[Closed] Horses!! Seriously WTF?? Horse rant

They may be part of our history but that is not a justification for them to exist in built up areas.

Keep them in the countryside.

The roads round Hyde Park are covered in horse poo too. I agree with the OP in the city (or any concrete path) you should have to clean your horse poo. Or alternatively the horse should have to wear some kind of nappy.

Horse Nappy needs a better name. Can I suggest calling them "Hugors"?

My dog had a large crap in their field today, which I thought was fair enough

My horse was kept in a field in the centre of a town, the only way to travel to the local bridleway was along a busy road, the amount of idiots who would toot their horn (motorbikes and cars) and find it really funny was unbelievable.

if you actually do a little research you will find that horses are still in use in plenty of places

i believe most that you meet on multi use urban paths are system analysts working on updating medical records software for the NHS
the mess is just part of chewing over the problem on the way to the office

My horse was kept in a field in the centre of a town

Funny place to keep a field. Obviously some kind of horsey anachronism.

oliverd 1981 I had to look the word anachronism up 🙂

They built a motorway around the farm and it just ended up with the fields in a very built up area. O.k once out into the countryside, where of course I only allowed her to poo 😉

a horse on a public road is a danger, it has its own brain, i lost my best mate as there was a new rider lost control of the beast (be wasnt speeding/wasnt a loud bike) it turned and my mate was killed, they all want shooting and eating,

I'm aware people have chosen not to respond to your sensitive subject, but you have posted it on a public forum so you have opted for responsive comments.

So firstly no offense and I'm sorry to hear about your loss. But that's kind of a narrow minded way of looking at things?

The key word 'public', a public road is for such, be it on a horse, bike, car.

Another way of looking at your example - 'a new driver lost control of the car, it turned and my mate was killed, they all want shooting and eating."

I understand your point is fuelled by emotions of a past experience, but it's still an extremely narrow minded way of looking at the world.

Another way of looking at your example - 'a new driver lost control of the car, it turned and my mate was killed, they all want shooting and eating."

As distasteful as some may find a plate of chevaux, it has to be a damn sight tastier than a mangled vauxhall.

5 o clock tonight, a ****ing queue a mile long going 5 mph on a fast 60mph A road

guess what??

a ****ing horseBOX trying to overtake 2 horses.

resolution: introduce new law - horses and horseboxes on the road (throw in caravans too why not) between 1 and 3 in the morning ONLY

Otherwise there's a bounty on them.

fair?

@faaz - thanks for displaying exactly the sort of attitude motorists use when they are held up behind two cyclists riding side by side.

@faaz, so what was your excuse for being on the roads?

The simplest solution is simply to ban cars, would save most of the 2500 people killed each year in the UK. And to be brutal motorists on the whole have shown they can not be trusted to drive, most drivers are habitual law breakers. Most drivers drive in a manner that endangers those around them.

"Another way of looking at your example - 'a new driver lost control of the car, it turned and my mate was killed, they all want shooting and eating."

Let us get to the crux of that situation. I am purely guessing and have no data to hand to back this up, but I am sure anyone doing any research would find the people killed on roads in the UK by horses compared to drivers to involve a percentage that wouldn't even be displayed correctly on old calculators. 🙂

lol you guys are taking this a bit serious.

No one here is going to introduce a law to ban horses now are they, you cant honestly think I was serious.

Anywhoo nick3216, whoever said I promote cycling side by side? I think that's dangerous, stupid and downright rude. Happily do it when no traffic about but soon as a car appears I'll pull in.

and mrmo, im loving my habitual law breaking, helps me get from A to B quicker 🙂
that said, horses riding on the pavement isn't legal? or am I wrong? appreciate it doesn't kill 2500 people but they aren't innocent!

"horses riding on the pavement isn't legal? or am I wrong? "

From my point of view it all depends on whether or not a hot girl is riding the horse. If so... then she can ride it all over the pavement and the residue can feed the trees behind my shed that I want to grow really tall to screw over the scum bastages who stole my bike last time.

If her face looks like a horses (and sometimes that is true) then she can sod off back to the fields and I will whip her all the way there with a birch twig soaked in vingegar and salt! 🙂

have you ever seen a horse take a bag of high-powered assault rifles to a place of work or school to mow down all their associates in a psychotic killing frenzy? no. horses are generally a nice species. they just show their disdain for humans by clogging the place up with sh**.

You can easily bunnyhop a pile of horse poo. Postal workers with guns would need a decent take off ramp.

I've not come across psychotic postal workers with high velocity guns hidden in a double or atop a tricky singletrack ascent, so I can't really comment with any kind of authority there I'm afraid. But I am absolutely certain they are there. Whereas horses just drop a load anywhere. at least they are honest and non-judgemental.

edit: I'm sort of wondering if horses had hands instead of hooves and they could hold a glock 9mm, would they blow away that other horse in the other field that was being really annoying with the stapler?

Re-edit: I'm also wondering how a horse with hands for hooves would have access to a glock 9mm handgun (assuming it is not American)

these threads are puzzling.

As a mountain biker I can see where Hugor is coming form here. As a farmer myself I have lived in the countryside all my life, I have been brought up around farm animals and horses and have even ridden myself so can appreciate horses even if I don't necessarily like them. I always slow for horses when in my car or on my mountain bike and most horse riders are appreciative, courteous and friendly. Personally though I hate horse shit and I also find it unacceptable that horse riders do nothing to clear up after their steeds. OK so horse shit is by no way as offensive or harmful as dog shit. As a repsonsible dog owner I always clear up after mine or where directed, by likes of the Forestry Commission, 'flick it' out of the way. I think Horse riders, who by the way do know when here horse is taking a dump, should dismount and kick the shit to one side out of the way of other road/trail/path users. Anyone who wants it for their garden can still pick it up and take it home if they want!

Unicorns make everything better.

You can't stick an ice-cream cone on a bike and make a convincing unicorn out of it.

There - I have scientifically and conclusively proven that horses still have a place in our society. Providing they have cones on their heads.

Anywhoo nick3216, whoever said I promote cycling side by side?

@faaz - you want to be respected as an individual when you don't extend that courtesy to other road users? My point was that car drivers see som cyclists riding side by side and lump all cyclists together as "effing cyclists". They don't care that you as an individual might behave differently to the behaviour that's anoying them.

In the same manner you have quite happily lumped all horse-riders/horse box drivers together.

Do you not see the parallel?

As a mountain biker I can see where Hugor is coming form here. As a farmer myself I have lived in the countryside all my life, I have been brought up around farm animals and horses and have even ridden myself so can appreciate horses even if I don't necessarily like them. I always slow for horses when in my car or on my mountain bike and most horse riders are appreciative, courteous and friendly. Personally though I hate horse shit and I also find it unacceptable that horse riders do nothing to clear up after their steeds. OK so horse shit is by no way as offensive or harmful as dog shit. As a repsonsible dog owner I always clear up after mine or where directed, by likes of the Forestry Commission, 'flick it' out of the way. I think Horse riders, who by the way do know when here horse is taking a dump, should dismount and kick the shit to one side out of the way of other road/trail/path users. Anyone who wants it for their garden can still pick it up and take it home if they want!

Thanks.

It seems that there are enough others who at least partially share my views that it was worthy of a discussion. I learnt plenty from those who disagree with me even though I haven't changed my opinion.

OP and his bigotted supporters

try and persuade you to move from your ignorant, blinkered stance.

stop whinging and get a life.

humans can consistently demonstrate such blinkered stupidity

You are a total ass

I think you guys need to think about what you expect when you visit an internet forum.
Just because you disagree with somebodies opinion doesn't give you the right to throw around insults.
They don't really add anything to the discussion other than degenerating it into childish name calling excercise.
I would sugggest that most of those people are not so brave in the real world when their anonymous username and keyboard aren't there to protect them.
Grow up people and learn how to have a friendly banter without the agro.
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I think you guys need to think about what you expect when you visit an internet forum.

I expect the internet equivalent of the Daily Mail and you didn't disappoint. You come on here stereotyping an entire class of people from a clear position of ignorance.

I use the term ignorant here, in it's meaning of "unknowledgeable or uneducated", which I think we can agree, when it comes to horses and you, quite clearly applies.

You pretend to be seeking enlightenment of your ignorance when what you were actually after was justification for your prejudices from other people who also clearly have an opinion on horses but, like yourself, actually have cock all experience. Frankly I've never heard such sanctimonious shit from those who wouldn't know one end of a horses from another. For instance look at all the pseudo risk-assessment on the dangers of horses to their riders and other people that is being floated about ostensibly to stop people from hurting themselves, but is actually being spouted to stop other people from doing things the risk assessor doesn't like. It comes across as selfish not selfless.

Let's look at one. "Ooh horse shit is dangerous for motorcyclists". No it isn't. If I see a fresh pile of horseshit on the road it means there might be a neddy in the area so I'll ease of the throttle - V-twins being rather raucous - until I'm past. At least horseshit is visible. If the writer of that piece of bollocks really was concerned about motorcyclists instead of just looking for some stupid justification to hate horses he wouldn't be making stupid remarks about non-risk from horseshit and he'd be doing something positive about the real risk from diesel spills.

As for anonymous internet bravery, I'll happily call you ignorant to your face. But here's an offer. I can try to cure you of your ignorance. Of horses at least. If you are prepared to get yourself a BHS approved riding hat and some insurance I'll give you an hour on top of this neddy. If you're as competent as you think you are you should be up through the gears and onto the highways and bridleways for a gallop well within that time. And I know where there's a five bar gate for you to have a crack at. You have got the balls for that haven't you, seeing as you're so brave behind [i]your[/i] keyboard?

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If you still don't get it, then fairs fair, but at least you'd be speaking from a position of (limited) experience.

They don't really add anything to the discussion

Please don't even pretend you wanted a discussion.

Woa there buddy! Lovely well put together argument and all, but to aim it at the OP is a little harsh, I feel. All he did was express an opinion that horses crapping on town pavements is a bit minging, shared by some other reasonable posters. His complaint most recently was about some of the language and vitriol aimed at him just for daring to express an opinion that differs from the perceived norm, and I think that that is a fair comment.

Oh handbags 🙂

Think there are a fair few riders that need to think more about the results of their actions. The amount of times I've seen cyclists riding like knobs among livestock and people is a order of magnitude more than horse riders acting the same. Yes there are a lot more cyclists than horse riders, but still there are a lot of unthinking people out there that if they did some simple things that would make life a lot easier allround.

Don't slam on your brakes at the last moment skidding and/or squealing away even thou you have had plenty of time to brake beforehand.

Talk to the rider and the horse it doesn't matter if the rider has seen/heard you and acknowledged you, has the horse done the same? As far as the horse is concerned you are an an unusual speeding object as you are not person shaped and you are moving at a speed thats associated with being a predator and not a people shaped object who can be trusted.

It doesn't talk much brain power to see by their body language if they are aware of you and are relaxed about you being near them look at their ears.

Imagine you are a person on their scale how much personal space would you need? Think about all the times someone has got inside your zone and how uneasy you feel about it.

As for the crap debate they were stepping through our crap (as were we) until 100 odd years ago so don't get too hett up about it. It's easy enough to clean off, lots easier than sheep crap and you are not likely to catch too much off it unlike dog eggs.

We are all on a crowded island, learn to get on life is so much easier if you do.

blimey, this is a big un - so here goes:

as a new forest rider (road and mtb) and driver:

loose horses are either ****in' stoopid or, maybe more likely, cunning and manipulative masterminds. the NF is a bloody big open space with a network of mostly minor roads running through it. seems that a majority of the 'osses spend all their time within about 10 feet of the roads - presumably connected to the number of passing tourist filth 😉 who like to stop bang in the middle of the minor road to take pics, feed the horsies and irritate the shit out of anyone who's actually trying to go somewhere.

Either just by learning to expect food or maybe for cleverly "trapping" the tourists, these animals will almost always walk out onto the road as a car (or bike) is approaching. You hardly ever see them on the road when no cars are about; just very close to it, in waiting

horses with riders on, bizarrely, spend even more of their time on the roads. Not just when getting from a town/village to open green bits, but even once they're there. I suspect this is due to their riders being morons (good lord no, not all, just the ones that do this)

As an mtb rider horses don't bother me at all since I tend to be more than ten feet from the road

As a resident: I'm very happy to drive slowly, wait when necessary and letch at the riders whenever practicable.
Our village school has a footpath that runs about 200yards to the school gate from the road. In a given school day maybe 200 kids plus parents walk uop and down this path. really quite often there's a big pile of fresh shite - so large that you can't get round on the narrow path, especially if you're pushing a pram etc or if you're a six yr old.

Result is kack (lovely, natural rural kack, I admit) trampled all over the path and on into the school. Rider of the horse(s) responsible is clearly a selfish inconsiderate tossrag who, sadly, I've never met.

(as a road cyclist, I wish I merited even half the consideration, patience and space that any horse, donkey, pig, baby robin or wildebeest does 🙁 )

Could be worse, Scaredey.

Could be cahs. 🙁