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Large 2010 Heckler with Fox Float 140s, King hubs on 819s, Maxxis Minions F&R (with tubes), SLX Chainset, front mech & brakes, SRAM X9 rear mech & shifters. Thomson stem, Raceface bars, a random Spesh seatpost and saddle. Bang on 30lb with pedals. Tis much fun!
No more than my alloy Blur LT size L with Rockshox F&R and XT spec - 28lb. But ideally more like 26-27lb for carbon Genius 20 or Remedy 9.8.
Why ever go over 30lb unless you want a mini-DHer?
Why ever go over 30lb unless you want a mini-DHer?
Money, strength, durability?
Light strong kit costs more money in reality. I chose tougher(heavier) wheels for durability in the Lakes.
I got a heavier fork as I wanted stiffness, travel, plushness but couldn't afford something new and light.
List goes on..
Previous bike
SC Blur LT 2011 medium black ano
140mm 32 Vanilla /RP23
Xtr drivetrain and brakes 3x9
Mavic Crossmax ST with tubeless Fat Alberts
Reverb dropper and Vault pedals
Ti railed/ carbon wtb seat
Thompson stem
RF Next SL bars/ ODI grips
King headset
27lbs without reverb over 28 with.
Current bike
NP mega large- monarch shock
Lyric two step forks
Pro 2s on flows
Fat Albert F and R tubeless
Reverb dropper with charge spoon standard
Superstar headset
SLX chainset with rental ring/ G2 chain device
Saint rear derailleur /changer/ xt cassette
Cheap bars and stem
XT brakes
Superstar grips
Nano pedals
Weight? Haven't a clue but boy is it fun
At a guess 32-33lb
Previous bike:
2008 Yeti 575
140mm Fox Floats
XT Groupset
Hope Hoops Pro2
Thomson stem/post
RF carbon riser bars
CB Candy pedals
2.35 Single-Ply Maxxis High Rollers F&R
27.5lbs with pedals but no dropper, occasionally lighter if I did an XC event on it and used racier tyres.
'twas a great bike 😀
Till last week
Enduro evo 2011
Hope brakes
Arch wheels
1x10 xtr
Dropper
32.5 lb with the fox 36
30.4 lb with fox 34
New enduro
Most of above but summer tyres
And haven bar
27,8 lb
Stumpy Expert Evo: Large.
Weight: Unknown
I've changed bars and stem from stock and doubt that'll have made little difference to the manus claimed weight of around 30lbs.
Rocket - 30lb dead, inc 2x9, pedals, Reverb and Flows/2.3 USTs.
This post has got me thinking. I'm looking at my bike weight at 33.4lb and one of the lighter ones at 27.1lb. The difference in frame weight between these two bikes is 1.7lb according to the respective websites, so that makes a build weight difference of 5.2lb. OK so my build is not particularly light, but even if I were to become the most anal of weight weenies, would it be possible to shave 5.2lb of weight from the wheels and other components? Feels like a big ask. Apart from the reverb (probably 0.5lb) and the wheelset (maybe a couple of hundred to 300 grams there) I really struggle to see how I could possibly make up the build weight difference even with carbon bars and other components even assuming a generous variability between different scales. I would have through the best weight saving you could make on build weights is somewhere in the region of 1.5lb to 2lb maximum.
2005 SX Trail, DHX Air, Van RC2's, Atlas AM cranks, 1x10 Sram X9, Easton Havoc wheels, Hams Dampfs run tubeless, Superstar Nano pedals, E13 LG1 trail chain device, Thomson stem, Answer 780 Pro DH bars, I-Fly saddle and SDG post comes in at 31lbs on the bathroom scales. It's put some weight on now it's got a reverb and a Charge Knife saddle.
I can drag it up most things although without a doubt I'm a bit over biked and am thinking of cha ging to a Canyon Nerve AL+ at the end of the year.
Biggest difference in my bike was the wheels and tyres. I thought my previous EN321's on NS Bikes Hubs shod with single ply High Rollers were quite light but the Easton wheels and Hans Dampfs are too just under 600g off the bike which is quite a lot. I dididn't believe it at first so weighed and reweighed both sets of wheels many times. Same result give or take a gram or two.
I know what you mean Wobbily...
To me a 5k build will get you a bling 28.5lbs trail bike, a 3k build will get you a 31lbs trail bike.
The 27lbs builds are rare, wonderful but ultimately beyond most peoples pockets and the 33lbs builds are practical bikes that reflect the fact that the kids need shoes etc.
It is the fella sat on the thing that determines what the bike can do and I have seen some guys on 5 year old bikes with ok builds fly at races... often pass me on my bling bike...(busted knee and food poisioning disclaimer).
I just love riding my bike.... with that in mind i'm off out.
A 29lbs dead Transition Bandit 29 from '12 so 130mm plus 140mm... super bling but still only as good as I am.... doh
29.7 lbs on the fishing scales ( so probably a lie), large Mojo HD 160 with coil rc4 and steel spring, lyriks, 2x9 xt, saint brakes and 203 rotors, pro2/flows, minion dhf exos, reverb. Built like this for the Alps last year, and never bothered to lighten it up when I returned, still perfectly rideable though the tyres are overkill and I should change them for something less draggy.
Built up as a 140 travel bike it's been in the high 25's on shop scales, with RP23, Revelations, Racing Ralph's, XT brakes and small rotors, Easton carbon post and narrow bars, foam grips and a Toupe saddle.
Edit: just weighed my rigid 29er single speed on the same scales - 28.5 lbs 😆
Of course it's possible to save the weight, it just depends whether you want to spend the money to do it.
Thankfully I'm in a fortunate position that I don't have to (for whatever reason) but my build, which I'm assuming you are referring to at the weight stated was well north of £8k retail.
Just as an example, my main wheels & cassette (excluding tyres and anything else) would save ~650g over the STW default standard of a set of Hope Hoops/Flows/XT 10spd cassette, and that's assuming the older, lighter Flows are used, rather than the newer ones.
That's nearly 1.5lbs alone. It soon adds up.
Hob Nob - MemberJust as an example, my main wheels & cassette (excluding tyres and anything else) would save ~650g over the STW default standard of a set of Hope Hoops/Flows/XT 10spd cassette, and that's assuming the older, lighter Flows are used, rather than the newer ones.
What wheels would that be? My Controls are about 500g lighter than my Flows but they wouldn't last long on the big bike...
Haven Carbons, albeit with some custom internals & a Hope freehub. 1400g with my bits in. The Hope freehub is a fair bit lighter than the crappy Easton one & needed some machining to make it fit anyway, so lost a bit more weight in material.
No qualms in using them hard, I'm not a hack & don't tend to smash wheels anyway. I've used them for everything, including racing DH. I'll use them for 2 weeks this summer racing the Mega & Mountain of Hell too.
Aye, that'll do it! Nice.
Large mojo Hd, with fox 36 talas, ccdb air, rockshox reverb, carbon bars, slx/xt drivetrain, xt brakes, dt ex 5.1 wheel on hope pro II hubs with hans dampf tubeless tyres.
Somewhere between 30-31 lbs
My BMC Trailfox was 27lbs but iv just added a command dropper post so that will of added a wee bit
Large 2013 Stumpy Evo, standard spec with Superstar 780 bars, 45mm stem and pedals, charge spoon seat.
31lbs.
Medium Zesty with Van R shock
Lyriks
Flows with Minions
Gravity dropper
Zee 1*10
Not sure on weight but she's a tad lardy - I'm guessing 33-34lbs
I could lose a couple of pounds by getting some Revs and putting an air shock back on but tbh, it rides so well I'd rather lug the extra weight.
Getting nr 27lb is just a question of money mostly and carefull component choice
For me I weight about 135 lb so can get away with lighter stuff on my big bike without any issues
But Normaly wheels and tyres will be the big items in terms of weight
After that its ti bolts and lots of xc stuff and see how long its lasts
Orange Five - 150 forks.
29 lbs.
27 lbs with lighter tires.
I know its not a 140 mm bike but since it my bike that rob now rides I qualify :-). Whyte t120 with slants set to 130 mm and Tricon wheels 25 lb, 67 deg head angle. I ride all the same as I did on the pitch just takes less time.
In case anyone's interested - average of all those weights posted (ignoring finger in air measurements and discounting the highest and lowest - 38lbs and 24lbs) is...
30.14 lbs
I'd like to know the price of some of the lighter builds, imagine it would be an interesting curve against weight with the law of diminishing returns.
Ultimately, handling-wise, the best place to lose weight is from wheels/tyres and other 'unsprung mass'.
Personally I like to remind myself that I start long rides with 5.5lbs of water in my camelback, and that the bike is only about 15% of the entire weight including myself...
Price? Blur LT was around £5500 at retail
Mega was around £1200 to build all in but mostly 2nd hand
I couldn't justify the Blur for my riding and was scared of breaking it too
nickhead - MemberI'd like to know the price of some of the lighter builds
However much the inaccurate scales/cost of lying to your mortal soul, is in some cases 😉
I like the scientific approach of the average, funny that it comes up so close to the magic 30.
Hah - I think Pseudo-Scientific at best (in true STW tradition)!
There was quite an even spread too: 26,27,27,27.1,27.3,27.5,27.8,28,28.3,28.5,28.5,28.6,29,29,29,29,29,29.7,
30,30,30,30,30,30,30.5,30.5,30.8,31,31,31,31,31.5,31.5,32,32,32,32,33,
33,33,33,33,33.4,35
I think mattzzzzzz has just illustrated the diminishing returns in one... but also that it's quite hard to build a bike over say 34lbs with modern components.
I will let you know,i think theres a weigh bridge around here somewhere 😐
I'm not so sure, coil shock & a set of Marzocchi forks could easily see it heading north of that.
When I weighed mine it was with a Minion/Ardent EXO tyre combo, now I'm back on a set of Butcher Control/Purgatory Control's it's dropped under 27.
i'd like to understand the scatter of the scales. As i said before, the difference between my 33lber and the lightest 26lb bike is 5.5lb when you net off the 1.5lb frame weight difference. I really am struggling to see how I could shave off 5.5lb from my build weight at any price.
XL SC blur lt 08
fox float 32
slx crankset/shifters/brakes 1x10
zee mech
reverb post /w nukeproof saddle
HD trailstar front/maxxis ignitor rear on Nukeproof generator rims/hubs
hope chain guide
nano tech pedals
last weigh in was 27.5 lbs although was some household scales at the bike shop
cost - everything new other than forks/frame £1250
i'd like to understand the scatter of the scales. As i said before, the difference between my 33lber and the lightest 26lb bike is 5.5lb when you net off the 1.5lb frame weight difference. I really am struggling to see how I could shave off 5.5lb from my build weight at any price.
Put your spec up & let us pick holes in it then!
Just weighed my pitch
I've never done this BUT working back from the 'as new' weight to it's current state, it weighs about 28lbs and it feels fantastic to ride at speed.
Seems to be some synicism with regards light bikes. It seems my Epiphany is listed as being the lightest here. However it is a light a 140mm frame as you'll find, don't think I've seen one much over 26lbs
The build is
Middleburn RS8
XO gripshift
XO rear mech
Hope minis with floating rotors
Stans Arch on DT 240s hubs
XTR cassette
DT XMC forks
XTR pedals
Easton carbon bars
WCS post
OK, here's my build. Like I said before, its not a lightweight build but 5.5lb seems tough to take out of it. Wheels are probably the biggest single item bang for my buck, but that's only worth maybe 400g without going silly flimsy?
Rear Shock: Fox Float CTD Adjust BV Kashima
Fork; RockShox Revelation RL 140mm Solo Air
Stem: Truvativ AKA Stem (60mm, 1.125, Black)
Handlebars: Kore Durox Handlebar (740x35mm, 31.8mm)
HeadsetFSA NO.57E Headset Black
Crank: X5 Crankset w/ Bashguard (175mm, 38/24t)
Brakes: Elixir 3 Brakeset 180mm
Tyres: Schwalbe Nobby Nic 29 x 2.25 (Performance) with tubes
Seatpost: RockShox Reverb
Saddle: Transition Park n Ride AM
Grips: Transition Logo Lock On
Cassette: SRAM PG 1030 Cassette (10sp, 11-36)
Wheelset: Revolution 28 - Black/Black (15mm Front, 142mm Rear)
X5 Rear Shifter (10sp, BLK, w/ Clamp)
X5 Front Shifter (2sp, Black, w/ Clamp) (taking this off at the weekend to go 1x10)
X9 Type 2 Rear Derailleur (Medium Cage, Aluminum, 10sp)
X7 High Direct Mount Front Derailleur (2x10, 38/36t)
Chain: SRAM 10spd
Pedals: Time Z-Control Platform
My SX was put in a diet big time last summer. At one point it was just over 37lbs. In terms of cost:
I ditched the Z150's for the 36's (£200 from STW)
Diabolus cranks swapped for Atlas AM cranks (£40 from STW)
Blackspire DS1 swapped for E13 LG1 trail chain device (£100 from CRC)
Azonic A Frames swapped for Superstar Nano's (£43 from Superstar)
NS Bikes hubs on EN321's swapped for Easton Havoc wheels (£365 from CRC, half price a sale)
Maxxis High Roller tyres swapped for Hans Dampfs (£60 from Bike Discount).
The pedals, cranks and chain device shed a fair bit of lard as did the forks but the wheels and tyres have made the bike feel much more lively to ride.
I'm no weight weenie, but I have some spare time, and google 🙂
Firstly, you're on a 29er, so some components will be inherently heavier-you're not comparing apples with apples
Wheelset 2350 g, according to the manufacturer. That's over a pound heavier than the pro2/flow 26 wheelset, and the alloy Havens in 29 are about 1750g -that's 1.5 pounds.
Ditch the Reverb, that's 250g saved
Higher spec brakes and lighter rotors, another 250g
Cassette, 150g by going to xt
29er forks, probably 150g heavier than the equivalent 26
Saddle is 325g could easily lose 100g without going to a racing saddle
Cranks, another 150g by going to xt
Carbon bars save 100g
Tyres, same in 26 will be 100g less.
Now that's a saving of around 4 pounds, some due to you riding a big wheeler, some due to lower spec components, but without spending anything too high end as a replacement. Probably a typical DIY build, with the exception of dropping the reverb. More to be lost too, go to 1x10, change the grips, stem, maybe headset and pedals.
Trouble is when you buy a bike it's expensive to lose weight by upgrading, it's a lot cheaper to spec it at the build time.
Wobbli. I can't see too many places to save weight there without spending crazy money.
Your wheels will be the single biggest gain.
What does the saddle weigh? That cassette will be quite portly too as will the cranks and stem. But it's not going to be huge gains there.
Stock small Covert 26 (with Reverb) 31lbs (14.06kg). Not tried to lighten it up yet. Although Surf Sales are now speccing the lighter Revolution 25 wheels on the Smalls rather than the 28s. It's probably end up with some Hope Pro2 Evos and 521s if they work out lighter because they're in the garage.
Just to add on the modern build thing my heckler bits have an average date of 09ish.... newer is lighter & as strong.
If you are serious about saving weight you need to get analytical and start a spreadsheet. List EVERYTHING from frame to saddle, grips, seat clamp, the works.
Columns:
Component ¦ Weight ¦ Option ¦ Weight ¦ Cost ¦ Saving ¦ Cost/g
It'll make it easy to spot the worst offenders and the easy or cheap savings. Start with the lowest cost/g and obvious big chunks.
Going 1x10 should save about 400g - shifter, cable, outer, mech, granny, bolts but add on weight of chain device.
Mindmap3 - to be honest i'm sot sure what the individual components weight - i'm not really looking to save any weight at all, i'm happy with it, but this thread prompted me to weigh the bike and it's now got me interested. This could be a slippery slidey slope!! Now i'm going 1x10 I will change the crank at some point for a 1x10 specific crank, but in no rush, and a nicer wheelset is on the wishlist anyway, moreso for the feel and handling rather than dead weight loss. I'm just absolutely staggered at how light some of these bikes are coming in at given the differences in the frame weights reported on the manufacturers websites. It must be a case that some manufacturers grossly overestimate their frame weights on their websites and the real delta in weight is much higher.
I rode my 25lb hardtail last night for the first time since getting my Covert. Didn't notice the weight loss apart from on one long grinding climb. In fact I missed the longer suspension travel and rear suspension moreso which slowed me down alot.
My Remedy is bang on 30.5Lbs in its current guise 😀
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Its 3x10 XT 785
XT Cassette
XTR Shifters
XTR Clutch Mech + front derailleur
Heim 3 chain tensioner
Reverb
Haven Wheels (20mm & 142x12)
Haven stem
Haven carbon bars 715mm
Elixir CR brakes 180 each end
Fox Talas 36 RLC FIT 160-120 Kashima
Spoon saddle
Crank bros Candy 3 pedals
High roller UST 60a 2.5 front
High roller LUST 2.35 rear
Tubeless
Prologo chameleon grips.
i like it lots 😀
Yep, you also need to look at the small things like foam grips vs lock on's for easy wins.
My carbon zesty is around 26lbs with 1x10 and depending on pedals/tyres.
Yep, you also need to look at the small things like foam grips vs lock on's for easy wins.
Its a goof point lots of little wins. In the end also know where to draw the line. I prefer my lock ons (well 2/3 of them sawn down for grip shift) and a few other things like probably going 34s over 32s up front and sticking with mallets over candys day to day. Fitness and technique will make more difference but thats harder to buy.