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I agree with what's been said above. I now suspect (ironically) that the invisiframe will be covering some potential paint damage.😐
looking forward to the pictures
If it covering paint damage then it'll still be fine so long as you don't burst the invisiframe skin...
Bike still not delivered, its either not dark enough sunset is 9:26pm or he really has cocked it up.
I spent an age wondering why the tape I bought wouldn't stick, no matter what I tried.
What I hadn't tried was taking the backing tape off! D'oh!
And oh dear, that doesn't sound promising!
Is it wrong of me that I can’t wait to see how badly ****ed up it is?
.....and its a no show tonight.
To be fair it's only just gone dark up here
Still time yet.
I mean it's beyond reasonable but it's got to be dark to hide a bad job.
This seems like the point he should be there for the shop opening tomorrow and leave with the bike in hand regardless. Fool me once etc....
Slightly off topic...
If the potential for paint damage on removal of the tape is that high, why bother with the tape as you're going to get paint damage regardless of what you do...
@Conan257 it’s not an issue if you warm the tape first with a hair dryer, as it loosens the adhesive. But just pulling it straight off could potentially pull paint off with it if the paint is poorly applied.
That's really not good. If they are still having trouble with it, a call to say it wouldn't be ready to drop back tonight would be better than just not turning up.
Fitting Invisiframe isn't easy but it's not that hard either. No way should it need at least 3 goes and still not be able to get it right.
As above, I'd be heading into the shop first thing this morning and having a word and leaving with my bike (after giving it a thorough going over)
my guess. This is why shops have insurance...
my guess. This is why shops have insurance…
You're not going to claim on insurance for an £80 invisiframe kit though. That's coming out of the shops standard money rather than taking the hit on insurance.
It's a shame for them for sure and a shame for the guy who's bike it is....
Mrs Weeksy did my frame at the weekend, i bet many of you would send it back based upon this thread.
I just want it to protect the frame, which it does perfectly.
You’re not going to claim on insurance for an £80 invisiframe kit though.
No but if they've fubar'd the finish on the frame they would.
I'd be fuming, how long have they had your bike, during which time you've been unable to ride?
Collect the bike, demand a refund and some kind of gesture for the huge inconvenience caused.
who says they can't ride ? Who says it's an inconvenience ?
If I only had one bike then I wouldn't be able to ride. I only have one rideable bike. Going back and forth to the shop, multiple phone calls sounds like an inconvenience to me.
I'm not actually sure how much protection the invisiframe gives the frame, I've had it on a couple of bikes and it seems to have damaged easily - not from rocks flying around but leaned against a wall and it has then moved and scraped the wall - the invisiframe has cut and scored the frame.
I'm not saying it does nothing, but it does seem to offer some kind of protection but also appears to be damaged without much effort - so it isn't impregnable.
Does help to maintain the frame if the mud is gritty and needs washed off though...which is good news.
Unless they've changed a lot, Cannondale's haven't got the sort of paint jobs that can be peeled off with protective tape. I'm sure they're just trying to get it right. And it being a dark, glittery frame, and not having a STW legend working in the shop, maybe that ain't easy.
[i]I’m not actually sure how much protection the invisiframe gives the frame[/i]
I think the answer is: Enough.
I’m not actually sure how much protection the invisiframe gives the frame
It's only a thin plastic sheet - it's never going to be able to deal with any serious damage, but I figure it will prevent all the micro scratches you get on a painted bike that gets covered in mud and cleaned that just make it look tatty. A friend stripped the invisi off a c3 year old bike, which was looking pretty messed up, and said it was like new underneath. I figure you either get that benefit if you're selling (in which case you'll likely recoup the £90 it's cost you to do) or take it off at that point and have your own bike looking fresh again
I've had it on a bike for 5 years and every time I clean it I love my invisiframe, no wear marks, no scratching from my shorts or rubs from uplift straps. worth every penny.
Mrs Weeksy did my frame at the weekend, i bet many of you would send it back based upon this thread.
Hardly. There's a big difference between DIY and paying someone to do it.
There’s a big difference between DIY and paying someone to do it.
Problem is that the shop guys have to start somewhere. Maybe this is the first, second, etc.... they can't become experts without actually doing them after all.
That 'somewhere' shouldn't involve a full fee, then. And probably not customers' bikes if you've never done it before and want to train yourself up.
weeksy
Problem is that the shop guys have to start somewhere. Maybe this is the first, second, etc…. they can’t become experts without actually doing them after all.
They could probably practice with some normal heli-tape & a knackered frame before being let loose on a customer bike? Dunno how much different this stuff is to normal heli-tape (thicker?)
I suppose the youngsters no longer have to cover their text books in that sticky plastic stuff for school! That's where I learnt how to get a bubble free finish 🙂
I’m not actually sure how much protection the invisiframe gives the frame
It gives great protection from scratches and scuffs, but it won't stop a dent obvs.
Think of the sort of crash where your frame scrapes along a rock - it does a good job there.
There should also be a level of professionalism from the shop. If their employee hasn't done it before and has had a go and it looks like it did in those first pictures, it should never leave the shop and they should sort it out without the customer having to complain about it and then Invisiframe doing them a favour and sending them a replacement FOC.
Sometimes stuff just goes wrong, not just invisiframe fitting but anything. The guy doing it could have done in 100 times before without issue.
It's how the shop deal with it that is the important bit. Regular, honest communication is a good place to start.
Problem is that the shop guys have to start somewhere. Maybe this is the first, second, etc…. they can’t become experts without actually doing them after all.
Yep agree but you don't get competent ****ing up clients stuff.
You undertake offline training.
of course, but the shop owner buys the kits (at trade price!) and then they do their own bikes, that's the training! Same as how a vehicle wrapper starting out will do their own car/van to practise. You don't train up on a paying customers job!!Problem is that the shop guys have to start somewhere. Maybe this is the first, second, etc…. they can’t become experts without actually doing them after all.
I’ve done around 7 bikes now (all different)
It’s not difficult, takes about 3 hours, plenty of soapy water and cups of tea. Don’t think I’ve ever left a bubble in there.
Sold a couple of bikes on after a few years and they have been immaculate, definitely helps with resale.
Think of the sort of crash where your frame scrapes along a rock – it does a good job there.
That is just it...from my limited experience, it doesn't do a great job of that as the tape gets shredded due to the rock not being smooth and it removes tape and paintwork.
For stuff getting thrown up off the tyres or going through a tight space of vegetation then it seems to be brilliant, but for stuff that can do proper damage, it reduces the chances slightly.
Depends on how people see it acting...for me it stops the wee bits you get after washing a manky bike, it keeps the covered bits protected from that kind of stuff and if removed, it should reveal a nicely smooth finish as it was when first applied. What it doesn't stop is anything rough rubbing against the frame as it seems to remove the tape and paint. The invisiframe material is very thin (as pointed out above) so it is unlikely to offer serious protection from that kind of action, but it does help protect the frame from lighter interactions.
Anecdotally, listening to some people chatting about this (in real life, not online), it sounds as though a lot of them think it is a solid protection from everything but a large rock strike from a decent height
It's all anecdote I suppose, but I bounced my old Patriot off rocks at Fort William & Antur and was surprised that it came away with just a few catches in the film. I just picked the snagged bits off.
still no pics, its lunchtime. come on 🙂
Msged mate. Hes read it but not responded, I fear the worst now.
Is it a crack or a sticker ? No just badly fitted invisframe
Wasn't finished last night.😬
delivery at 6:30pm today. I may walk dog past his house at that time.
Planned to finish last night, needs an extra day to finish off when the whole job takes 3 hours?
Wasn’t finished last night.😬
delivery at 6:30pm today. I may walk dog past his house at that time.
Blimey and I thought my first go at Invisiframing took me a long time at 4 hours for the whole bike!
Maybe you can do an Instagram live or something whilst you are walking past?
Planned to finish last night, needs an extra day to finish off when the whole job takes 3 hours?
Very unlike a bike shop to miss a deadline, I know.
😉
He's waiting for it to come back from the spray painters and then needs to re-apply the film.
Wasn’t finished last night.😬
delivery at 6:30pm today. I may walk dog past his house at that time.
Probably be better walking past the shop at that time...... Owner profusely sweating.... Archie might be a big puggled after walking 15 miles.
It’s 19:30 (ish)...