one! 😆
I suppose it's all about 'reasonable force'. If someone attacks you it's ok to use reasonable force to protect yourself but if you rip their head off and s**t down their neck then the authorities aren't going to be too impressed. I think this rule probably applies to getting attacked by dogs too. I've certainly raised a foot in my time when cycling. Are people seriously saying they would rather loose a leg than give a dog a small kick?
I once had a lucky escape when I was chased by a Collie. It decided to bite my back tyre as I desperately cyled away. I turned around to see a yelping dog sailing through the air. Luckily the dog wasn't badly injured.
Cycling away quickly is more likely to end badly I think. If it happened again I would try to slow down and face the attacker with the boot ready if needed.
Talkemada - Member
if you did that to my dog because it ran towards you I'd kick you in the jaw a lot harder.
You wouldn't have the chance. I'd boot the dog so that it flew towards you, jaw first, straight in your neck. Bosh- jugular gone.Then I'd laugh.
Are you and Kaesae the same person?
Talkemadoda is nae scottish c**t.
He's just a c**t!
We are legion. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
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jog on
Dogs biting = ostrich = bjorn bjorg.
Good thread!
Violence and intimidation are part of dogs' vocabulary unfortunately. If it's trying to attack you then fight back - it'll understand.
Something that( many) dog owners just dont seem to understand is that their lovable family pet can be aggresive or can even appear very threatening to non dog loving members of the public.
Really, its up to you to keep your dog under control in public, and I'm sorry to say, any dog that gets as far as actually biting someone in the street doesnt deserve a kick in the teeth, it should be humanely put down.
I get bitten by dogs regularly in the course of my job, and if I had a pound for everytime some rosy-spectacled owner said 'he wouldnie hurt a fly, he's just bein' friendly' before biting, well, I'd have given up working years ago.
edit; jimmy, Are you Australian?, Quite quick on a bike? is your real first name Cadel, by any chance? 🙂
Luckily no but if the dog was going for me either pedal warp speed or stand between bike and doggie.
If the dog is not backing off and is completely nuts with no owner in site...then lift bike, allow dog to get closer and bring down on its bloody head as a last resort.
If the dog looks nuts and is way ahead just turn bike around and make sure its not chasing you. Take the longer route home and avoid trouble in the first place.
any proper manly man would PUNCH the dog out anyway.
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I get bitten by dogs regularly in the course of my job,
That's made my night. Thanks.
Ooh! Would you know where a Makita Compact 18V Li-Ion Hammer Drill/Driver could be found, Kevevs?
And how much it is?
While its important not to be too reliant on equipment, nevertheless, I am likin' your style, Kevevs
Backhander, why exactly?
This geezers a full on prick and that's all there is too it stop posting
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Looks the dog's bollocks, I have to say.
You have the right to self defence using reasonable force. A kick would be appropriate.
Pawsy-bear, thats against humans, you have the right simply not to be bothered by nuisance dogs, and thats the owners responsibility.
I like dogs and wouldn't want to hurt one. That said I like my legs more than I like dogs so legs would win out and dog would get one in the face.
I don't like the thought of hurting an animal but conversely I'll happily eat many of them. Which is odd.
"Ringo - Member
This geezers a full on prick and that's all there is too it stop posting "
There's not much you can do is there? In that way, it reflects real life! IMO, Kasaeeaeaeee has re-enlivened this place. Given it a poke up the arse. Good. I don't care if his bearings are shit or not. Remember folks, there are people out there different to you. yikes.
'Different', you say....? 😯
I follow the spirit of what Kaesae is saying. AFAIAA, because dogs can be trained (whilst cats cannot) the owner of the dog is liable for anything that the dog may do. When dogs go for me I kick out at them and tell the owner that they should have their animal under control and that if it happens again I will report it to the Police. One dog bit my boot so hard last week that it hurt my toes. I told the owner that next time it happenned I'd want it put down. It was said for effect- and it had the effect- she was rather shaken up. I can't stand the attitude 'oh he's only playing' or 'he's really friendly'. Hackles up, teeth bared is not friendly at all, it's nasty and aggressive. And if a dog gets that way it should be properly controlled.
I own a dog. As a pup if she became agressive towards people she got a telling off. She is great now.
Quite, while kaesae could afford to think a bit more before posting , his posts seem to irritate me less than some others, for instance, backhanders...
his posts seem to irritate me less than some others, for instance, backhanders...
That's made my night. Thanks.
And the reason is that I think you're a complete tool.
Oh and I also hold kaesaes opinions in far higher regard than yours.
i stopped to let a dog walker past on wednesday. the dog snarled at me as it went passed the owner just laughed. i rode off and the dog came after me heckles up, teeth out! i was watching the dog while trying to stop so i could get the bike between me and coujo. front wheel washed out and dumps me on my arse... (funny now)
i'm afraid to say i lost it! dog ran back to owner with me after the pair of them screaming. you ****ing **** keep
your ****ing **** of a dog on a ****ing lead if you can't control it ****. i'm glad the guy was a fare way off, and grabbed his dog and walked away, before i was half way there and the mist cleared.
i don't know why it got to me this bad, it's not like it's the first time! embarrassed with myself...
fwiw, i've always been a dog owner. to many people have dogs without having a clue on how to socialize and train them. if your dog doesn't come back when you call it (you suck at being a dog owner) keep it on a lead!
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jordie - Member
A quick squirt in the dogs face with some water from a bottle works wonders.They get such a shock i can keep pedaling and nothing gets hurt me or the dog
a very good tip!
pastcaring
A great tip if you carry a bottle of water everywhere you go. I reckon by the time you get the water out you'll be just in time for the dog to wash the chunk of your ass it has, down with the water.
I think it might work, but I would rather not have to pull my bottle of water out every time I see a dog that I think could go psycho. Unless you're talking about a holstered bottle of water and a quick draw technique.
If my dog tried to bite you I'd happily let you kick it in the gob. Got to learn. Whether him approaching with his gob open and tongue lolling in it's usual manner makes you think he's about to bite is another point.
Thing is, the sort of person who lets his/her dog close enough to bite, if the dog is likely to, is also the sort of person who'll have 'issues' with you doing it.
just kick the ****ing dog
Again, backhander, I'll ask you to justify that personal attack.
Exactly what have I said to arouse your malice?
Other than healthy political disagreement,and the odd joke, to my knowledge, I've never made any abusive or personal remarks to anyone on the forum, least of all you.
what gives?
how long does it take to grab a water bottle from a cage on your frame? a quick draw holster if you like 😀
if you feel threatened by a dog, then by all means kick it 'till it ****s off. or it eats you!
best defense is to stand behind your bike and stand your ground. not all dogs will back off when kicked!
mattbee
In my experience that can be the case, 9 out of 10 times it isn't. but on the odd occasion that it is and say you've just sorted the dog out with a swift kick and the owner now wants a piece as well.
Ass over the seat drop down stairs position front wheel into the knackers.
If they still don't get the message or happen to be armed. A seat and a seatpost can be a very handy tool for blocking all sorts of weapons, assuming your not a lazy ****er who never greases it and your clamp is quick release.
End of the day we bike where we want and riders find themselves in all sorts of situations. I want to go about my business anyone trying to stop me needs to know I will do what ever the situation requires.
Dog owners need to wake up to the fact that most bikers are fit and on the ball, some are timid and will take crap but others are more inclined to have a go.
If I'm out biking and I see a dog attacking another biker I will simply ram it with the bike or club it and have done on a few occasions.
Does that make me hard or unstable, maybe! to me it just makes me capable which is what we all have to be now adays.