[Closed] high volume shock single pivot? commencal fox?

I don't know about the Cannondale but my Commencal was briefly ruined when I tried a high volume air can. So I'd be surprised if the one you've found is high volume. You can tell by looking (post the pictures). No idea about that Manitou.

I bought a 2nd hand Float R shock that fitted and sent it off to Loco for a full service & retune, its often cheaper and you end up with new internals and a shock matched to you and your bike.

I have a high volume can on a Transition Covert and don't rate it for my weight (13 stone) and aggressive riding. I've just fitted a volume spacer and it feels better.

Yes Prophets require a low volume (or std) air can, the air can be replaced for around £30 (when I last looked), though the Volume spacer is probably cheaper & will perform the same function
What shock are you currently running?
If a fox, I'd spend the money on getting it serviced/tuned.
Otherwise as per Scruff, I'd say your better of spending your cash on a 2nd hand fox than a poor alternative like the Manitou

Cheers guys, so I'm sensing that I should be ok with a shock from a commencal meta... My concerns mainly came from seeing this http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_tech_center/owners_manuals/07/eng/rear_shocks/float_rp2.htm the text next to diagram says high volume standard air sleeve... A bit confusing, to opposing terms in one single definition???

Just looked at my rp23 (low volume) & it only has a single step in the air can, unlike that one linked to, it maybe a simple way to identify the different cans if it's not marked (can anyone confirm there high volume can has 2 steps?).
I think you maybe reading too much into the manual, yes an rp2 would be available with a HV can, but the bike manufacturers could still order them with LV cans to suit there suspension.
When ever I bought shocks the supplier has always asked what linkage it for, & supplied the appropriate can. I was aware, so checked when ordering.

I'm fairly certain you can use a high volume sleeve with any Fox Float shock, so it makes no difference what model it is. If it came on a Commencal I'd be surprised if it had a high volume can, but you never know. Can't you just ask whoever you're buying it from?

Don't get a high volume can, they allow you to use the last 5 mm of travel which air shocks often are never able to use at the expense of worsening the already crap mid stroke support that most air shocks have.

In other words they blow through their travel, just make sure the compression and rebound tune is right for your bike.

Cheers for your help guys... I'm guessing the tune will be wrong for my bike but I don't have the money at the moment for a service so hopefully the suspension characteristics wont be too different. Does the off setting on an Rp2 have any pro pedal? And does the on mode amount to a lock out?

The propedal mode is an anti-pedal bob setting not a lock out, how firm this is will depend on the factory setting. I've no experience of an Rp2, so can't say further. The other setting is just fully off, no propedal at all

What's wrong with the current shock?

Serviceing that will probably be better than buying a 2nd hand shock that probably also needs a service and is tunred incroectly?

As for High volume/standard cans, the hig vlume has a step about halfway up the can. Some single pivots have them others don't. I think the cannondale didn't so adding one will make the suspension use too much travel causing it to bottom out easily and blow through its travel quickly.

Serviceing that will probably be better than buying a 2nd hand shock that probably also needs a service and is tunred incroectly?

I kinda struggle with this, as I had the Manitou 3 way on my prophet originally when I bought it 2nd hand. I thought it absolute pants, & spent £80 to get it serviced... On return it was still pants and not even worth £40 2nd hand. I wish id spent that money on a fox in the first place...

Serviceing that will probably be better than buying a 2nd hand shock that probably also needs a service and is tunred incroectly?

I've got a 2012 RP2 and the 'off' setting is fully off, the 'on' setting is a bit of pro pedal anti-bob. No lockout.

I kinda struggle with this, as I had the Manitou 3 way on my prophet originally when I bought it 2nd hand. I thought it absolute pants, & spent £80 to get it serviced... On return it was still pants and not even worth £40 2nd hand. I wish id spent that money on a fox in the first place...

Possibly true, but would it be worth spending £100 on a fox which needed a service and wasn't tuned to the bike so was just as rubbish?

As I say I'm struggling with what's the right or wrong option for him, I can only relate my experience. It comes down to what his current shock is (not been mentioned), if it was a fox I'd go down the servicing/tuning route too, if not I'd be looking at the RP2...assuming it's LV shock in the 1st place

Ok cheers... The guy I bought it off (ebay) had bought a new shock for it... But having got it I see he has bought a shock with the wrong stroke 56 not 50. He's apparently had it spec'd and fitted by a cannondale dealer... I doubt they would be that silly. So I basically need a new shock... But have limited funds... Ideally I want lockout as I bought the bike for enduros... Want the lockout for riding up... Maybe I should hold out for and Rp23...

I think the 200*50 and 200*57 shocks are the same appart from the bump stop, in which case a service plus a few quid for the bump stop would sort it (possibly) and you could make sure it was tuned for your weight/bike while it was there.

Alternatively let all the air out of the shock and cycle it a few times to make sure it doesn't make the tyre hit the seatube (most likely as it's longer stroke but the same length shock) or the swingarm hit the frame and just go ride.

As for needing a lockout, I've never missed it on my Pitch, but that's an FSR so should pedal OK regardless. But it probably depends on how firm the propedal is set, again that's something a service could sort out as you could ask for the propedal to be made really firm, but I'd ride it first if possible to see if you need it, the propedal might make a good setting for XC/singletrack but if it's too firm then you've just got a heavy hardtail on anything but a downhill track.

The shock that came with the bike is a manitou swinger x3... That has 3 spv settings

I know people are saying fox is better but I'm starting to think the cheaper option is to get the manitou that come with it shortened and tuned as thisisnotapipe has mentioned. I really don't want to leave it too long though as I don't really want a 155mm travel bike... I do want something with very strong pro pedal option as Im not super fit and want to conserve my energy at races to the downs...

The manitou swinger x3 is actually a decent shock. I preferred mine to the fox rp23 on my 2005/06 Orange 5.

As someone said above, let the air out and fully compresss the suspension to see if you get any interference anywhere, and if not just run it as it is.

I know people are saying fox is better but I'm starting to think the cheaper option is to get the manitou that come with it shortened and tuned as thisisnotapipe has mentioned. I really don't want to leave it too long though as I don't really want a 155mm travel bike... I do want something with very strong pro pedal option as Im not super fit and want to conserve my energy at races to the downs...

Just run it with less sag (i.e. slightly more air) and don't think of it as a 155mm bike, think of it as the same 140mm bike as before, with a 15mm get out of jail free card.

As for not being super fit and needing the propedal as a result, putting more miles in will have more of an impact than shock tune which IME only has a minimal impact on climbing speed/effort. I regularly forget to turn the propedal on for climbs, but notice it really quickly if I forget to turn it off for the downhills. And that's me talking as an unfit biffer!