[Closed] HTN 4

Big respect to Jase and Andrew for putting this on every year. Lives/jobs/families/riding to attend to and all that.

Just before the mayor did her speach, the heal of her shoe sunk into the mud and with her next step it was just tights on mud. 😀

Why didn't anyone say anything to people being gobby? I last rode in 2011 and finished in the top quarter of the field (I believe that there are more fast guys nowadays?) The few riders that lapped me....ie the top 3 finishers were all really polite and extended the same courtesy to those that I passed. I've tended to find that real wannabes that finish around where I did, but had real dillusions of granduer were generally the worst manners wise. People should definitely tell these people in no uncertain terms what morons they are. It's racing round the outskirts of Manchester ffs....it's not really that important!! I realise that this comes across as a little internet tough guy, but I'm just speaking from experience. HtN was always an incredibly friendly and fun event, with none of the type of behaviour described above.

EDIT: Bones, maybe because everyone paid the same entry fee. You mention Nick Craig.....I wonder if he was shouting abuse at people holding him up? Now I wasn't there, but at a guess he was probably encouraging everyone that he passed (like he did when he passed me at warp speed in some race or other a few years back) whilst being 10 times the rider all the gobby gits can ever dream of.

It was a great day and look forward HTN 5...Please let it be on??!!

Well Nick Craig managed to win without being obnoxious 🙂

Yeah, that's where I saw a wannabe hard-man acting like a prize turd too. He'd shouldered his CXer to cross, and some poor lass who was halfway down into the stream got walloped round the head by this git's back wheel after she didn't immediately leap out of his way when he bellowed "MOVE!" at her. ****.

I was there at this bit of the race. I recall the chap as I had a chat with him in the top car park before hand. I'll try and pick him out of the pics later

Great day out in cracking weather. As for the elites every one who over took me, and there were many, were total gents. Which does suggest there was at most one or two Nobbers.

It must be sad to not enjoy an event as good as that

Just to throw in another point of view - you may not be racing, but some people are. If you're not racing that's not a problem, but please be aware of those behind you and don't block them

Be excellent to each other

Ps when are the results out I want to know how badly I did!

I guess its now a witch hunt for this bloke..WTF..why do i bother with this site

Its a Event/race FFS, things happen, its not like anyone has been murdered!!

And well done Nick Craig for not just being a great cyclist but a nice guy too!!!

Believe me, even those of us who only managed 4 laps were still racing. I was going as hard as I could and wanted to better my position in previous years. I moved over to let the fast guys past but I'm b*ggered if I'm actually going to come to a stop and stand there like an idiot letting everyone past and putting my own time back by 10 minutes.

Just to throw in another point of view - you may not be racing, but some people are. If you're not racing that's not a problem, but please be aware of those behind you and don't block them

Are the results normally the same day?

+1 for Rorschachs comment.

Becoming more relaxed about the shouting comes with more racing but the knobber you all describe will probably be shouting 'STRAVA!' Tomorrow as he nails a segment.

A knob, is a knob, is a knob, don't let it put you off.

Got to agree with that, what should people do when they are racing sit behind lapped riders until they get caught by someone they have spent an hour trying to distance, shove past or try and give some warning? If I recall its refered to as a "race" on the website, as MTB endurance competetive on BC and people have as much right to race as they do to plod round chatting. Or stand in a group of about 8 at the bottom of the run/scramble up before starting I
There's no excuse for abusing people but when you are racing sometimes you don't think what you say I always try and thank people who move but sometimes I forget because I'm trying as hard as I can to do the best I can when I pin a number on.

So if you didn't like getting a shout when I was closing fast or saying on your left or right then I'm genuinely sorry but I paid the same as you and wanted to race as per the description of the event.

I've been racing for 3 or 4 years and I find that 'on your right/left' to be much more useful to overtaker and overtakee than 'Rider'!

Are the results normally the same day?

a day or 2 for the results.

I'm not quite sure how many laps I did. Finished, walked to the car after about ~10 mins then saw the leaders going through. So whats that...4?

I've been racing for 25 and the more warning you can give the better, I've never been offended by someone giving me notice of lapping me no matter what they say as long as its not abusive.

It's one thing to shout "rider", it's quite another to yell "MOVE" and then batter a competitor with your bike as you barge past, which is what I saw happen.

I wasn't having a pop at people calling for an overtake....I used to always do that...and call a side! I'm having an internet rage at the knob abusing people! 8)

Wouldn't that count as abusive? Still a witch hunt is hardly any better is it, I'm sure he would have apologised if he could have after, he probably feels a bit of a tit for it

"I've been racing for 3 or 4 years and I find that 'on your right/left' to be much more useful to overtaker and overtakee than 'Rider'!"

If I had a pound for everytime I've been hit by someone swerving the wrong way I'd be a rich man.When the brain is starved of oxygen right/left are some what interchangable.At events with 'mixed' ability it's always safer to let the lead rider decide when and where it's safe to overtake.
(Usually not down wet slabbed rocks into a stream btw!)

i have absolutely no issue with people letting me know they're coming up behind faster than me and would like to be past, but as others have said (and this "getting caught up in the moment is NO EXCUSE) there is no need at all to be abusive.

all but 1 of the people who passed me in such circumstances today were fine, let me know they were behind so i moved out of the way as soon as i could, and all was well.

but they guy that gave johnnie and i some stick did not let us know he was behind until he was right on our wheels, and was just rude instead of shouting the usual "rider" or "on your right" or whatever.

i appreciate that plenty of people were racing for a place today. that's fine. still no need to be rude and/or abusive to other entrants in the event. simple as that.

i'm forgetting about this now.

Flippin' eck! I never said I was offended or bothered about people shouting 'rider'. I said it makes me giggle, as it is less useful than 'on your right', which then informs me which side to shift over to, in order to let them past.

When I very rarely get the opportunity to pass people I get so giddy I forget which is left and right sorry to those people I confused today 😀

a witch hunt is hardly any better is it

Quite. I couldn't identify the guy anyway, and the other rider seemed ok afterwards, pretty sure she beat me - she was definitely racing! I only offered it up as a comment because I saw others saying they saw similar things going on, and because I've never seen anyone be that rude to a lapped rider before now.

Whatever, I'm off to bed.

Lets concentrate on what a great event it was. Bollocks to the haterz, feel the love. HtN 4 Eva. Or something...

Great morning!

First race and loved it, the course, Marshalls, encouragement, everything. Course was cracking a bit of everything. I also back there's a couple cheeky @#£%% though tbh, but nevermind them.

Had a right laff, Don't have to mention mud was on another level.

Good job to the organisers!! Will be back for more in 2014!

After I'd taken the cow onesie, you were next.

Took your time 😀

I'll be back too. If I do one event next year it will be htn

I wish I had joined, I'd never even heard of it until a few weeks ago.

Someone mentioned on another thread that balloons were released at the start by a couple of riders (for Bruders338); don't suppose anyone had a pic of these?

In karting , F1 etc its part and parcel of racing. Deal with it. Your not eexpected to throw yourself off the track but move over when safe to or pick your overtake spot cleanly

Plus its hardly the Olympics so get over yourself.

The leaders really annoyed me! I think it was on my 3rd lap, going up a climb as I was dying, the 2 leaders (as it was at that point) politely asked to come past, and continued chatting to each other as though they were on a Sunday afternoon jaunt

I think everyone is aware its a race and that you will get short sharp on your left / rights etc. That's fine. The real fast guys were very polite and waited until it was safe. I only had one wannabe who didn't say anything who nearly got us both knocked off.

We parked next to (i think the girl who was hit by the CX bike) she's was in a mixture of tears and rage.

And us slow ones at the back were not taking it easy, we were trying as hard as we could, often with excruciating pain from cramps.

Name and shame. Prick needs outing.If he did it to a bloke who objected he'd act differently. Why the loss of manners?

As with any mtb race, unless you havr a shot at a podium spot why get so serious?

If there was a problem it needed dealing with on the day through the proper channels, not by some kangaroo court on a forum. This thread has turned from people saying how much they enjoyed it to something negative.
I've not been on this forum long but it seems like that's not uncommon perhaps it's not the place for me. It actually seems worse than veloriders was.

Have to disagree with you hora, why name him?! so you can hide on here and give him what for? And calling the bloke what you just did is just as bad! Things happen in races, on football or rugby pitches and things get said, get over it!

And as for not being up there with the guys/girls for a shot at the podium, i have to disagree there too, i personally go there to do my best and to better myself and to have a good go, should we all because we have no chance of winning just pootle along at these events??!! get a grip, people are competitive!!

Some of those stages on the course yesterday need attacked with a little speed and aggression to get on, i.e the water section(as mentioned in earlier post) if you can't ride it then don't get off at the bottom preventing more abled riders to ride the section, we all pay the money to get out of the ride what we want!

nikxl i have to agree with what you say! This has turned into a joke after what was a great day!

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back to the positives, please

I had over 6,500 view of my flickr photos yesterday - that's over 14% of my total view in ONE day, and I've been on flickr for seven years now.

Just in case anyone's missed it, pics are here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/n_b_t/sets/72157632778792671/

As usual, if you really like the picture, I'll be able to send out full resolution images (3000*4000, should print fine at A3 size) but will ask you to make a donation to the charity of your choice. A couple that I've chosen to support recently are these: you may wish to choose one of them, perhaps.

http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/mark-fradgleys-bullheart-jogle/

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/you-think-youre-this-tough-inspiring-charity-content

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/riders-down-mountain-rescue-fundraiser-please-help

I'm not going to ask for receipts or anything, just going to leave it to your conscience to donate what you feel the pics (and the participation in the event) are worth. Pleas tag yourselves in photos, and if you use them on facebook or something please add a comment to flickr just so I get an idea opf how far the pics are spreading

Well done to all who rode and those who put a lot of effort into making things happen smoothly.

Unsure if the [deleted] is for the thread or the inevitable (And well deserved!) hangover harry has. 😉

Lets concentrate on what a great event it was. Bollocks to the haterz, feel the love. HtN 4 Eva. Or something

+1 cheers to the organisers for making it a great event, as per usual!

Looking forward to seeing the results!

James

bloody hell Harry you;re up ealry, did you skip out of the curry / pub?

I'm not hung over.

I have a 5 year old.

Glad to see that the actions of one bellend are making the headlines.

Nikxl I agree it's a shame that it has turned in to a bit of a witch hunt.

I actually think its the fact that HTN is such a great event for everyone, and the fact it is such a chilled event, that when a very few do take it too seriously, quite rightly some do mention it.

Edit: removed paragraph, as enough has been said above.

Have to say HTN was the best race I have done in 15 yrs or so.

I'm not excusing the rude actions of a minority as I have said previously. However it seems quite sad that people are focussing on that incident and detracting from a fantastic event that over 400 people enjoyed including marshals and spectators.

Once again well done to the whole HTN team thanks to the marshals and spectators and also the sponsors.

I look forward to next year

Must enter next year