Just weighed my pitch - i knew it was lardy but ****in ell 33lb!! fat bastard!
What does yours 140/150mm full sus weigh?
What specs on your pitch?
Mine has coil 36s and coil shock so I suspect it must be at least 33lbs.
Coil Lyriks
Size large frame
reverb
pro 2 evo/flows
chunky monkey tyres tubeless
1x10 (zee mech/xt chainset/e13 xcx/xt shifter/cheap chain/slx 11-36 cassette)
Renthal fatbar lite
Xt brakes
Superstar superlight stem
Fizik tundra 2 saddle
Superstar nanos
Odi cross trainer grips
NP Mega Medium, all in - Lyrik Air DH's,Monarch Plus, Reverb, Mallets, Evo/Flows, Purgatory/The Captain tubeless, Hope race X2s, 1x10, 11-36 xt cass, Zee mech, Hope ring, e-13 c.device, RF Deus cranks, SixC carbon bars, SLR saddle. 30.5 lb
size xs?
Large SB66C, 36's, Reverb & lots of carbon. 27.1lbs
Mine is on average 140mm (160 front, 120 rear) and currently 31lbs with its lighter wheels and tyres in. Usually 33lbs. Wouldn't have it any other way tbh, I'm a weightweenie but I can't lose anything more off it without either making it less good or selling my arris down the docks.
Medium 5 spot with:-
Magura Thor forks.
XT Brakes
Reverb.
2x9 and bash xt groupset.
XT Trail pedals
Hans Dampf front and rear.
30 Lbs dead.
Large alu 575, Roval wheels, 2x10 xt mostly, tech m4s, long reverb.
28.3 Ibs. Quite happy with that!
Liteville 301 with 160mm forks, reverb and big tyres - 31.5 lbs
Large Mondraker Foxy XR: 36 Talas, RP23 CTD, 2x10 XT Groupset, Hope X2 Evo Race / floating rotors, Hope Pro II hubs / Stans Flow EX rims, Reverb, Hope H20 pedals, Hans Dampfs...
... 31.5lbs (hopefully a little less by the end of the week with tubeless). Heavier than standard build, but also a bit burlier/cheaper.
Medium Prophet, Revelations, Gravity Dropper, EX500/Hope wheels, Butcher/Purgatory tubeless tyres, slx brakes, 2x9 X7 + stinger, Time Z pedals plus a bit of mud.
30lbs on the bathroom scales.
Fsr evo comp in large.
28.5 to 29.5, depending on tyres.
Med Giant Reign, specced for the downs, about 34 lb
Stumpjumper Carbon
About 26 lbs
Large heckler rev teams, hoop xc717, xt triple ten speed, avid brakes 200/180, carbon havocs, reverb + ti sdg, hi roller 2 with tubes 29. Something lbs
Marin Wolf Ridge 2009
dual-air pikes
specialized Command Post dropper post
at least 33lb, published weight for the medium was 15kg, mines a small but with a dropper post it must be easily that.
Love it though, did 36 miles/4000ft ascent on it yesterday and a 20 mile round trip to Lee Quarry today on it.
Its just too much fun to leave at home!
PS I'm 5'2" and weigh 9 stone so comparatively its a big lump.
2011 Specialized Enduro Evo (Alu) XL, with Marzocchi 55 Ti's, Hope Pro 2's with Stans Flow rims, SLX cranks, XT shifter and XTR rear mech, Renthal Fat Bars and a Reverb dropper, weights 32 lbs with Maxxis Ardent tyres and DMR Vault pedals.
08 Pitch Pro 31lb medium.
Fairly stock except for
2x9 with bash
V8s
Fatbar lite
Thomson post
Nukeproof stem
My Covert 29 has come in at 33.4lb on the bathroom scales. I'm actually surprised at that. Not because I was expecting anything different - its pretty much bob on to the spec weight, but because it feels lighter to ride than I would have imagined a heavyweight bike to ride and had assumed the on-paper spec over-egged the weight. Having said that the build is not particularly light - pretty much bog std parts, reverb, burley wheel set. Great bike though. 3 months in and loving it - though managed to damage my cassette last ride out (no idea how I did that) so on my 25lb hardtail tomorrow, so that'll feel different i'm sure.
My ibis mojo was 24lbs when I got it first, 140mm rear, 150mm talas front, it's now got middle aged and spread to a more portly 27lbs with heavier wheels, bigger tyres and a dropper. I really still do not like pushing too much weight up a hill 🙂
Iain
around 14.5 kg with real tyres and seat post
Mojo SL-R with DT Swiss 150mm XMM's, not weighed it yet, but in the 'mate picking it up in the car park' test it scored 'b*gger me that's light!'
2013 spicy 516 (160mm): 30.8 (bathroom scales) lbs
aye, i had the same experience with my pitch.
32lb for a small 2008.
i wasn't expecting it to be light but still.
some heavy bits on it which don't really need to be so beefy.
makes me ask myself everytime why i need such a heavy bike.
My Hemlock in it's current AM-guise (Lyrik Coil 160, 150mm rocker, Hope/Flow/Minions) is definitely 33lb, maybe a bit more
Bathroom scales test, on a concrete base and weighed 3 times on it's own and then 3 times with me, and then me weighed 3 times to get the averages of each.
Had 2 at 27lbs and 1 at almost 27.5lb...happy with that, it feels light and rides light so I'm not overly fussed...
hey northwind, what do ride that's 120 back and 160 front?
is it 'meant' to be?
No accurate weights but I'll cheerfully carry my Zesty 314 for 2 hours to reach a good descent.
Does that help?
Large Zesty with a lardy Recon fork and Hope/Stans Flow wheels = 31lbs
what do ride that's 120 back and 160 front?
is it 'meant' to be?
I can field that one as I have the same iirc...Hemlock. Swappable rocker: 120 or 150
My heavily upgraded 09 zesty is 28.5 lbs and as it happens for sale !
Nicolai AC pinion 650b,150mm travel,2.35 tyres and flow ex rims.
32lbs and loadsa fun
chrs nuke. thought as much. do you ride yours liek that? does it work?
Why do we need such heavy bikes? For me its about fun and the things I am prepared to tackle on it that I wouldn't want to on my lightweight hard tail for fear of it snapping. Yes, its more of an effort to pedal up hill, but no so much that I wouldn't contemplate a whole day's cross country trek on it. And at the end of the day i've no interest in racing up hills anymore. I'm quite happy to stick it in granny gear and saunter up to the top taking as long as I like and enjoying being out and about and saving my legs for the downhill. I enjoy my lightweight hard tail, its super efficient and covers ground quickly, but on a technical rocky section i'll slow down and pick my way through it, on this i'll point it straight downhill and go for it. Its great fun. It's like having a Range Rover for general go anywhere ability, and a Lotus Elise in the garage for the occasion you fancy a quick blast.
06 enduro with dhx 4, 36 van rc2s, hope m4s, 2x9 deore drivetrain w/ bash, burgtecs and heavy wheels - 35lb
I've no problem getting it uphill and it goes down like a Dutch hooker (ahem)
Canyon Nerve AM frame with RP2 HV, 150 Revs, 2x10 XT M785, XT brakes, Superleggera hubs on Flow rims, Snakeskin Nic 2.4 tubeless, reverb, WTB Race V, 13kg (or 28.6lb ) baht pedals.
Sub 24 lbs, poss even close to 23 now.
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I like that Ellsworth...very nice
32lb ish 08 kona dawg,
rp23,
slx double n bash drivetrain and gears,
hope race m4s,
marzocchi 44 rc3ti,
hope/717s ,
mallets,
gravity dropper,
easton carbon dh bars,
chunky monkey/nobby nic
My medium 2011 Zesty 314 is bang on 30lbs.
I've never even considered weight when I changed the bars and stem, converted it to 1x10 with a chainguide and put wire bead single ply minions on it.
My (large) heckler tips the scales at a weighty 38lbs.
Apart from the frame itself the main contributing factors are probably Rev Rls, AM4/721 wheelset, steel hilo dropper, 2.5-3.0 tubes.
Medium Heckler
Goes between 31-35lb probably
Standard Frame
Tech M4's 203/183
SRAM X9/Grip Shift 2x9
KS i950 post Charge Ti Saddle
NP Warhead Bars & Easton Vice Stem
Wheels EX721's or XM719's on Hope ProII Tyres range from DP minion 2.5's to 2.25 Ardent EXO Tubeless
Fork Rev Dual Air, Fox 36 150mm or Marz 55's
Next build will be a blur lt 28-30lb though.
My Edison was bang on 29lbs when I sold it:
Bionicon Edison (M)
Bionicon DoubleAgent 160mm G2 fork
Zee rear mech
XT iSpec shifter
KS i7 dropper
Truvativ Descendant cranks (165mm)
Superstar Switch hubs on Alex Supra 30 (tubeless)
Maxxis Ikon 2.2 (R), Specialized Butcher Control (F)
Zee brakes
Damn that was a good bike - new owner is loving it too 🙂
Will be finishing the new build (Alva 180 Air in small) this week so will weigh it up but calculations based on a medium we built last month with 2.5" Minions (with X0 2x10 as opposed to my 1x10 and Ikon/Butcher tyre choice) which was dead on 32lbs, gives a 29lb weight again but on a much bigger bike.
Orange Five Strange SL (Superlight)
DT forks, wheels, shock.
Thomson/Chromag/Easton seatpost,stem,bars.
Sram Carbon cranks
SLX clutch Mech, cassette and chain
Deore brakes with HS1 rotors.
Hope headset.
DMR MAG pedals
27lbs without dropper though 🙁
Large 2010 Heckler with Fox Float 140s, King hubs on 819s, Maxxis Minions F&R (with tubes), SLX Chainset, front mech & brakes, SRAM X9 rear mech & shifters. Thomson stem, Raceface bars, a random Spesh seatpost and saddle. Bang on 30lb with pedals. Tis much fun!
No more than my alloy Blur LT size L with Rockshox F&R and XT spec - 28lb. But ideally more like 26-27lb for carbon Genius 20 or Remedy 9.8.
Why ever go over 30lb unless you want a mini-DHer?
Why ever go over 30lb unless you want a mini-DHer?
Money, strength, durability?
Light strong kit costs more money in reality. I chose tougher(heavier) wheels for durability in the Lakes.
I got a heavier fork as I wanted stiffness, travel, plushness but couldn't afford something new and light.
List goes on..
Previous bike
SC Blur LT 2011 medium black ano
140mm 32 Vanilla /RP23
Xtr drivetrain and brakes 3x9
Mavic Crossmax ST with tubeless Fat Alberts
Reverb dropper and Vault pedals
Ti railed/ carbon wtb seat
Thompson stem
RF Next SL bars/ ODI grips
King headset
27lbs without reverb over 28 with.
Current bike
NP mega large- monarch shock
Lyric two step forks
Pro 2s on flows
Fat Albert F and R tubeless
Reverb dropper with charge spoon standard
Superstar headset
SLX chainset with rental ring/ G2 chain device
Saint rear derailleur /changer/ xt cassette
Cheap bars and stem
XT brakes
Superstar grips
Nano pedals
Weight? Haven't a clue but boy is it fun
At a guess 32-33lb
Previous bike:
2008 Yeti 575
140mm Fox Floats
XT Groupset
Hope Hoops Pro2
Thomson stem/post
RF carbon riser bars
CB Candy pedals
2.35 Single-Ply Maxxis High Rollers F&R
27.5lbs with pedals but no dropper, occasionally lighter if I did an XC event on it and used racier tyres.
'twas a great bike 😀
Till last week
Enduro evo 2011
Hope brakes
Arch wheels
1x10 xtr
Dropper
32.5 lb with the fox 36
30.4 lb with fox 34
New enduro
Most of above but summer tyres
And haven bar
27,8 lb
Stumpy Expert Evo: Large.
Weight: Unknown
I've changed bars and stem from stock and doubt that'll have made little difference to the manus claimed weight of around 30lbs.
Rocket - 30lb dead, inc 2x9, pedals, Reverb and Flows/2.3 USTs.
This post has got me thinking. I'm looking at my bike weight at 33.4lb and one of the lighter ones at 27.1lb. The difference in frame weight between these two bikes is 1.7lb according to the respective websites, so that makes a build weight difference of 5.2lb. OK so my build is not particularly light, but even if I were to become the most anal of weight weenies, would it be possible to shave 5.2lb of weight from the wheels and other components? Feels like a big ask. Apart from the reverb (probably 0.5lb) and the wheelset (maybe a couple of hundred to 300 grams there) I really struggle to see how I could possibly make up the build weight difference even with carbon bars and other components even assuming a generous variability between different scales. I would have through the best weight saving you could make on build weights is somewhere in the region of 1.5lb to 2lb maximum.
2005 SX Trail, DHX Air, Van RC2's, Atlas AM cranks, 1x10 Sram X9, Easton Havoc wheels, Hams Dampfs run tubeless, Superstar Nano pedals, E13 LG1 trail chain device, Thomson stem, Answer 780 Pro DH bars, I-Fly saddle and SDG post comes in at 31lbs on the bathroom scales. It's put some weight on now it's got a reverb and a Charge Knife saddle.
I can drag it up most things although without a doubt I'm a bit over biked and am thinking of cha ging to a Canyon Nerve AL+ at the end of the year.
Biggest difference in my bike was the wheels and tyres. I thought my previous EN321's on NS Bikes Hubs shod with single ply High Rollers were quite light but the Easton wheels and Hans Dampfs are too just under 600g off the bike which is quite a lot. I dididn't believe it at first so weighed and reweighed both sets of wheels many times. Same result give or take a gram or two.
I know what you mean Wobbily...
To me a 5k build will get you a bling 28.5lbs trail bike, a 3k build will get you a 31lbs trail bike.
The 27lbs builds are rare, wonderful but ultimately beyond most peoples pockets and the 33lbs builds are practical bikes that reflect the fact that the kids need shoes etc.
It is the fella sat on the thing that determines what the bike can do and I have seen some guys on 5 year old bikes with ok builds fly at races... often pass me on my bling bike...(busted knee and food poisioning disclaimer).
I just love riding my bike.... with that in mind i'm off out.
A 29lbs dead Transition Bandit 29 from '12 so 130mm plus 140mm... super bling but still only as good as I am.... doh
29.7 lbs on the fishing scales ( so probably a lie), large Mojo HD 160 with coil rc4 and steel spring, lyriks, 2x9 xt, saint brakes and 203 rotors, pro2/flows, minion dhf exos, reverb. Built like this for the Alps last year, and never bothered to lighten it up when I returned, still perfectly rideable though the tyres are overkill and I should change them for something less draggy.
Built up as a 140 travel bike it's been in the high 25's on shop scales, with RP23, Revelations, Racing Ralph's, XT brakes and small rotors, Easton carbon post and narrow bars, foam grips and a Toupe saddle.
Edit: just weighed my rigid 29er single speed on the same scales - 28.5 lbs 😆
Of course it's possible to save the weight, it just depends whether you want to spend the money to do it.
Thankfully I'm in a fortunate position that I don't have to (for whatever reason) but my build, which I'm assuming you are referring to at the weight stated was well north of £8k retail.
Just as an example, my main wheels & cassette (excluding tyres and anything else) would save ~650g over the STW default standard of a set of Hope Hoops/Flows/XT 10spd cassette, and that's assuming the older, lighter Flows are used, rather than the newer ones.
That's nearly 1.5lbs alone. It soon adds up.
Hob Nob - MemberJust as an example, my main wheels & cassette (excluding tyres and anything else) would save ~650g over the STW default standard of a set of Hope Hoops/Flows/XT 10spd cassette, and that's assuming the older, lighter Flows are used, rather than the newer ones.
What wheels would that be? My Controls are about 500g lighter than my Flows but they wouldn't last long on the big bike...
Haven Carbons, albeit with some custom internals & a Hope freehub. 1400g with my bits in. The Hope freehub is a fair bit lighter than the crappy Easton one & needed some machining to make it fit anyway, so lost a bit more weight in material.
No qualms in using them hard, I'm not a hack & don't tend to smash wheels anyway. I've used them for everything, including racing DH. I'll use them for 2 weeks this summer racing the Mega & Mountain of Hell too.
Aye, that'll do it! Nice.
Large mojo Hd, with fox 36 talas, ccdb air, rockshox reverb, carbon bars, slx/xt drivetrain, xt brakes, dt ex 5.1 wheel on hope pro II hubs with hans dampf tubeless tyres.
Somewhere between 30-31 lbs
My BMC Trailfox was 27lbs but iv just added a command dropper post so that will of added a wee bit
Large 2013 Stumpy Evo, standard spec with Superstar 780 bars, 45mm stem and pedals, charge spoon seat.
31lbs.
Medium Zesty with Van R shock
Lyriks
Flows with Minions
Gravity dropper
Zee 1*10
Not sure on weight but she's a tad lardy - I'm guessing 33-34lbs
I could lose a couple of pounds by getting some Revs and putting an air shock back on but tbh, it rides so well I'd rather lug the extra weight.
Getting nr 27lb is just a question of money mostly and carefull component choice
For me I weight about 135 lb so can get away with lighter stuff on my big bike without any issues
But Normaly wheels and tyres will be the big items in terms of weight
After that its ti bolts and lots of xc stuff and see how long its lasts
Orange Five - 150 forks.
29 lbs.
27 lbs with lighter tires.
I know its not a 140 mm bike but since it my bike that rob now rides I qualify :-). Whyte t120 with slants set to 130 mm and Tricon wheels 25 lb, 67 deg head angle. I ride all the same as I did on the pitch just takes less time.
In case anyone's interested - average of all those weights posted (ignoring finger in air measurements and discounting the highest and lowest - 38lbs and 24lbs) is...
30.14 lbs
I'd like to know the price of some of the lighter builds, imagine it would be an interesting curve against weight with the law of diminishing returns.
Ultimately, handling-wise, the best place to lose weight is from wheels/tyres and other 'unsprung mass'.
Personally I like to remind myself that I start long rides with 5.5lbs of water in my camelback, and that the bike is only about 15% of the entire weight including myself...
Price? Blur LT was around £5500 at retail
Mega was around £1200 to build all in but mostly 2nd hand
I couldn't justify the Blur for my riding and was scared of breaking it too
nickhead - MemberI'd like to know the price of some of the lighter builds
However much the inaccurate scales/cost of lying to your mortal soul, is in some cases 😉
I like the scientific approach of the average, funny that it comes up so close to the magic 30.
Hah - I think Pseudo-Scientific at best (in true STW tradition)!
There was quite an even spread too: 26,27,27,27.1,27.3,27.5,27.8,28,28.3,28.5,28.5,28.6,29,29,29,29,29,29.7,
30,30,30,30,30,30,30.5,30.5,30.8,31,31,31,31,31.5,31.5,32,32,32,32,33,
33,33,33,33,33.4,35
I think mattzzzzzz has just illustrated the diminishing returns in one... but also that it's quite hard to build a bike over say 34lbs with modern components.
I will let you know,i think theres a weigh bridge around here somewhere 😐
I'm not so sure, coil shock & a set of Marzocchi forks could easily see it heading north of that.
When I weighed mine it was with a Minion/Ardent EXO tyre combo, now I'm back on a set of Butcher Control/Purgatory Control's it's dropped under 27.
i'd like to understand the scatter of the scales. As i said before, the difference between my 33lber and the lightest 26lb bike is 5.5lb when you net off the 1.5lb frame weight difference. I really am struggling to see how I could shave off 5.5lb from my build weight at any price.
XL SC blur lt 08
fox float 32
slx crankset/shifters/brakes 1x10
zee mech
reverb post /w nukeproof saddle
HD trailstar front/maxxis ignitor rear on Nukeproof generator rims/hubs
hope chain guide
nano tech pedals
last weigh in was 27.5 lbs although was some household scales at the bike shop
cost - everything new other than forks/frame £1250
i'd like to understand the scatter of the scales. As i said before, the difference between my 33lber and the lightest 26lb bike is 5.5lb when you net off the 1.5lb frame weight difference. I really am struggling to see how I could shave off 5.5lb from my build weight at any price.
Put your spec up & let us pick holes in it then!
Just weighed my pitch
I've never done this BUT working back from the 'as new' weight to it's current state, it weighs about 28lbs and it feels fantastic to ride at speed.
Seems to be some synicism with regards light bikes. It seems my Epiphany is listed as being the lightest here. However it is a light a 140mm frame as you'll find, don't think I've seen one much over 26lbs
The build is
Middleburn RS8
XO gripshift
XO rear mech
Hope minis with floating rotors
Stans Arch on DT 240s hubs
XTR cassette
DT XMC forks
XTR pedals
Easton carbon bars
WCS post
OK, here's my build. Like I said before, its not a lightweight build but 5.5lb seems tough to take out of it. Wheels are probably the biggest single item bang for my buck, but that's only worth maybe 400g without going silly flimsy?
Rear Shock: Fox Float CTD Adjust BV Kashima
Fork; RockShox Revelation RL 140mm Solo Air
Stem: Truvativ AKA Stem (60mm, 1.125, Black)
Handlebars: Kore Durox Handlebar (740x35mm, 31.8mm)
HeadsetFSA NO.57E Headset Black
Crank: X5 Crankset w/ Bashguard (175mm, 38/24t)
Brakes: Elixir 3 Brakeset 180mm
Tyres: Schwalbe Nobby Nic 29 x 2.25 (Performance) with tubes
Seatpost: RockShox Reverb
Saddle: Transition Park n Ride AM
Grips: Transition Logo Lock On
Cassette: SRAM PG 1030 Cassette (10sp, 11-36)
Wheelset: Revolution 28 - Black/Black (15mm Front, 142mm Rear)
X5 Rear Shifter (10sp, BLK, w/ Clamp)
X5 Front Shifter (2sp, Black, w/ Clamp) (taking this off at the weekend to go 1x10)
X9 Type 2 Rear Derailleur (Medium Cage, Aluminum, 10sp)
X7 High Direct Mount Front Derailleur (2x10, 38/36t)
Chain: SRAM 10spd
Pedals: Time Z-Control Platform