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.Rosey, so why is your (hypothetical) trip to the garden centre more important than my mamiltastic sportive
Of course you can't argue that it's more important to get to the garden centre or to the top of your hill for duty free... but it is using the road for a different reason. In those cases it is a means to an end.... like 99% of car journeys.
Unlike us who ride on the road for pleasure and who like to have the longest ride out possible (a 2 hour 40 miler is better than a quick blast 20miles for an hour, while if I can get a pass for a 3+ hour 60miler even better) ... 99% of car journeys the people in the car wish thier journey was short and quicker.
Bet a part of you wished that to ride to the top of your hill was 20min longer, while the wallies going up there for fags in cars wished the shop around the corner sold them as cheaply so they didnt have to bother with a long drive. Which was made even longer by people out on the road enjoying themselves ??
In those cases it is a means to an end.... like 99% of car journeys.
Having fun or training isn't a means to an end? Getting fitter is 'an end' surely?
What if the 'ends' of the car driver is driving somewhere to have fun, then is it equal?
The roads are for everyone to use and to share, if everyone relaxed and acknowledged that someone have different speeds, motives etc and in the long run it doesn't matter then using the roads would be a more pleasant experience all round.
As such, I prefer to ride on my own or in a small group... much easier to be accommadating to great big lumps of metal that l'd rather not get to personnal with.
Then again, from the weekend, went out with the club, about 10riders? The only issues i had were after i pealed off to do my own thing, drivers thinking they had a god given right to use the road and cut me up, force me on to the verge, even though the they had access to a parking place etc.
If there is one of you far too many drivers feel they can bully you. If your in a group far too many drivers will take dangerous risks because they have to overtake.
The problem is really impatience, add in cars and then you have a real problem.
Of course you can't argue that it's more important to get to the garden centre or to the top of your hill for duty free... but it is using the road for a different reason. In those cases it is a means to an end.... like 99% of car journeys.
But is the role of roads economic, so in using a bike and wearing it out you are providing employment?
In this day and age you could argue that most car journeys are pointless as you could have goods delivered by an online retailer.
and most cycle journeys bring health benefits and thus save the country money
So here I am stuck behind a gaggle of mamils, my hardtail loaded up in the back of the motor. I'm trying to get to the trail in time for the cafe to have some cake left and they can't pull over into the nettles and wait for 3 seconds for me to get past them in my oversize estate?
That's abuse, that is.
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I don't know about the UK but Spanish road rules treat a group of riders as one vehicle...
Interesting one that. Makes a lot of sense to me. I doubt it would make sense to a lot of people out on the road though, so not sure I'd want to test it!
There is something about group riding though that seems to give the individuals a sense that their responsibilities have been waivered. Mostly, I guess, because they don't have control of the group. Any decisions have to be communicated. And often there's very little time to communicate them in. So you just (sometimes uncomfortably) go with the flow to avoid causing chaos. Which is probably a good reason to treat it as one vehicle, with one collective mind.
I'm sure more organised groups are like well oiled machines, running with exact precision. Like I said before, I think most people will do the right thing given the right experience. Which Makes it a bit of a non-issue, in the same way learner drivers are a non-issue, little more than a minor inconvenience.
Ok I'll spark in again their attitude just sucks! I'm on a narrow country lane off to Delamere come round a corner and 5 of them in front of me 2 then 3 now the lane in question has a few blind corners and is not a straight road so I sit there with the tunes on waiting for the 3 and the 2 to maybe just go to single line and left me past and at the same time would allow me to give them plenty of room.
No they stay in there 2 and 3 formation chatting away drinking from there bottles just totally ignoring the now 3 cars stuck behind them and so it goes on and on until we finally get to a junction when they spread themselves 4 wide and sit there deciding on which way there going to go FFS
And they wonder why cars will do risky moves to get past / try to get past them. ****ing ****ers.
now the lane in question has a few blind corners and is not a straight road
No they stay in there 2 and 3 formation chatting away drinking from there bottles
maybe, just maybe it wasn't safe for you to pass, as you didn't know what was round the blind corners?
blind corners
So you think it is acceptable to overtake on blind corners!
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