Just wondering how many folk on here bother to built their own wheels and why?
For me,
I've probably made 4 or 5 wheels so far and to me it was the last step in being able to fully maintain / build my bike for me and I was sick of dinging rims and then having to tweak to remove wobbles etc.
The wheels I have now (only 1 set shared for 2 bikes) were built about 2 years ago and have been all over the UK on my hardtail and DHing for 4 days in the Alps, and 4 days singletracking in the Alps on the Enduro. I've only had to twist a few nipples to take a ding out once.
I love the fact that I've built my wheels. They were built to be tough
CK rear hub (my 40th birthday prezzie) , ACI stainless DB spokes Mavic 729 rim
Superstar 20mm front hub, ACI stainless DB spokes Mavic 729 rim.
Two pairs, both XM819 rims so not the easiest to start on. Not sure if I'll bother again as you buy them fully built for less - and the set of Pro2/Flows from Wheelpro are far better built/tensioned than mine ever have been!
I did a few times. No need for now though as I have more wheels (pairs) than bikes.
I've built a few as I had some hubs on rims that weren't right for what I wanted, the cost of getting them built on new rims was high. Gota nipple wrench, turned my bike upside down as a jig and refered to a certain webpage. It's good that I can now build/maintain my whole bike, I have ended up fixing a few peoples wheels though but its all good practice and I get the odd bottle of wine out of it.
I do.
Mainly becasue I wanted to learn how to do it, but also so I can get cheap bits nobody wants and make wheels out of them! 🙂
Not yet... Got the rims, getting a Superstar Switch EVO rear hub and just spokes to buy.
Not hijacking, but any recommendations on websites to use for reference?
Ta!
Learnt to true mine because I couldn't rely on local shops' standard of work,full builds were the next step. Now actually working in a bike shop full time, probably been building professionally for the last 15yrs.Don't see the point in buying a fully built wheel if all I need to replace is a rim or hub.
I've built a few now. Works out at twelve wheels over the last ten years, so I couldn't call myself a frequent builder. I've probably bought more wheels in the same period. Is still good fun if you hav a spare wet afternoon, but sadly I don't get many of those now. Oh for spokd lengths look up 'spocalc.xls' on google, handy tool.
Couple of hundred over the last 8 years....not all mine!
built some, mainly because i enjoy it if i have some time on my hands. keeps me away from d.i.y. or decorating:-)
Built a couple of pairs of wheels, just for the challenge, and they have lasted better than any bought wheels. I have never been able to true wheels, and still can't, but as long as you are methodical in your build, that doesn't matter.
yep.
largely because of the satisfaction of taking a pile of bits and riding away on it.
(I have an incomplete chainmail shirt I'm working on sporadically too, I'm just a sucker for that 'make loads of teeny bits into one single thing' game)
Have been doing for a few years now (used to teach classes in wheelbuilding so needed to stay sharp!).
The first set of wheels I didn't build myself were slack and wobbly within a few rides, so that vindicates the self build option anyway!
I do - done 100s of them - did it for a shop for a while but now just for myself and for friends. For me it's just because I'm constantly swapping bits - the idea of having to take a wheel to a shop to be trued/built seems crazy to me. It's really very easy.
A year ago I'd never built one but now I've probably built 700+ but then it was my job.
Now working elsewhere and still building wheels there but nowhere near as many a week now.
It was something I wanted to learn as it was about the only task on bike that I had not done so think I've succeeded there
I've made five to date, takes me ages but I really enjoy it!
Sorry to hijack you thred a little but i am looking at getting into building my own wheels (winter project), i have got the guide from the wheelpro website and am going to be shortly looking into building the truing stand in his guide. I to have not been terribly impressed with my local shops wheel building skills and with the price i just paid for what i got i feel it is time I taught myself. Have you guys got any hints, tips, tricks or advice you can pass on to a newbie?
Cheers
Rusty
Have you guys got any hints, tips, tricks or advice you can pass on to a newbie?
Follow the guide, don't rush and don't stress - if it all goes wrong just take it all to pieces 🙂
The Wheelpro book has everything you need, just follow that, it's all there. 🙂
Very satisfying
The cost of spokes though makes it prohibitive in a lot of situations though. Especially if building road wheels as CRC dont stock long enough spokes at their rock bottom prices 🙁
I've built loads over the years - as mentioned above, I found that the wheels I'd bought went slack and wobbly after the first few rides, so I was forever tweaking.
I now don't bother with a truing stand or dishing tool and can do it by eye, with the final tweak whilst they're mounted in the frame/forks. Most important thing I found was using the correct length spokes, and that UST rims are a bastard.
I have built the wheelset that is currently on my hardtail. Some old Hope bulbs with a 721 rear/719 front combo.
The rear has lasted two downhilling trips to the Alps (on a hardtail) and loads of general xc/dh/jump stuff in the uk. Ive barely had to tweak it since building. I probably wouldnt bother letting anyone else build wheels for me, if you take your time and follow a good guide then you'll probably end up with a better wheel than what you could buy from a shop.
yup first wheel I build was crap - last wheel was good IMHO 😉
Me too, built a few sets now using the Wheelpro book/stand. Also bought a set of Hope Hoops (Pro2/Flows) and was shocked at the low tension!
sv - MemberMe too, built a few sets now using the Wheelpro book/stand. Also bought a set of Hope Hoops (Pro2/Flows) and was shocked at the low tension!
Yep, the first set I built was flow rims on hope pro II hubs, before they built them as a factory set, when I needed a new set of wheels the price of the hoops was cheaper than the component parts, so I bought them, then a couple of months later I needed to rebuild them with new spokes (used new spokes because I don't trust spokes that have been ridden on badly tensioned wheels).
built a few, mostly as I like the ability to switch rims when I knacker them.
Blingest were a set of AC hubs, DTrevs with gold alu nipples and Stans Olympics. Stupid light.
Mostly I like to be able to spec up alternate coloured nipples and funny lacing patterns without being chastised by some mechanic. 😉
I've been building my own for about 10 years, but lately I've found that the cost of the parts works out to be more than you can buy a ready made wheel, I'm more confident in a wheel I've built myself though.
barrykellett - have a look at the link below - ACI DB spokes @ 26p each.
http://www.sdeals.com/oscommerce/index.php/cPath/35_54
I've built a few, early attempts are a little ropey, but I'm getting better all the time. I quite enjoy doing it too.
I've done a couple, just two rear wheels using those £7.50 Deore hubs. I reasoned a new hub plus spokes was cheaper than a freehub body and bearings, and think they went quite well actually.
My second build was using old spokes and alloy nipples though, so I reckon I'll re-do it when I get the chance.
i have done a couple in the past but as said above i can nearly buy a fully built wheel for less than the seperate parts.
although i am reasonable good at putting them together i am never 100% sure that the tension is enough.
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barrykellett - have a look at the link below - ACI DB spokes @ 26p each.
http://www.sdeals.com/oscommerce/index.php/cPath/35_54
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Cheers man
Are the ACI spokes as good as their DT Swiss comparable?
I know Merlin use ACI on their builds unless you specify DT swiss as an upgrade so they must be ok?
I built one recently, didn't put enough tension in it, quick test ride was fine but it loosened right up on the first proper ride, proper waggly. Got LBS to sort it as I'd lost all confidence in my build. Gonna have another go soon as I got one that needs a new rim. No way would I build a brand new one tho, cheaper to buy ready built.
Barry - no idea - I've never done lab tests 🙂 BUT I've never had a problem with them on any of the many wheels I've built using them...
Just bought more last week if that's any recommendation...
Built a pair, was going to build another set as the rims on my commuter were worn down but the price of rims was more expensive than new wheels so I didn't bother. Can't see me bothering to do another set when complete wheels usually work out to be cheaper.
Iain
Clubber
I have a new commuting flip flop wheel in the pipeline which I may just hurry along now and try the ACI spokes then.
Come on PayDay
I built a wheel truing jig and dishing stick for my GCSE technology project in the early 90s and been building my own ever since. It costs more than a factory built wheel and it takes me much much longer than a pro builder but the end result is a much more evenly balanced wheel than I've even seen come out of a shop. I only build for me and close freinds due to the time element. It is however, very satisfying.
Done a few sets over the yers. Started off because I'd been knocked off by a hit and run driver who kindly destroyed my rear wheel. As an unemployed 16-year old, I had no spare cash to get them built after laying out for new rim, spokes and hub. So I used the front one as guide, and built it up. Just used the frame and brakes as a jig.
I've built all my wheels this way, and never used a proper jig except for when I worked in a bike shop for a while. I've never had a single failure or even a snapped spoke. Hardly ever have to true them either.
I'm not quick, but I enjoy it. I'd trust a set I built myself over any others.
"Mainly becasue I wanted to learn how to do it, "
Ditto - I had some dismantled wheel which I used to work through the procedure but binned this practice wheel. The second one used a new hub and spokes on a good old rim and went fairly well so now I keep it as a backup wheel.
I'd build more but it's cheaper to buy factory built and then tweak them.
I do it through neccessity, having broken a wheel with a hope hub in I felt I had no choice but to try and fix it myself
ahh,onzadogs wheels sound like they might be spot on!
i cringe at folk that boast about how fast they can build wheels. I hear theres a rep that can do one in 20 mins. what an amazing geezer he is.
i started because it seemed like the next logical thing to do. i did lace one up back in the mists of time.
also can be useful when your lbs won't order in the rims you want and the other lbs and me have fallen out over wheels!
i also had to build a wheel in the morning before driving to 24:12 this year due to a broken rim. i know i could have sorted something else out but it was a much better tale to say " got up, built a wheel, had breakfast, drove to plymouth" 😉
Somewhere around 200+ I would guess. It's a real nice part of the job; even so, I turned down a job as a professional wheel-builder as the pay was crap and I think I would have got bored of doing only that.
I've probably fixed/trued/bodged at least 3 thousand though. It's the first thing you need to fix when you're servicing a bike..
It's the first thing you need to fix when you're servicing a bike..
Not my bike. 🙂
Now built three sets, for the fun of it and also to have what I wanted at a decent price. Find it very therapeutic.
I've built 10-12 pairs over the years. It's good fun if you're in the right mood and it's very satisfying. I started off doing-it-myself when I worked in my LBS as a Saturday boy 15-odd years ago and I've not bought a complete wheel since. I've done a few pairs for family and friends too. [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Wheelbuilding-Gerd-Schraner/dp/0964983532 ]Gerd Schraner's book[/url] is good too.
About to go and build a set on 355 rims. Satisfying but not a great deal to be saved over new prices unless you get cheap bits.
Not as hard as you may suspect




