With a small amount of lusting after a new frame, which i cannot currently afford, it made me wonder..... how do my fellow offroad bicycle enthusiasts fund their new purchases?
Obviously you don't need to share too much of your financial ongoings, but i am curious as to how you cover the costs of a new whip (be it brand spanker or used).
How much 'man maths' comes into play?
Or are you in the position to swing open the vault, take a stack of fresh fifties and just throw down?!
If I don't have the money then I don't spend it. That means I'll pay by credit card for whatever additional protection that offers, and pay that off at the end of the month
Man maths.
I'll sell X and Y, which will cover 90% of the cost of Y. Buy Y (possibly using credit card if it's the end of the month - gets paid off on payday) then inevitably don't sell either X or Y, or both. Aaaaaand repeat.
Personally (and I realise I'm in a fortunate position to be able to do so) I buy stuff outright, I just can't bring myself to finance toys, I want as few DD's as possible and if I can't afford a non essential item, I won't have it.
Edit: Meant to say I've never bought a complete new bike worth more than £1k - I generally shuffle some toys around to finance bikes/toys and have ended up with a couple of bikes that would have been £2k to £3k whole by swapping parts and slowly upgrading.
I bought my most expensive bike (custom ti job) with some redundancy money.
Then I bought an ebike on interest free finance earlier this year. Was V12 from Leisure Lakes https://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/finance/ could've been all smug and yes I've got the money in savings, but it's interest free over 12 months, so why not?
Been a long time since I bought new. I picked up a very nice Colnago CX bike for £330 in the summer with 105 ! Needed another £100 spending on it.
Save up, buy it.
That's just the way I'm wired.
Life is less stressful knowing that there aren't payments for things hanging over me , which must be met regardless of illness or whatever else may crop up.
That's true for life's big essentials, but even more so for the luxuries. Not that I class a bike as anything but essential, but having a collection of really nice ones is undoubtedly a luxury.
I buy and sell on eBay a bit to fund my habit, and used to build up a pot in PayPal, but since that is gone I also have a slush fund account separate from our joint account.
Paypal pay in three and interest free offers are also useful.
The last one ? I retired and took my pension. I spaffed a little part of it in a Shand gravel bike.
(The remainder is for coke and hookers to stave off the decline)
Save up, get almost there, have child, save up, even slower than before. Nearly get there, have unexpected bill.
Clear out savings, stick it on credit or zero finance. Swear.
Saying that, i do not either buy *massively* expensive bikes or chop and change regularly.
I've only bought two brand new bikes in the last 15 years, one was to replace a 22 year old road bike, the other to replace a 10-12 year old 26" hardtail.
Everything else has been very second hand or parts bin special based round a second hand or massively discounted frame.
I've never bought a complete bike, new or used. So generally just pay for parts and frames (mostly used) when i have the money. Then I sell bits to recoup money or if things are no longer needed. However I did recently see an expensive (for me) used Ti frame that I had to get, so I used the credit card for it, which I never normally use. There will be some man maths involved, but i'm selling the frame and some bits it is replacing, which will offset some, but not all of it. Paying back the remainder in a couple of months will be no hardship so i'm OK with it.
Did make first use of C2W last year for a large box of accessories. But in the end I felt it wasn't good value, and I picked some things I didn't really need, so won't do it again.
forgot about C2W, picked up a 105 di2 groupset using that and reckon it will cost me £600 as a result. bargain.
Normally bought on credit card, at 0% for as long as possible, but with the balance in a savings account.
Spare cash only. never on credit or cards.
Either busy interest free credit or outright depending on circumstances.
I'm fortunate that I normally have a pot of money 'hanging about', usually for tax purposes. So if i see a bike I lkike, I'll dip into that, and kinda pay myself back over time.<br /><br />DrP
If I can't afford it, I don’t buy it.
Affording it may involve any or all of savings, C2W, 0% credit cards, selling on old bikes. Oh, and a £1k inheritance from my aunt which came with instructions to spend it on something I'd enjoy. It's never involved "family" money, though MrsMC may disagree.
Sometimes the man maths and mission creep have been issues.
There also needs to be some tenuous justification. I still have a Mk1 Soul as my only MTB as i only ride it a handful of times a year. I can probably afford a new HT and a FS skills compensator in the Wiggle sale but I can’t justify it to myself, let alone the wife.
There's usually a credit card offering 18+ months interest free - so usually buy on that and just set up a DD to cover each fraction of the cost to get to zero by the end.
1 - Generally buy frames, and build from there
2 - I always set a strict budget, do a spreadhseet of all my costs, and try to never go much more than a grand over it
3 - I sell all the spare bits to recoup every last penny
4 - Except those wheels, if I pick up a hardtail frame they'd be ideal
Before retirement I would just buy what I fancied. However since retirement this year I vowed to stop buying new bikes.
Unfortunately I failed and overspent my self allocated annual budget by 50%. Hopefully I can get some of that back by selling the old bike in spring.
swing open the vault, take a stack of fresh fifties and just throw down?!
Not quite but I keep a separate savings pot for these kind of purchases. I get an annual bonus which I split with my wife - we both keep 1/2 for anything we want.
If there's enough in there I can buy whatever I want :o)
I’ve bought a brand new whole bike twice in the last 15 years. Most recently using cycle to work to spread the cost. Almost every component (consumables aside) I buy from eBay, FB or the classifieds for a maximum of half what they cost new (my rule). It works for me, as I ride exactly the bikes I want without having to prioritise them over other big expenditure like family stuff and holidays. I have also kicked the serial bike swapping habit, which really helps.
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Haha. Pretty much this.
Always from bank balance rather than credit. Usually funded 2/3rds by sale of previous bike. Often just a frame swap. Usually a secondhand frame.
Pretty much settled on my current line-up though, touch wood.
If you can get long-term interest free at the moment, where the initial price doesn't seem to be inflated to compesate, then that's worth it because of inflation and the rates available to put that money elsewhere.
Being self employed and the way I was raised, if I haven’t got it I don’t spend it. I couldn’t wait to get rid of the mortgage and have nothing on finance. I’ll use 0% offers and the like, but only if there’s enough in the savings to cover the total bill before I buy it (whatever IT is).
In kind.
If it’s second hand stuff & it’s what I want, I just buy it. We have a joint household savings pot & I have my own which it comes out of.
If its something new, I always have a 0% card which I put everything on to, leave the money now actually earning some interest in savings & just pay it off when the 0% ends.
Fortunate enough that despite our savings/investments/pensions/etc, I can pretty much buy what takes my fancy when it comes to bikes & kit. Anything I sell of any value, just goes back in the same savings pot.
Usually I factor in selling existing parts...
Bought an ebike earlier this year on 0% finance and sold two bikes in parts to pay for it - paid it off within the first month.
Either from money sat in savings or save up.
I've only once used interest free finance and I had the money in my account to cover it, but only just so it made sense incase there was another bill to pay in the meantime. Life has a horrible habit of throwing spanners at me every couple of years so I always find if I've saved up for ~18months to buy a new bike, 6 months later I'll get made redundant, the boiler will blow up, the car will get written off, or I'll break my body and not be able to ride it anyway!
Getting into debt or wiping out savings for a "nice to have" hobby is foolish. Riding last (last, last, last ...... last) years model is a minor inconvenience compared to not being able to pay an actual real grown-up bill.
That and (finally) cheap bikes have caught up with the top end of the market after years of being completely neglected by manufacturers. You can now get really good FS bikes with proper suspension, carbon frames, 12speed, etc, all for ~£1800 and some genuinely excellent hardtails for <£800. So lusting after a new frame you can't afford is unnecessary for most people, it won't make you ride more, ride faster, or even more enjoyably in most cases.
I don't usually bank on selling stuff because:
I've probably worn it out if I'm spending money on an upgrade
It probably isn't worth what my man-math's says it is.
Selling old stuff for cash on facebook marketplace means there's cash for other stuff , there just so happens to be enough bike part selling cash in the pot at the moment to pay an acquaintance cash to restore the parquet floor in the hallway. So if anyones bought stuff off me recently and seen the state of the hallway on collection, thanks!
I've not bought a new bike for a long while, and when I last did it was a very cheap discounted one.
I've been mulling a new MTB frame on and off, but I don't think I'll get one this year (or probably next), and I could well end up saving a bit and looking for a used one, the MTB is no longer my priority, so long as I have a working MTB lusting after a new one isn't such a thing anymore.
I have been considering abusing the company's C2W scheme for a new Gravel or Road bike next year perhaps, but it's not something I really need (I'll probably talk myself out of it again though).
I think if I were actually buying a completely new bike then C2W would be the way I did it rather than use finance, a credit card or chip into savings, and I am generally sceptical about C2W, Very few people seem to use it to obtain a bike that they're ever going to ride to work. I might as well do the same if I want a new toy.
Depends really, I've bought on 0% finance, 0% CC, cash (either in hand or CC and pay straight off) and C2W scheme. Depends how much and where from....
I have standing orders set up at the beginning of the month. Money goes into long term savings (ISA), rainy day/holiday fund (Premium Bonds), and some into my "treats" account.
Every time I get a pay rise, it's divvyed up between these accounts, so some stays in my current account (woo-hoo!), but I also review and increase my savings etc. Overtime etc is also divvyed up in the same way.
My last big bike purchase was on the Cycle to Work scheme, and paid off over a year, but I made sure that I had the money to cover the cost if the worst came to the worst.
Most smaller purchases (Ragley Frame, various components) are made on credit cards, then paid off in full at the end of the month from the "treats" fund. If I spend money on the credit card, I'm careful to transfer the same amount out of my current account into the treats fund.
I'm careful about my cashflow, never go overdrawn, and if I know that things are going to be tight then I make a forecast and use money from the rainy day account if needed. Open banking so that I can see all my accounts in one app makes this much easier.
I used to be terrible with money, I may have gone too far the other way.
Out of savings. I hate, really hate, being in debt, so apart from the mortgage (which is a necessary evil) we don't have any. If I can't afford it, I don't but it.
Like a few others, I do use a credit card for the added protection but it's always paid off before incurring any interest.
yup, if i cant afford it i dont buy it, but...
I tend to put big purchases on 0% credit and hold the balance in savings. I'd rather gain a few quid on interest that way than pay outright, esp now that interest rates are out of the gutter.
oh and never, ever pay RRP. Discounts or sales wherever possible, last years model etc.
Last one I paid for with the remnants of a bonus after most was squandered on holidays. I bought it with a credit card with 18 months interest free for purchases though.
One before that, 8 years or so before, I bought with a chunk of a bonus too.
Cycle to work and sell the old one at the same time so with some generously applied man maths - Cash in my bank and a 12 months to pay off the new one, I am actually in profit after the transaction 😉
Savings for largest logical deposit, and 0% finance for the balance on my last bike ( its a keeper) had it 3 years
I discovered in my 20's that I do not handle debt well at all; it creates a disproportionately excessive amounts of mental stress and sleepless nights. We now only have a mortgage and no other forms of debt.
I get paid and most goes to household running and household shortish term savings, leaving behind a proportion which is broadly split into thirds for my own pocket money, some into short term savings and some into longer term savings. I don't always spend my pocket money so this also goes into my ISA at end of month.
I do use a Credit card for some purchases, but never to cover up for lack of cashflow and only for the protection; DD set up to pay in full each month (if theres a balance).
Pay for the bikes from savings. Never buy a full RRP bike, look for discounts or buy heavily discounted previous seasons bikes.
Interest free CC or 0% finance usually. I don't spend a lot anyway (single most expensive bike ever was £1699) and I wouldn't buy something i couldn't afford. But all my savings are in my offset mortgage, with LTI to pay off the capital when the time comes, so while i could in theory use some of that every £1 spent increase my mortgage interest by base + 0.99.
So right now a 0% finance deal is in essence a 6.24% discount
Said before, say again. Credit is great as long as you know how to manage/use it, and those that 'would never buy something on credit' out of principle are missing the opportunity. It's free money!! 😉
Only ever tend to buy new if I cant find nearly new or little used second hand and then only if the price is too good to miss
Try to use PayPal which my Tesco credit card is linked to and then pay it off at the end of the month. That way I'm earning points to swap for the tunnel trips so part funding holidays
Last year bought 2 used immaculate Turbo Levo's. Both were at prices too good to miss. We sold on 2 of our older ones so everyone's a winner
This year we bought one of the Specialized Enduro's that Evans were pushing out at 50%
Got a message a couple of weeks ago to see if we were interested in another Turbo Levo that was going to be sold from where we had bought last year. The price was to good to turn down. Its been delivered today and will be an upgrade for one of our daughters Levo's which will eventually be sold on.
Only ever buy what we can afford and with 4 of us biking the price, new or used, has to be good
I save up monthly into a “new bike pot”. This is just a savings account that I don’t touch until there is enough for what I want.
I've done it various ways; from zero % credit cards to savings, to using work bonuses. I've got one bike that owes some money, the other I bought outright, so when that one goes, I doubt I'll be in a rush to get another TBH, I've just wiped out my savings buying a non-leaking roof, so toys are low priority right now.
By selling stuff I buy on PSA's on eBay at a mark up.
I'm on the same page as theotherjonv. 0% credit. Why would I sink my own money when I can use someone else's for free and remain considerably more liquid?
I look at my disposable income after all essentials and make a judgement on that for the repayments.
I generally re-sell older stuff whilst its still got some residual value, but these funds generally go directly into a maintenance budget that is effectively a continuously rolling program.
